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Friday, February 09, 2018

When Rand Paul took control of the Senate floor just before 6 p.m. Eastern, virtually every one of his Republican colleagues grimaced. Five years ago, they would have cheered him. Paul's speech, which slowed attempts to pass a massive budget deal before the government shuts down at midnight, was a savaging of his party -- a party that appears to have turned 180 degrees from the deficit hawks of the mid 2010s who insisted that government spending was ballooning out of control and was crippling the country. "When the Democrats are in power, Republicans appear to be the conservative party," Paul said at one point. "But when Republicans are in power, it seems there is no conservative party. The hypocrisy hangs in the air and chokes anyone with a sense of decency or intellectual honesty." He is 100% right.

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The simple fact is that Republicans in the Obama era defined themselves primarily as committed to reducing government spending and shrinking the nation's debt. The ur-document of that age was Paul Ryan's budget, in which he proudly touted the need to confront entitlement spending and make the hard cuts necessary to keep the country solvent for the foreseeable future.

"Our debt is a threat to this country," Ryan said in a 2013 speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference. "We have to tackle this problem before it tackles us."

He was far from alone. Republicans insisted that any spending legislation -- even for disaster relief -- be paid for with budget offsets. Every major Republican leader talked about debt and deficit relentlessly.

That focus on deficit reduction and spending restraint bled into the 2016 primary as the top tier candidates -- including Paul -- championed it. One candidate, however, did not.

That candidate was Donald Trump, the self-proclaimed "king of debt." Trump showed little care or concern for the issue that had animated the party he was running to lead.

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"And then Trump won. Not just the Republican primary, but the election. And suddenly his priorities -- immigration, trade protectionism and a tax cut -- became the party's principles. Curtailing spending and reducing debt went out the window -- or at least way down the list of what the GOP cared about.

And Ryan, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and almost the entire rest of the Republican Party -- sans Paul and a handful of House conservatives -- went along for the ride.

Paul's issue was a simple one: A two-year spending bill that would increase the federal deficit by more than $300 billion was being rammed through at the last minute -- and without any amendments being offered.
And he's right about that too.

The natural result of our current style of governing -- lurching from crisis to crisis -- is this sort of showdown. Paul is right that it is absolutely ridiculous that a near-700-page piece of legislation that senators got their hands on around midnight Wednesday should be passed by midnight Thursday.

And yet, when you are faced with the possibility of a second government shutdown in the space of 17 days, passing this sort of legislation -- whether or not it represents a massive U-turn on the very priorities your party touted just a few years ago -- becomes your only option.

Which makes Paul either a principled hero or a misguided Don Quixote -- depending on where you stand.
"The reason I'm here tonight is to put people on the spot," Paul said.

"I want people to feel uncomfortable. I want them to have to answer people at home who said, 'How come you were against President Obama's deficits, and then how come you're for Republican deficits?' "

Mission accomplished."

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#1 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-09 12:27 AM | Reply

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"When the Democrats are in power, Republicans appear to be the conservative party," Paul said at one point.

"But when Republicans are in power, it seems there is no conservative party. The hypocrisy hangs in the air and chokes anyone with a sense of decency or intellectual honesty."


The problem with what Paul is saying is that rank-and-file Republican voters are so dense [dumb] they couldn't find their ----- with a funnel.

Opposing Obama was easy -- Black Guy = "No!"

With Orange Effing Moron in office, deficits yet again, don't matter -- not hard.

Pathetic

#2 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-02-09 08:43 AM | Reply

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter"
-- Winston Churchill

Conservatives have successfully welded 'willful hypocrisy' and 'willful stupidity' at the hip -- both with lawmakers and with average Republican voters.

#3 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-02-09 08:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I have a serious problem with Rand's sudden concern about the deficit, after he voted to add $1.5 Trillion to it.

Aw, who's kidding who? $2 Trillion.

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-02-09 09:06 AM | Reply

Republicans as a whole are cowards and cowards are always dangerous.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-09 11:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Next step is to crash the economy and wreck the budget then fight against dems who are voted in to fix it. As always.

