Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Saturday, February 10, 2018

In a word, the Grassley-Graham memo is shocking. Yet, the press barely notices. Rest assured: If a Republican administration had used unverifiable hearsay from a patently suspect agent of the Republican presidential candidate to gull the FISA court into granting a warrant to spy on an associate of the Democratic nominee's campaign, it would be covered as the greatest political scandal in a half-century. Instead, it was the other way around. The Grassley-Graham memo corroborates the claims in the Nunes memo:

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As much as the MSM ignores it, this story isn't going away.

#1 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-10 11:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@ JeffJ

You've always said you're not a Trumper, yet you buy into the garbage Nunes memo?

Why are you putting the Republican Party over these blatant antithetical machinations by Nunes, Trump, Grassley, and Graham? Do you really hate Obama and Hillary (and Democrats) that much?

C'mon now, have some integrity.

#2 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-02-10 11:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

www.drudge.com

#3 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-02-10 11:31 AM | Reply

#2 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF

It is what it is. Graham and Grassley have far more credibility than Nunes and their memo is far more explicit than Nunes' memo.

My view of this issue are fluid - it changes as more facts come out.

If the FBI was acting as an agent of the Democratic Party and the Clinton Campaign against Team Trump that is a YUUUUUGE problem.

#4 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-10 11:34 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

I deleted and undeleted this post.

This kind of link is a challenge for me because it's a lie. Why allow a bunch of dishonest spin from Andrew McCarthy of National Review to sit on here all day? The New York Times news division isn't creating a collusion "narrative." It's relating the facts it gathers as they come in.

McCarthy, on the other hand, is creating a "narrative." His job is to push a right wing agenda that deflects from those facts.

#6 | Posted by rcade at 2018-01-04 02:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

#5 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-02-10 11:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Laura,

You are no Hans.

Take the time to read the piece tied to this thread and then comment intelligently or STFU.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-10 11:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Reflexively slaughtering the source is what intellectually lazy (and tribal) people do.

#7 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-10 11:37 AM | Reply

You are no Hans.

Take the time to read the piece tied to this thread and then comment intelligently or STFU.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-10 11:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

Don't like the truth I take it???

#8 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-02-10 11:38 AM | Reply

For the sake of clarity: This memo doesn't prove anything, but what it reveals is awfully disturbing and warrants serious investigation IMO.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-10 11:39 AM | Reply

Your "truth" is to knee-jerk slander anyone with whom you disagree.

It's not even good trolling. I'd take what you have to say much more seriously if you engaged in honest, good-faith discussion. It's something you are capable of as it's something you frequently do. But not on this thread so far.

#10 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-10 11:41 AM | Reply

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If the FBI was acting as an agent of the Democratic Party and the Clinton Campaign against Team Trump that is a YUUUUUGE problem.

#4 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

If the moon is made of blue cheese NASA has allot of 'splaining to do.

You just come across as serial-hating on everything that has the names "Obama" and "Hillary".

#11 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-02-10 11:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Carter Page, himself, has corroborated information that Steele gathered.

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-02-10 11:44 AM | Reply

How come it's only right winged kook sites that are reporting this??? That should tell you something Jeff.

#13 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-02-10 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

As much as the MSM ignores it, this story isn't going away.

#1 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018

1) No one's ignoring it.

2) Paying attention to it reveals it as a POS.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-10 12:00 PM | Reply

#13

NRO is not a RW kook site.

#15 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-10 12:07 PM | Reply

The FISA count knows by now if it was misled. Either senior folks in the FBI or Nunes and Trump should be in jail.
Let's ask FISA to pick the group to go to jail.

#16 | Posted by bored at 2018-02-10 02:06 PM | Reply

Because if the FISA court was not misled, it is Nunes and Trump trying to weaponize the admin.

#17 | Posted by bored at 2018-02-10 02:08 PM | Reply

Let's up the stakes and see deferment Donnie run for the hills.

