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Friday, February 09, 2018

A day after White House Staff Secretary Rob Porter resigned amid allegations he physically abused his ex-wives, the Trump administration is still struggling to contain the fallout. The question of who knew what, and when, is being hotly debated in the West Wing. Chief of Staff John Kelly, whose relationship with Trump has been strained in recent weeks, is taking the lion's share of the blame, as I reported yesterday. On Wednesday night, Donald Trump vented to advisers that Kelly had not fully briefed him on Porter's issues with women until recently, two sources told me. Trump was also not aware of the severity of the alleged abuse until yesterday, when Ivanka walked into the Oval Office and showed her father a photo published in the Daily Mail of Porter's ex-wife with a black eye. "He was fucking pissed," said one Republican briefed on the conversation. According to a source, Ivanka and Jared Kushner have been discussing possible chief-of-staff replacements.

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West Wing staffers continue to wonder why Kelly would keep the Porter allegations from the president, and why he defended Porter so aggressively when presented with allegations by the Mail. Porter's history with women had been known to Kelly for months, a source familiar with the matter said. (Porter has been working with a temporary security clearance because the allegations surfaced in an F.B.I. background interview.) According to a source, Kelly at first pushed back when White House officials wanted him to issue a second statement walking back his initial strong defense of Kelly. Kelly ultimately wrote that he was "shocked by the new allegations."

The crisis also raises questions about Hope Hicks's decision-making, and whether her romantic relationship with Porter clouded her judgment. According to a source, Hicks did not get a sign off from Trump for the White House's initial statement defending Porter, in which Kelly was quoted calling Porter a "man of true integrity." She drafted the statement with her close friend, Kushner's White House spokesman Josh Raffel, whom she's known since their days working for Manhattan P.R. strategist Matthew Hiltzik. This morning, Hicks continued to defend Porter in private, a source said, telling people she thinks the allegations aren't true. In recent weeks, Trump has been angry at Hicks for her role in approving interviews with Michael Wolff, a Republican close to the White House told me. (The White House did not respond to requests for comment.)

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"The crisis also raises questions about Hope Hicks's decision-making, and whether her romantic relationship with Porter clouded her judgment"

When has a romantic relationship clouded judgment?

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-08 06:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

If Porter was Hick's boyfriend then who is Donald sleeping with?

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-08 06:06 PM | Reply

Yet another opportunity to play the official Trump Presidential Theme Song (tm).

www.youtube.com

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-02-08 10:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

ZED

"If Porter was Hick's boyfriend then who is Donald sleeping with?"

From a woman's point of view I have a hard time believing it's anybody.

#4 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-02-09 10:34 AM | Reply | Funny: 6

"According to a source, Ivanka and Jared Kushner have been discussing possible chief-of-staff replacements."

Nunes?

Or would that be too obvious?

#5 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-02-09 10:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So ----- grabbing is ok but eye punching isn't?

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-02-09 11:17 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

So ----- grabbing is ok but eye punching isn't?
#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

What if you punch the in the ----- or grab them by the eye?

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-02-09 11:22 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

No mulligan for Rob from the wife beater in chief?

#8 | Posted by bored at 2018-02-09 11:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

No, I guess not.

Romeo had one too many ex-wives.

#9 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-02-09 12:08 PM | Reply

Given the effusive praise Kelly gave Porter, I'm guessing Porter's got something on him. I doubt we'll ever hear about it though.

#10 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2018-02-09 12:33 PM | Reply

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The------------------- just gave Porter a fond farewell.

Trump: ‘Remember' Rob Porter Says He Innocent

www.thedailybeast.com

#11 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2018-02-09 01:28 PM | Reply

he------------------- just gave Porter a fond farewell.

Trump: ‘Remember' Rob Porter Says He Innocent

www.thedailybeast.com

#11 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

Right. Because innocent people always quit their jobs as soon as they get falsely accused.

About as believable as any other of trump's million lies.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-02-09 02:01 PM | Reply

Trump: Roy Moore and Rob Porter claim innocence, he supports them.

Trump: Central Park Five exonerated by DNA, he wants them executed.

See the difference?

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-09 02:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

See the difference?

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Skin color.

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-02-09 02:13 PM | Reply

So I am confused here. What was it that the white house considered a fireable offense? Seems like grounds for a promotion.

#15 | Posted by bus_driver at 2018-02-09 02:58 PM | Reply

Hope Hicks was banging a wife beater. Why not me?
- Dotard
#metoo
#paradeforme

#16 | Posted by bored at 2018-02-09 03:12 PM | Reply

Remember when Kelley went on TV and said that women are scared? He has no morals.

