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Sunday, February 11, 2018

I imagine you, like I, have noticed that recently, the leaders of both the Republican and Democratic parties are taking positions they used to oppose, with no apparent sense of irony... Back in 2013, the Democrats accused Republicans of threatening a government shutdown to reargue a non-budget issue (Obamacare)... In 2018, the parties flipped the script. The Republicans accused the Democrats of shutting down the government to force discussion on a non-budget issue (DACA)... This sudden role reversal occurs regularly.. Republicans took up the principled stance the Democrats once held on the government shutdown, we saw a mass migration of Democrats to the Republican party... That massive change was similar to the millions of Republicans switching parties last December when the Democrats became deficit-hawks, previously a Republican priority, arguing that the tax plan would be fiscally irresponsible, exploding to the deficit.

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Humans are tribal by nature. And, it turns out, tribe trumps principles in terms of defining our identity, and political parties feed that tribal nature.

Recent work by Jay Van Bavel, a psychology professor at NYU (with colleague Andrea Pereira), shows that people use their political affiliation to define themselves and that political party supersedes principles in defining our identity.

This politics-over-principle might not be such a problem, except we will do mental backflips to protect our identity.

In other words, once we incorporate Democrat or Republican into our identity, "The tribal nature of the human mind leads people to value party dogma over truth ... . This model describes why party affiliation exerts such a strong impact on people's judgments that they often abandon cherished values and beliefs in favor of party loyalty."

Van Bavel's and Pereria's findings explain how, as the parties shift their principles, voters follow along.

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People are sheep -- and the preponderance of this problem are self-identified conservatives and Republicans who mostly value authoritarian thinking and loyalty that too easily devolves into right-wing group-think ... as compared to self-identified liberals and Democrats who mostly value the individual.

#1 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-02-11 08:41 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Oh lovely. Nullifidian is out and about. LMFAO

#2 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-02-11 08:56 AM | Reply

Two Santa Clause theory:

"The theory states that in democratic elections, if Democrats appeal to voters by proposing programs to help people, then the Republicans cannot gain broader appeal by proposing less spending. The first "Santa Claus" of the theory title refers to the Democrats who promises programs to help the disadvantaged. The "Two Santa Claus Theory" recommends that the Republicans must assume the role of a second Santa Claus by not arguing to cut spending but by offering the option of cutting taxes."

...and then because of deficits argue that we must cut programs like SS, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, unemployment, etc.

We've seen this movie before, it's their standard play list. They've been playing this game for decades, it's about time more Americans recognized it.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-11 08:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

They just passed the tax cuts and hey, JeffJ is already out there preaching about us cutting spending because we're going broke. Kind of makes you wonder how JeffJ earns his living, I've wondered out loud before and I do so again. Too soon Jeff. You're just too predictable. I hope they pay you well though, I'd hate to see anyone sell their soul too cheap.
I'll go out on a limb here, if I had to say some posters here were paid, it would be JeffJ and Et Al. Both are too intelligent to actually believe the stands on issues they take. Both are entirely predictable. I'd honestly be surprised if they weren't getting something from defending the indefensible positions they do.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-11 09:02 AM | Reply

POSTED BY PINCHALOAF AT 2018-02-11 08:41 AM | REPLY | FLAGGED FUNNY BY NULLIFIDIAN

Liberals and Democrats tend to over-think things, while conservatives and Republicans tend to demand that people fall in line ...

"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."
-- Will Rogers

I fully admit that I'm using oversimplified generalizations, but there is plenty of truth behind them.

But if I can figure this all out, anyone can.

#5 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-02-11 09:05 AM | Reply

-- if I had to say some posters here were paid, it would be JeffJ and Et Al. Both are too intelligent to actually believe the stands on issues they take.

Yeah, someone has to be paid to disagree with an intellectual titan like yourself.

#6 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-02-11 09:05 AM | Reply

I will say though, no one pays Nulli. He makes his idiotic comments purely for free. Quite simply, he opposes anything even slightly liberal and everything is a conspiracy. Quite simply, he's simple. Now, "get off my lawn."

#7 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-11 09:08 AM | Reply

Democrats passed SS, Medicare, Medicaid, Food assistance, heating oil assistance, ACA, virtually everything that ever helped people in this nation. Republicans passed tax cuts. Smerconish misses the truth in his efforts to play both parties are the same. It's utter b.s. Let's be honest, why are so many working class and even poor Americans voting Republican? Citizens United which allows millions of dollars to influence voters, Fox News, Right wing hate radio. If there were an even playing field, which the Republicans have managed to prevent, Democrats would dominate as they do in virtually all modern industrialized nations. Our nation is the outlier, we are the one modern nation that refuses to provide universal healthcare, education, basic needs to our population. Why? So that we can give tax cuts to rich folks. Huge tax cuts that make no sense. That demonstrate an actual hatred for the poor.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-11 09:51 AM | Reply

Smerconish misses the truth in his efforts to play both parties are the same. It's utter b.s.

... tax cuts to rich folks. Huge tax cuts that make no sense.

If you listened to Smerconish's radio show, you'd find yourself agreeing with him practically most of the time -- and the GOP Tax Cuts is just one example, he didn't think there was any need for them.

#9 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-02-11 11:24 AM | Reply

- Smerconish misses the truth in his efforts to play both parties are the same. It's utter b.s.

This. All day long.

Politics is about what is doable given certain constraints... and any third party who became large enough to matter would have to play by the same rules.

But of the two parties, one, although nowhere near perfect, has had much better policies and candidates nationally for America for over half a century at least.

So whining about how the parties are the same and their supporters are the same "partisan hacks" is ludicrous.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-11 12:47 PM | Reply

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If nothing else, it sure gets a rise out of a very predictable group of people.

I wonder why the partisan hacks on the right never express the same level of crying you always do? Seriously....I don't know.

Why so sensitive to that?

#11 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-11 01:03 PM | Reply

Predictably, you post caricature, not argument.

Perhaps because you have none? Why is that? I don't know.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-11 01:11 PM | Reply

"I wonder why the partisan hacks on the right never express the same level of crying you always do? Seriously....I don't know. "

Oh, but they do. Just find any thread about civil war statues, gay wedding cakes, or how mean that lady judge was to Larry Nasser.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-11 01:15 PM | Reply

I wonder why the partisan hacks on the right never express the same level of crying you always do?

They do. At a much higher frequency.

You just need to visit Rightwingers news sites and read what those morons complaining about.

The difference between this site and those is how angry conservative posters are. You can feel the rage.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-02-11 01:17 PM | Reply

Predictably, corky won't answer the question. Just juvenile retorts, fancy new words he just learned like "caricature".

LOL.....his sensitivity is obvious but it's not clear why.

Clown, I don't visit those sites. Not that you believe me.

But your time spent on those sites might explain why you such an obsessive race baiter all the time.

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-11 01:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"such an obsessive race baiter"

Look who's crying.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-11 01:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Snoofy, go sniff somewhere else. You managed to miss the point already.

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-11 01:52 PM | Reply

Victim much?

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-11 02:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#15

So, now we do know. You have no argument to what was said.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-11 06:42 PM | Reply

Trump plan will drop GOP's traditional goal of balancing budget within 10 years

www.drudge.com

I don't expect any Trump voter or really any rank-and-file Republican to stand on principle or have any sense of moral compass and integrity after bitching about "Obama spending" for 8 years.

Pathetic

#20 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-02-12 07:16 AM | Reply

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