#18 | Posted by bored at 2018-02-10 02:10 PM | Reply

-- deferment Donnie

Not a phrase Joseph Biden will use if he runs for president.

#19 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-02-10 02:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This is just a regurgitation of the same nonsensical claim that the Steele dossier was the source of info for the FISA warrants.

That idea has been blown to hell multiple times for multiple reasons.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2018-02-10 03:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

This memo doesn't prove anything, but what it reveals is awfully disturbing and warrants serious investigation IMO.

No, it doesn't.

This is just more lukewarm support of a GOP effort to slander anyone or anything necessary to save their DOTUS.

It's sad.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2018-02-10 03:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"For the sake of clarity: This memo doesn't prove anything, but what it reveals is awfully disturbing and warrants serious investigation IMO."

What's disturbing about us spying on a guy doing Putin's bidding?

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-10 04:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Meanwhile Trump is not allowing the memo prepared by the Democrats to be released. What's he afraid of? Then, we hear about Grassley and Graham preparing a third memo, let's wait until the Democrats from the Intel Committee get to present their side of the story, til then I ain't buying nothing coming out of the Republican Party.

#23 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-10 04:40 PM | Reply

Evan McMullin‏ @Evan_McMullin

Evan McMullin Retweeted Donald J. Trump
This is yet another situation that is the opposite of what Trump claims it to be. He declassified a selected bit of information and used it to mislead the public and protect himself. Now he's unwilling to declassify information that would reveal the truth and put himself at risk.

Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump

The Democrats sent a very political and long response memo which they knew, because of sources and methods (and more), would have to be heavily redacted, whereupon they would blame the White House for lack of transparency. Told them to re-do and send back in proper form!

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-10 05:05 PM | Reply

Evan McMullin‏ @Evan_McMullin

Trump's loyalists in Congress have chosen to attack the Trump-Russia investigations with a Putinesque disinformation campaign. The last things they're going to allow are minority memos and actual transparency. If that's what you want, vote those bums out in 2018.

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-10 05:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The last things they're going to allow are minority memos and actual transparency. If that's what you want, vote those bums out in 2018.

#25 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

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"Actual transparency" from the party that passed a healthcare bill without actually reading it? You need to pass it to know what's in it? That type of actual transparency? Sorry, Obama's actual legacy has forever ruined any Dem claim that are the party of transparency. The Dem crying over the Nunes memo threatening national security if it were released so it must remain hidden puts another nail into that too. Do I need to mention the DNC refusing to turn over their servers to the FBI, rigging the election for Hillary, DWS threatening capital police over returning the computers of her criminal IT staff or Hillary destroying Blackberries with hammers and bleach bitting emails under subpoena? You libbies are just getting funnier by the day claiming any sort of high ground on transparency.

#26 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-02-10 07:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

More like Trump's loyalists in Congress have chosen to ignore treason. Trump has already demonstrated that he is under the control of Putin, not patriotic American should be able to ignore that fact. This is The worst case of treason committed by a President in history and that is saying something when you consider the actions of every Republican President since Nixon. And to think these flag waving fools want to have a parade for Trump, they should then be waving Russian flags. Have your damned parade in Moscow.

#27 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-10 07:26 PM | Reply

"This country is on a path to bankruptcy."

Go F yourself stupid, your president and the Republican Party are, right now, treasonous, covering up for a very compromised President, and you know it. You're as bad as they are. Move to Russia.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-10 07:29 PM | Reply

I pasted the wrong quote on #28, sorry Jeff.

Should have been:
"Sorry, Obama's actual legacy has forever ruined any Dem claim that are the party of transparency."

Not sorry REX_BUYT, virtually your entire post was written by liars at Fox News. You claims aren't even true but your attempt to use them to defend Dotard was seriously pathetic.

#29 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-10 07:35 PM | Reply

You claims aren't even true but your attempt to use them to defend Dotard was seriously pathetic.