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-02-09 11:44 AM | Reply

I have a serious problem with Rand's sudden concern about the deficit, after he voted to add $1.5 Trillion to it.
Aw, who's kidding who? $2 Trillion.

#4 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2018-02-09 09:06 AM | REPLY
Exactly! Randy is a phony POS. Typical Teajadist puke.

#7 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-02-09 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I have a serious problem with Rand's sudden concern about the deficit, after he voted to add $1.5 Trillion to it.

Republicans only care about the deficit when it can be used as an reason to cast less-fortunate human beings into further despair. They have no problem ballooning the deficit to benefit corporations and rich people.

#8 | Posted by JOE at 2018-02-09 12:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Part of the reason I dislike Paul so much is that he always votes along party lines anyway. Never walks the walk.

#9 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-02-09 12:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What type of enigmatic reality do we live in where both parties are obstructionists whenever the other party is in power and then both parties are hypocritically being hypocritical about the obstructionism?

#10 | Posted by humtake at 2018-02-09 12:19 PM | Reply

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#10

I'm opposing a dictator. I don't know what you're doing.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-09 12:21 PM | Reply

What type of enigmatic reality do we live in...

"Hello babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. On the outside, babies, you've got a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies-"God damn it, you've got to be kind."― Kurt Vonnegut

We live in the world we created. You want to change it?

Change yourself.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-09 12:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

What type of enigmatic reality do we live in where both parties are obstructionists whenever the other party is in power and then both parties are hypocritically being hypocritical about the obstructionism?

#10 | Posted by humtake

What type of reality do YOU live in where repub and dems are equally guilty of obstructionism and hypocrisy?

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-02-09 02:01 PM | Reply

He's 100% correct.

This country is on a path to bankruptcy.

#14 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-09 02:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This country is on a path to bankruptcy.

#14 | Posted by JeffJ

And now it's running FASTER on that path because a lot of people said there's no difference between repubs and dems, which helps repubs win, pass uneeded tax cuts, deregulate wall street, burn money on the military, orchestrate shutdowns, and raise interest rates.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-02-09 03:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This country is on a path to bankruptcy.

#14 | Posted by JeffJ

No worries! The King of Debt will save us. If things don't work out he will just "renegotiate it".

"I'm the king of debt. I'm great with debt. Nobody knows debt better than me," ...

"I've made a fortune by using debt, and if things don't work out I renegotiate the debt. I mean, that's a smart thing, not a stupid thing."

--King Humpy

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-09 03:15 PM | Reply

a party that appears to have turned 180 degrees from the deficit hawks of the mid 2010s

Please.

The only reason they were "deficit hawks" then was because of the black guy in the oval office.

They had no problem racking up debt for W and have no problem adding another 1.5 TRILLION for dotard...Randy Paul included.

#17 | Posted by 726 at 2018-02-09 03:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We get all the financing we need from Russia.
-trumplet

#18 | Posted by bored at 2018-02-09 03:38 PM | Reply

He's 100% correct.

And he VOTED FOR THE TAX CUTS that made the problem worse.

#19 | Posted by 726 at 2018-02-09 03:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#15 SpeakSoftly: And now it's running FASTER on that path because a lot of people said there's no difference between repubs and dems...

I used to say that the Dems in Congress were driving the U.S. train towards fiscal destruction as fast as they could. The only difference between the two parties is that the Repubs were doing the same thing, but at a more leisurely pace.

Now? There isn't a dime's worth of difference (to paraphrase Will Rogers) between the two parties when it comes to fiscal irresponsibility. I have been saying for over TWENTY YEARS that the national debt is going to crash our country like a fiscal tsunami. It will be definitely be worse than the Great Depression of the 1930's, and as one writer calls it, it will be the GREATER DEPRESSION.

#20 | Posted by AKat at 2018-02-09 04:57 PM | Reply

Now? There isn't a dime's worth of difference (to paraphrase Will Rogers) between the two parties when it comes to fiscal irresponsibility. I have been saying for over TWENTY YEARS that the national debt is going to crash our country like a fiscal tsunami. It will be definitely be worse than the Great Depression of the 1930's, and as one writer calls it, it will be the GREATER DEPRESSION.