#17 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-02-09 05:29 PM | Reply

Remember when Kelley went on TV and said that women are scared? He has no morals.

#17 | Posted by BruceBanner

That's why this entire administration is in power. 30% of americans wanted -------- in charge to do cruel things to the people they dislike.

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-02-09 05:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Despite his reminiscing about the good old days when "Women were sacred and looked upon with great honor," Kelly doesn't have a good track record vouching for abusive men he knows:

Mr. Kelly has previously played down accusations against someone he believed served a greater goal. He appeared as a character witness in a 2016 court-martial of a Marine colonel accused of sexually harassing two female subordinates. Mr. Kelly praised the colonel as a "superb Marine officer."

www.nytimes.com

This is the "superb Marine officer" Kelly championed:

Todd Shane Tomko, 54, was arrested and lodged in the Adams County Jail in Quincy, Illinois Nov. 22 on outstanding warrants from the Virginia Beach Police Department, officials with the jail confirmed to Military.com. The Quincy Herald-Whig, which first published news of Tomko's arrest, reported that he was arrested on seven felony warrants of indecent liberties with a child.

www.military.com

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-09 08:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I think the thing we need to realize as a society is that abusers usually don't look like abusers to people around them at work, in church, at the gym etc. Abusers can truly be Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde:

Col. Todd Shane Tomko admitted to sending explicit messages to a female subordinate. (A charging document also indicated that Tomko forcibly kissed a female Marine corporal in October 2014.)

Kelly was among four active-duty and retired officers who testified on Tomko's behalf at his 2016 court-martial. According to Military.com:

Kelly, who testified via telephone from Boston, where he was set to speak at a Memorial Day service, said he had known Tomko for a decade and, while he never worked closely with him, had always observed his character to be upstanding.

"Socially, he's a great Marine," Kelly said, adding that he had a reputation as a "gunfighter" and upstanding leader.

Tomko was later charged, in 2017, with taking indecent liberties with a child.

www.vox.com

#20 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-09 09:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#19

President Trump only picks the best.

#21 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-02-09 09:07 PM | Reply

How about the "ME Too" leader.
Is she also guilty until proven innocent? Is she too not subject to the 4th and 5th amendment? Or do we have to wait 20 years first?
www.usatoday.com

What a bunch of Hippocrates.

#22 | Posted by Federalist at 2018-02-09 09:11 PM | Reply

#22

That applies to the current conversation because why?

#23 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-02-09 09:12 PM | Reply

#23 | Posted by rstybeach11
After 20 years an accusation comes out and you assume its a fact and the accused is guilty as charged.

#24 | Posted by Federalist at 2018-02-09 09:14 PM | Reply

When did you stop beating your ex wife?

#25 | Posted by Federalist at 2018-02-09 09:15 PM | Reply

23 | Posted by rstybeach11
After 20 years an accusation comes out and you assume its a fact and the accused is guilty as charged.

#24 | POSTED BY FEDERALIST

What? WTF are you accusing me of?

#26 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-02-09 09:16 PM | Reply

#25

Wow. Ouch. Burn.

#27 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-09 09:17 PM | Reply

Federalist deflecting to something other than a Clinton? Will wonders never cease.

#28 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-02-09 09:19 PM | Reply

Donald Trump is a sexual abuser who hires other sexual abusers.

It's not even the worst thing he does.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-09 09:20 PM | Reply

#26 | Posted by rstybeach11
See how it works!

#30 | Posted by Federalist at 2018-02-09 09:20 PM | Reply

See how it works!
#30 | POSTED BY FEDERALIST

Actually no, I don't. That's why I asked what you were accusing me of when you posted "After 20 years an accusation comes out and you assume its a fact and the accused is guilty as charged."

Please. Clarify.

#31 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-02-09 09:22 PM | Reply

Understand that the latest sexual abuser leaving the White House alleges that his tiny ex wife abused him.

#32 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-09 09:24 PM | Reply

#30

Further, when there is photographic evidence of my wife with a black eye after her accusation of my abusive behavior, I'd be able to tell you when it was I jacked her up.

What....you claiming "fake news"? Was this manufactured via conspiracy between his ex wife and the WaPo?

Yikes.

#33 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-02-09 09:25 PM | Reply

This would be the same little woman who burns herself with cigarettes so she'll have something to lie about her ex later.