#29 | POSTED BY DANNI

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Exactly which of these claims is not true:

1.) The Dem crying over the Nunes memo threatening national security if it were released so it must remain hidden puts another nail into that too., source www.nbcnews.com

2.) Do I need to mention the DNC refusing to turn over their servers to the FBI source www.rollcall.com

3.) rigging the election for Hillary, source thehill.com

4.)DWS threatening capital police over returning the computers of her criminal IT staff or source www.dailymail.co.uk

5.) Hillary destroying Blackberries with hammers and bleach bitting emails under subpoena? source www.businessinsider.com and source abcnews.go.com

Please enlighten me as none of my links are from Fox News and they are all 100% true.

#30 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-02-10 08:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Please enlighten me as none of my links are from Fox News and they are all 100% true.

#30 | POSTED BY REX_BUYT

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No response? Typical.

#31 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-02-10 09:05 PM | Reply

"If a Republican administration had used unverifiable hearsay from a patently suspect agent of the Republican presidential candidate to gull the FISA court..."

What a croc.

A) The author has to pretend the Steele Dossier was the only part of the FISA request.
B) The author has to pretend a longtime reliable agent is "patently suspect". The guy who brought it all to the FBI's attention.
C) The defense still reduces to You shouldn't have been looking when you found all that evidence.

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-02-10 09:15 PM | Reply

"from the party that passed a healthcare bill without actually reading it? "

Sorry, but Republicans lost that talking point, again, two nights ago. What was it this time...700 unread pages?

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-02-10 09:16 PM | Reply

A) The author has to pretend the Steele Dossier was the only part of the FISA request.

Per McCabe, the FISA warrant would not have been issued without it. Per this new memo, it shows that it formed the overwhelming bulk of the evidence along with the circular confirmation of Steele's article that appeared on Yahoo.

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B) The author has to pretend a longtime reliable agent is "patently suspect". The guy who brought it all to the FBI's attention.

The longtime reliable agent didn't even believe his own report (as seen in the British court transcripts) and was caught directly lying to the FBI when he went on the new circuit. Despite this, along with the numerous errors in the report, the FBI still presented this guy as credible in FISA court docs despite Comey himself testifying before Congress that the information was salacious and unverified months after all this transpired.

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C) The defense still reduces to You shouldn't have been looking when you found all that evidence.

#32 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

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What evidence? Nothing has yet to be shown about anything according the Feinstein, etc. So, please explain what evidence was found?

As I posted yesterday, the ---- will really hit the fan once the Papadopolous Ambassador story is finally covered. Kick a rock in this Russian Collusion story and out scrambles a Clinton co-criminal.

#34 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-02-10 09:23 PM | Reply

"Per McCabe, the FISA warrant would not have been issued without it."

Sources: Devin Nunes Memo Is ‘100%' Wrong About Andrew McCabe and Steele Dossier
The now-released memo claims the FBI deputy director said the Steele dossier was central to a surveillance warrant on Carter Page. Not true, sources tell The Daily Beast.
www.thedailybeast.com

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-10 09:26 PM | Reply

#34

What a hoot. I love this guy.

#36 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-10 09:26 PM | Reply

#34

That ambassador do-hickey has been in the news for months...Uh, you think it proves what?

#37 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-10 09:29 PM | Reply

Sources: Devin Nunes Memo Is ‘100%' Wrong About Andrew McCabe and Steele Dossier

#35 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

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Relying on Lying Schiff for brains? The Republicans and Justice Watch want the actual transcripts released. The Dems want them to remain hidden. Why do you think that is? From a thread on here earlier, if the FBI is so innocent, why do they keep acting so guilty? Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

#38 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-02-10 09:35 PM | Reply

#34

I gotcha. The real man is ignoring me going forward.

#39 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-10 09:36 PM | Reply

#38

Sunlight is a nice disinfectant. You support Trump releasing his finances, of course.

#40 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-10 09:38 PM | Reply

#38

I mean, you have no objection at all, right?