#20 | Posted by AKat

Wrong. Democrats spend on things that actually help people - healthcare and getting us out of a recession.

Repubs spend on military toys and tax cuts for people who don't need them.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-02-09 05:53 PM | Reply

"The only reason they were "deficit hawks" then was because of the black guy in the oval office."

They pretended when bill Clinton was in office as well, Frankie the racebaiter

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-09 06:05 PM | Reply

"I have been saying for over TWENTY YEARS that the national debt is going to crash our country like a fiscal tsunami.)

You are such a worry wart! That is why we voted for Humpy Trumpy. He will save us! As you know he is the only one who can.

And he loves debt. He knows how to make a fortune with debt.

And he is a professional debtor. A professional negotiator. When we crash he will just "renegotiate" the debt.

We are gonna be so rich with renegotiated debt you won't believe how rich we'll be. Believe me.

Don't even think about it! Don't even think about it! Don't even think about it!

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-09 06:09 PM | Reply

Yeah I'm surprised he hasn't talked about defaulting on the debt yet. Senator Phil Gramm kicked the idea around in the 90's and he wasn't as much of a nut job as Trump is

#24 | Posted by danS at 2018-02-10 12:59 PM | Reply

"Senator Phil Gramm kicked the idea around in the 90's and he wasn't as much of a nut job as Trump is"

Gramm wasn't a nut, he was pure evil. Rand Paul isn't in his league.

#25 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-10 01:04 PM | Reply

He's 100% correct.

This country is on a path to bankruptcy.

#14 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-09 02:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

The GOP put us on that trajectory. It was not by accident either. Anyone familiar with the two santa clauses doctrine knows this. It was a strategy devised to kill the democratic party by giving away the treasury to the point where democrats had to step in and be the bad guy cutting domestic spending and raising taxes.

Reagan did it by increasing spending and cutting taxes drastically.

W. did the same.

Dotard is following the same model.

And the GOP, ALL THE GOP are following merrily along.

The goal is to kill Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security and Unemployment Insurance. Something that can only be sold if the government is flat ass broke.

They want to inflict pain on the poor to benefit the morbidly wealthy.

#26 | Posted by 726 at 2018-02-10 01:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"This country is on a path to bankruptcy."

Republicans love to say that but won't even consider any real solutions for it other than taking away things that are important to most Americans.
My proposal, that I've made several times in the past few months, for every $1 in taxes cut now $2 will be raised when the pendulum swings. Make it so expensive, in the long run, for Republicans to cut taxes that they will quit acting so irresponsibly. Make it hurt them, make it enough to actually begin paying down debt. 91% was the highest tax rate when we paid down the WWII debt, we're about at the same level compared to GDP today so we should return to that level of taxation. Probably the simplest and easiest way would be to just repeal all the tax bills passed since Reagan was inaugurated.

#27 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-10 01:37 PM | Reply

"This country is on a path to bankruptcy."

We've got the right man in charge, then.
Trump's companies are no stranger to bankruptcy.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-10 01:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"This country is on a path to bankruptcy."

That can't possibly be. Bill Clinton left Dubya and the Rs true surplus budgets and full employment.

What did Dubya leave behind?

And whose fault is it between what Dubya got, and what Dubya handed off?

#29 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-02-10 07:02 PM | Reply

"This country is on a path to bankruptcy."

Is that even possible? Seriously? The USA is how much in debt now? $20 Trillion or something like that? Does that even matter? Surely no one ever expects that to be paid. The US has been going farther and farther in debt since the beginning. That's why the US has so much "stuff', it's never paid for about $20 Trillion worth, and it never will.

#30 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-02-10 07:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Republicans play conservative when they're not in power and spend like crackheads when they are in power.

#31 | Posted by Tor at 2018-02-10 08:35 PM | Reply

Paul correctly calls out Republican hypocrisy. But Paul voted for the hypocritical tax cut. Paul has Presidential ambitions and was grandstanding.

It is a ruling class conspiracy to control the money supply. A position which gives them everything for nothing. Our Government should retake this control and prevent private profiteering on all Government projects, cutting their costs in half. This also eliminates most financial eisks associated with deficits. All money is then owed to self.

#32 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-02-11 07:34 AM | Reply

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