#34 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-09 09:26 PM | Reply

Why does any of this hurt Federalist's feelings? It's not that the Trump WH has a reputation to tarnish.

#35 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-09 09:30 PM | Reply

"After 20 years an accusation comes out and you assume its a fact and the accused is guilty as charged."

The fact that 2 ex-wives testified to the FBI, which would make it a crime if they lied, does add credence to their accounts. As does the fact that the FBI denied Porter his security clearance as a result of their investigation into the ex-wives claims, which included looking at the photographic evidence and interviewing people who could corroborate their stories. I believe a 3rd woman, an ex-girlfriend, has also come forward. IOW, the FBI did do an investigation, so it isn't just "assume guilty as charged" in this case.

#36 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-09 09:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

After 20 years an accusation comes out and you assume its a fact and the accused is guilty as charged.

#24 | Posted by Federalist

People don't quit their job the instant a FALSE accusation comes out.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-02-09 09:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"How about the "ME Too" leader.
Is she also guilty until proven innocent? Is she too not subject to the 4th and 5th amendment? Or do we have to wait 20 years first?
www.usatoday.com
What a bunch of Hippocrates."

www.drudge.com

#38 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-09 09:39 PM | Reply

Republicans, they like to pick on the weak, but cry about bone spurs when faced with real danger.

#39 | Posted by bored at 2018-02-09 09:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Woah, the olympic weiner just lits the ball on fire.

#40 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-02-09 10:49 PM | Reply

wrong thread, obviously.

#41 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-02-09 10:50 PM | Reply

#4 | POSTED BY TWINPAC
"From a woman's point of view I have a hard time believing it's anybody."

Why did the thread continue after this post? It was perfect.

#42 | Posted by TheTom at 2018-02-09 11:37 PM | Reply

The current whitehouse is running out of eyes to blacken.

#43 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-02-10 02:11 AM | Reply

ABORTED

It's a tossup who's going to be next. The heat is on Kelly at the moment but he might just resign in disgust. Also, I don't see how Hope Hicks stays on after this embarrassing departure of her boyfriend.

The revolving door at the White House employment office is swinging wildly in one direction.

As it is, Trump can't find replacements who have any self respect. So we end up with dredges and dead-enders to run the government ~ in other words, mirror images of himself.

#44 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-02-10 04:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

womens scorn, don't mess with Ex's they get back at you every time.

#45 | Posted by Crassus at 2018-02-10 05:22 AM | Reply

And what does this have to do with Hicks?

#46 | Posted by Crassus at 2018-02-10 05:23 AM | Reply

CRASSUS

And what does this have to do with Hicks?

Pillow talk and a paranoid Donad Trump.

#47 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-02-10 05:34 AM | Reply

#45 You would think that wife beaters would learn their lesson.
#Hopeless

#48 | Posted by bored at 2018-02-10 05:36 AM | Reply

CRASSUS

"womens scorn, don't mess with Ex's they get back at you every time."

Only if they have to wear something to hide the scars when they go out in public.

BTW, are you speaking with the voice of experience?

You can tell us. We won't squeal on you.

#49 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-02-10 05:54 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Catholic, Mormon and Moslem authorities have a long history of misogynist policy.

#50 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-02-10 06:58 AM | Reply

So, so tired of winning...

#51 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2018-02-10 09:51 AM | Reply

I am sure the abuse happened after Porter told his wife to make him a sammich a second time, explaining what he expected, i.e., "Take two pieces of bread, some cheese, some bologna, and a bit of mayonnaise, and build it. A monkey could make a sandwich with these ingredients; what the hell is wrong with you!?!" Smack!

#52 | Posted by john47 at 2018-02-10 10:07 AM | Reply

After 20 years an accusation comes out and you assume its a fact and the accused is guilty as charged.

#24 | Posted by Federalist

People don't quit their job the instant a FALSE accusation comes out.

#37 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Pro tip for the Federalist. If you ever think you might want a security clearance. Never ever piss off your wife (or wives). Divorce can make you lose your clearance faster than pretty much anything. Wives know all your deep dark secrets and when you abuse them, well, as you should know, hell hath no fury like a scorned woman. And besides, it is against the law to lie to the FBI. So why would they lie when the truth will work just fine?

#53 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-10 01:53 PM | Reply

Fox News host Jeanine Pirro blames Barack Obama for Rob Porter wife-beating scandal

www.rawstory.com

#54 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-11 10:20 AM | Reply

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