#41 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-10 09:39 PM | Reply

That ambassador do-hickey has been in the news for months...Uh, you think it proves what?

#37 | POSTED BY ZED

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So, the guy under investigation for helping Bill Clinton steal $25M in Aussie taxpayer dollars is the same one that just happens to have this drunk conversation with Papadapolous? What are the odds of that? Not only that, this guy then takes this conversations so seriously that he reaches out to the FBI? Recall that there is literally ZERO evidence of any collusion to date despite the FISA warrants, etc, not to mention the fact that the NSA eavesdrops on all communications. This will get better and better. Keep kicking rocks and out scurries more Clinton co-criminals....like Steele, Blumenthal, Shearer, Downer, etc. The further this goes, the worse the Dems will look.

#42 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-02-10 09:43 PM | Reply

#42

Papadopolous pled guilty.

So what's you point?

#43 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-10 09:45 PM | Reply

You support Trump releasing his finances, of course.

#40 | POSTED BY ZED

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Yes, I do. I think all politicians at the Federal level should release all their financial records and medical history. Further, they should be subject to drug testing. If caught violating the law while in a position in trust, they should be severely punished beyond the normal sentence for the crimes.

#44 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-02-10 09:45 PM | Reply

"Relying on Lying Schiff for brains?"

Relying on multiple sources.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-10 09:46 PM | Reply

#42

I suspect you have zero evidence of collusion to date because Robert Mueller doesn't confide in you.

#46 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-10 09:46 PM | Reply

#44

Great. Glad you support that. Because, as you know, Trump could settle a lot of this one way or the other by letting us know.

#47 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-10 09:48 PM | Reply

Papadopolous pled guilty.

#43 | POSTED BY ZED

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Pled guilty to lying. Lying about what? I want to know and the American people should too. Maybe he denied ever having the conversation with Downer and the FBI threatened him with a severe sentence or take the plea with a slap on the wrist and it all goes away. Please don't tell me you believe as a dyed in the wool that all people that accept plea agreements are guilty. You can't be that naive and/or hypocritical, can you?

#48 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-02-10 09:48 PM | Reply

"Sunlight is a nice disinfectant."

Let's see what's in some of those Donald J. Trump sexual harassment settlements.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-10 09:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Relying on multiple sources.

#45 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

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That doesn't cut it anymore after the Libs used the Steele dossier and then a Yahoo news article by Steele as being multiple sources. You got Lying and Leaking Schiff for brains and nothing else.

#50 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-02-10 09:50 PM | Reply

"Pled guilty to lying. Lying about what?"

Meeting with Russians...You know, what virtually everyone on Team Trump has lied to you about, expecting you to eat up.

Which reminds me: What number of "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" sworn statements is the current AG on. Three?

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-02-10 09:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Meeting with Russians

#51 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

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Please provide a credible citation for this being the lie or retract it. We both know you have no citation for this so why state it in the first place?

#52 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-02-10 09:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#48

Damn, man. What do you think is so fantastic about Trump colluding with a foreign power or money-laundering!

The suspicions concerning Trump fit his life pattern.

That's no one's fault except himself.

#53 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-10 09:55 PM | Reply

#52

Love this guy. Goatman?

#54 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-10 09:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#52

Define "credible citation" so none of us waste our time.

#55 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-10 10:02 PM | Reply

#52. Or are we done here?

#56 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-10 10:02 PM | Reply

#48
Damn, man.

#53 | POSTED BY ZED

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Back to the point of the post - is everyone that accepts a plea deal factually guilty of the crime for which they were accused?

#57 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-02-10 10:03 PM | Reply

[Papadopolous] [p]led guilty to lying. Lying about what? I want to know and the American people should too.
#48 | Posted by Rex_Buyt

Lying to the FBI about "links or coordination between individuals associated with the Campaign and the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election." www.justice.gov

Now you know. Amazing what that new fangled google thingy can do.

#58 | Posted by et_al at 2018-02-10 10:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

#57

Jeez Louise. Is everyone who says they're innocent factually innocent?

How many times has Donald Trump said he is innocent? More to the point, how often does he lie?

#59 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-10 10:05 PM | Reply

But the real question is what else Papadopolous has told Mueller. These plea agreements always have a cooperation clause.

#60 | Posted by et_al at 2018-02-10 10:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"That doesn't cut it anymore after the Libs used the Steele dossier and then a Yahoo news article by Steele as being multiple sources."

Steele writes for Yahoo News?
Was it an Op-Ed or something?
I'd call those separate sources.

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-10 10:18 PM | Reply

Lying to the FBI about "links or coordination between individuals associated with the Campaign and the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election."

Oh, is that all?
Nothingburger.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-10 10:19 PM | Reply

Please provide a credible citation for this being the lie or retract it. We both know you have no citation for this so why state it in the first place?

#52 | POSTED BY REX_BUYT

Why argue with the ignorant? You only goad them on. How many times has Donald Trump himself said that there are "no Russian contacts" with persons connected to his campaign and Administration?

Overall statistics

* At least 12 Trump associates had contacts with Russians during the campaign or transition

* There were at least 19 face-to-face interactions with Russians or Kremlin-linked figures

* There were at least 51 communications -- meetings, phone calls, email exchanges and more.
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* This flies in the face of at least nine blanket denials from Trump world of any contacts with Russia.

Before those reports, Trump himself and other senior administration officials offered blanket denials that had been any communication between campaign officials and Russians. "Russia is a ruse," Trump said in February. "I have nothing to do with Russia. Haven't made a phone call to Russia in years. ... I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge no person that I deal with does."

Days after the election, now-White House Communications Director Hope Hicks issued denials on behalf of the Trump campaign about the issue of Russia contacts. She told The New York Times that the campaign was "not aware of any campaign representatives that were in touch with any foreign entities" during the election. And she told The Associated Press that "there was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign."

All verified and confirmed lies.

#63 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-02-10 10:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

These plea agreements always have a cooperation clause.

Some might say that is the whole point of them.

#64 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-02-10 10:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Actual transparency" from the party that passed a healthcare bill without actually reading it? You need to pass it to know what's in it? That type of actual transparency?

Oh, please, after the rushed, secretive way the GOP passed their tax bill for the wealthy, which no one read and which contained last minute handwritten notes scribbled in the margins, you can give it up criticizing Dems on a lack of transparency.

#65 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-10 10:48 PM | Reply

Please provide a credible citation for this being the lie or retract it. We both know you have no citation for this so why state it in the first place?

#52 | POSTED BY REX_BUYT

Wow. I didn't think anyone still denied that they met with the Russians. I thought they were commanded by their spoon feeders to say the meeting wasn't criminal and therefore wasn't a problem.

#66 | Posted by jpw at 2018-02-10 10:51 PM | Reply

"But the real question is what else Papadopolous has told Mueller. These plea agreements always have a cooperation clause."

Papadopoulos's fiancée said she thinks he will be seen as the John Dean of Trump's presidency. We shall see.

#67 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-10 11:01 PM | Reply

"We both know you have no citation for this"

Et Al provided the citation.

Turns out only one of us knew the truth, and it wasn't you.

#68 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-02-10 11:21 PM | Reply

JeffJ'S so called hit piece is garbage on its face.

www.businessinsider.com

Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Chuck Grassley released a declassified version of a January letter in which he and committee member Lindsey Graham referred Trump-Russia dossier author Christopher Steele to the Department of Justice for criminal charges.
The letter appears to undercut two key assertions made in a bombshell memo released by the House Intelligence Committee last week, which purports to show the DOJ and FBI abusing their surveillance authority to monitor a former Trump campaign adviser. Former intelligence officials and legal experts also said the letter seems like a political stunt meant to discredit Steele, rather than the information contained in the dossier.

#69 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-02-10 11:24 PM | Reply

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
#38 | Posted by Rex_Buyt

Seems to have cleansed the smell of bull s--t from this room.

#70 | Posted by et_al at 2018-02-10 11:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"Per McCabe, the FISA warrant would not have been issued without it"

You're an idiot. You'd have to purposely take what McCabe said out of context:

www.realclearpolitics.com

"What evidence? Nothing has yet to be shown"

You must have missed this:

Russians: Let's collude!
Junior: I love it!
Russians: We'll bring others!
Junior: I'll lie about it!

Hint: Attempting collusion, and failing miserably due to your ineptitude, is still attempted collusion.

#71 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-02-10 11:43 PM | Reply

FTFY:

Russians: Let's collude!
Junior: I love it!
Russians: We'll bring others!
Junior: I'll lie about it!
Hicks: No one will ever find out!

#72 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-11 12:07 AM | Reply

Lying to the FBI about "links or coordination between individuals associated with the Campaign and the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election."

Apparently, that's the same thing Flynn plead to:

Flynn didn't just vaguely admit he lied. The law doesn't allow that. He admitted in writing that his lie "had a material impact" on the FBI's probe "into the existence of any links or coordination between individuals associated with the [Trump] Campaign and Russia's efforts to intervene in the 2016 election."

www.thedailybeast.com

"But the real question is what else Papadopolous has told Mueller. These plea agreements always have a cooperation clause."

The same question should be asked with regard to Flynn.

#73 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-11 12:20 AM | Reply

#72

I had that version, but took it out along with one additional line

Junior: I'll lie about it!
Donnie: No, I'LL lie about it!
Hicks: No one will ever find out!

Great minds, and all.

#74 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-02-11 12:42 AM | Reply

#73

The details of Flynn's plea are even better. assets.documentcloud.org

And yeah, what's he's said to Mueller is also an elephant in the room.

#75 | Posted by et_al at 2018-02-11 12:44 AM | Reply

the whole plan is mehmo palooza.

#76 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-02-11 01:50 AM | Reply

...and neither Grassley nor Graham EVER had any real credibility. they've both been been ruining lives for what seems like decades, at least.
pure altright swamp og.

#77 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-02-11 01:52 AM | Reply

Dems keep saying that nothing is there, yet how many people associated with this mess have had to resign, be re-assigned or fired?

#78 | Posted by sawdust at 2018-02-11 06:36 AM | Reply

#78

Trump did all of those things. Trump.

#79 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-11 07:01 AM | Reply

"how many people associated with this mess have had to resign, be re-assigned or fired?"

Lewandowski
Manafort
Flynn
Bannon
Spicer
Managault
Pribus
McFarland
Corallo
Scaramucci

Oh, I'm sorry...you were referring to a different mess....

#80 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-02-11 09:20 AM | Reply

Dissecting the Grassley-Graham Letter's Criticisms of the Carter Page FISA Application

www.justsecurity.org

#81 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-11 09:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

That's quite a link, Gal.
Goodman destroys Grassley-Graham's letter.
Especially if you go into the supporting links - like Natasha Bertrand's "Carter Page's testimony is filled with bombshells -- and supports key portions of the Steele dossier."

Grassley's awful as a human, but Graham, you just never know if he'll find his moral compass or not in any given situation. It appears he's lost it again with this letter.

The thing that bothers me most about these Republicans is the destruction they're doing to the United States. Do you think that Australian Ambassador would give a whit about coming forward today? Or that Steele, or another ally, would care what happens to the United States now? When these Republican scum will just come after you? Try and destroy you?

#82 | Posted by YAV at 2018-02-11 10:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Grassley's awful as a human, but Graham, you just never know if he'll find his moral compass or not in any given situation. It appears he's lost it again with this letter."

Yeah, every once in a while I hold out hope for Graham. As McCain's best buddy, I wonder if Graham could be cozying up to Trump in order to keep tabs on Trump's thinking. Would Graham go so far as releasing this letter with Grassley to give himself cover and in order to stay in Trump's good graces? It seems like a stretch, but I can't understand how Graham can come to such radically different conclusions from McCain on Trump-Russia. OTOH, it could be Russian, and hence Trump, have kompromat on Lindsey and so he's trying to protect Trump's butt in order to save his own.

#83 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-11 10:14 AM | Reply

Graham has to feed his base to stay elected. He's giving his constituents what they want. It's the price of being employed.

#84 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-02-11 10:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

www.politico.com

Devin Nunes creates his own alternative news site
Embattled California congressman finds a way to bypass the mainstream media.

By DAVID SIDERS 02/11/2018 06:59 AM EST

LOS ANGELES -- House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, a relentless critic of the media, has found a way around the often unflattering coverage of his role in the Trump-Russia investigation -- by operating his own partisan news outlet.

Resembling a local, conservative news site, "The California Republican" is classified on Facebook as a "media/news company" and claims to deliver "the best of US, California, and Central Valley news, sports, and analysis."

#85 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-02-11 12:22 PM | Reply

kompromat on Lindsey

Such an idea! I think Laura's right, though.

#85 - lordy, lordy. I really hope Andrew Janz kicks Nunes disgusting butt out in November!

#86 | Posted by YAV at 2018-02-11 01:16 PM | Reply

YAV

" I really hope Andrew Janz kicks Nunes disgusting butt out in November!"

Nunes will have a job in the Trump administration before then, provided he continues to prove his loyalty over party.

Trump needs to surround himself with as many hand-picked Dementors as he can find.

#87 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-02-11 02:18 PM | Reply

Reflexively slaughtering the source is what intellectually lazy (and tribal) people do.

#7 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-02-10 11:37 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

What a joke. Go tell it to the right-wing moron army.

#88 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-02-11 03:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

""Grassley's awful as a human"

Absolutely true. Graham isn't much better but there could be a tiny amount of humanity in him but not in Grassley.

#89 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-12 08:17 AM | Reply

Dear Liberals we already know that the Clinton fixed the primaries so she would win. Do you honestly think that's where she stopped? She used every means to win and I can't wait for all of this to come out. Your party used the justice department and the FBI to go after her opponent. This is worse than anything Nixon ever done how you can sit there and not at least question the pattern when looked at it from the primaries till know is beyond me.

#90 | Posted by WTFIGO at 2018-02-12 10:58 AM | Reply

This is worse than anything Nixon ever done

Someone needs to read up on Nixon.

#91 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-02-12 11:17 AM | Reply

How many times has Donald Trump himself said that there are "no Russian contacts" with persons connected to his campaign and Administration?

How the right has been playing this:

1. There was no contacts with Russians.

2. There was contacts, but it wasn't during the campaign.

3. There was contacts during the campaign, but there were no meetings.

4. There were meetings, but there was no collusion.

5. Collusion isn't bad.

#92 | Posted by 726 at 2018-02-12 12:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is worse than anything Nixon ever done
Someone needs to read up on Nixon.

#91 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2018-02-12 11:17 AM | FLAG:

No someone needs to see what Obama and company did during the election. Do you honestly believe if they had something over a year later it would not have been leaked yet?

#93 | Posted by WTFIGO at 2018-02-12 12:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Absolutely true. Graham isn't much better but there could be a tiny amount of humanity in him but not in Grassley.

#89 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-12 08:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

Graham has no humanity, but he like to pretend he does in front a camera when it benefits him.

#94 | Posted by 726 at 2018-02-12 12:32 PM | Reply

No someone needs to see what Obama and company did during the election.
#93 | POSTED BY WTFIGO

All is forgiven in the ancient past of 12-14 months ago, unless Trump did something.

#95 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-02-12 10:29 PM | Reply

Dear Liberals we already know that the Clinton fixed the primaries so she would win. Do you honestly think that's where she stopped?

Absolutely not!! She went on to fix the general election so she would lose!!

LOCK HER UP!!!!

#96 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-02-12 10:34 PM | Reply

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