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Wednesday, January 31, 2018

Three in four Americans who tuned in to President Trump's State of the Union address tonight approved of the speech he gave. Just a quarter disapproved.

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Now that's fake news!

#1 | Posted by CVA43 at 2018-01-31 11:06 AM | Reply

TelePrompTer Trump is much better than Twitter Trump.

But, he did nothing to help us create a more perfect Union.

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-31 11:07 AM | Reply

I, like most people I have talked to today, did not watch last night.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-31 11:10 AM | Reply

The poll is based on who watched the dotard talk.

52% of respondents were already Trump supporters and SOTU speeches are usually well received.

"
Jan 15 2016, 6:47 am ET
Poll: Majority of Americans Approve of Obama's State of the Union Address

by Hannah Hartig and John Lapinski

Overall, 55% of the 31.3 million people who tuned in to President Barack Obama's final State of the Union address on Tuesday night felt positively about his remarks. "

#4 | Posted by 726 at 2018-01-31 11:57 AM | Reply

The poll is based on who watched the dotard talk.

Of course it is, that is the point...how accurate would it be to poll people, like Danni, who didn't watch the speech, on how they felt about it?

You have outdone yourself with this inane post.

#5 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-31 12:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

TelePrompTer Trump is much better than Twitter Trump.

Completely agree and that has been the case since he announced that he was running for President.

#6 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-31 12:08 PM | Reply

I actually watched a new Netflix series called "Retribution." It was really very good, I'm truly enjoying Netflix now that I don't have cable TV.

#7 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-31 12:16 PM | Reply

But, he did nothing to help us create a more perfect Union.

#2 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2018-01-31 11:07 AM | FLAG: ... and you think obama did???

#8 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-01-31 12:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#7

That series is good and knowing how you feel about Donnie Little Hands, probably your best decision of the day.

#9 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-31 12:30 PM | Reply

3/4ths of the viewers were probably his inbred supporters. The sample was skewed. I didn't bother as I've heard him speak before and I don't need to ever again. It is worse than white noise and makes less sense.

#10 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-31 12:32 PM | Reply

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Of course it is, that is the point...how accurate would it be to poll people, like Danni, who didn't watch the speech, on how they felt about it?
You have outdone yourself with this inane post.

#5 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Look beyond your troglodyte brow ridge and read the title. It says; Majority of US Public, not majority of viewers. I bet the same inbred 30% that always approve of him approved the speech and not one more.

#11 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-31 12:35 PM | Reply

Look beyond your troglodyte brow ridge and read the title. It says; Majority of US Public, not majority of viewers. I bet the same inbred 30% that always approve of him approved the speech and not one more.

#11 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES

If you could be bothered to click the link tied to this thread, the very first thing you'd see is this:

Viewers approve of Trump's first State of the Union address - CBS News poll

Boaz changed the headline. Here's a tip: If you are going to be a condescending dick, don't be so lazy. Read the link tied to the thread.

#12 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-31 12:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I bet the same inbred 30% that always approve of him approved the speech and not one more. - #11 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-31 12:35 PM
Ignorant, bigoted and wrong all in a single post. I'm afraid we can only award you a tie for all of your other posts, however.

#13 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-31 02:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Boaz changed the headline. Here's a tip: If you are going to be a condescending dick, don't be so lazy. Read the link tied to the thread.

#12 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-31 12:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

He's got you Boaz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#14 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-01-31 02:49 PM | Reply

Boaz changed the headline. Here's a tip: If you are going to be a condescending dick, don't be so lazy. Read the link tied to the thread.

#12 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Illiterate, I was referring to the title.

#15 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-31 03:17 PM | Reply

#13 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

You must be among the 30%, huh trailer trash?

#16 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-31 03:18 PM | Reply

Illiterate, I was referring to the title.

#15 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES

I know you were.

This is what you posted:

Look beyond your troglodyte brow ridge and read the title. It says; Majority of US Public, not majority of viewers. I bet the same inbred 30% that always approve of him approved the speech and not one more.

#11 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES


That came across as you believing Boaz's inaccurate headline, in lieu of actually clicking the embedded link, or at the very least having read the two sentence summary he reproduced from his link. I'll reproduce it here:

Three in four Americans who tuned in to President Trump's State of the Union address tonight approved of the speech he gave. Just a quarter disapproved.

That is in plain sight at the top of this thread.

Notice how it says, "who tuned into"? That is completely contrary to your comment, "It says; Majority of US Public, not majority of viewers."

#17 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-31 03:27 PM | Reply

"That came across as you believing Boaz's inaccurate headline" #17 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Sure it came across that way, if you can't read English. Hence the nickname "illiterate" for you.

#18 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-31 04:32 PM | Reply

Sure it came across that way, if you can't read English

I can read English. Apparently it is you who can't.

The summary says this:

Three in four Americans who tuned in to President Trump's State of the Union address tonight approved of the speech he gave. Just a quarter disapproved.


You responded with:

It says; Majority of US Public, not majority of viewers. I bet the same inbred 30% that always approve of him approved the speech and not one more.

I get that you were responding to Boaz's inaccurate headline. That was a foolish thing to do given that it's inaccurate.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-31 04:40 PM | Reply

He doesnt need a story to pretend to be outraged. Just a headline will do it for most of these freaks.

#20 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-01-31 04:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump made a speech last night?

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-01-31 04:44 PM | Reply

#19 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

I don't see where you jumped from me refuting his title to me believing in it. How can I believe that which I am currently refuting.

I get that you're being your typical pedantic self, but if you really felt I was so condescending toward you in my first post; maybe strive to exit that group of willful ignorants?

#22 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-31 04:45 PM | Reply

How can I believe that which I am currently refuting.

In your refutation, you flat-out state that "it says Majority of US public". That is what you were responding to. Had you instead said, "It says majority of US public, but it's actually majority of viewers". Yeah, that would have worked. After you ran with "majority of US public" you said this, "I bet the same inbred 30% that always approve of him approved the speech and not one more." which means you were attempting to debunk something that was false in the first place.

Were it not for your condescension and insult in #11 I would have let it go because it's not a big deal.

You're combative for the sake of being combative. It doesn't have to be that way.

#23 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-31 04:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

In your refutation, you flat-out state that "it says Majority of US public".

It does say that.

Does Boaz believe, "Three in four Americans who tuned in to President Trump's State of the Union", represents the "majority of US public"?

I mean. I know he doesn't consider Californians to be Americans.

The fact is. Boaz is a moron. As apparent by his headline.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-01-31 05:04 PM | Reply

#23 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

I'm only combative to trolls like you and RoC that want to fling shit instead of having real discussions. Besides, it was your ilk that BEGGED the nation to end the political correctness. This past year, you DR righties have essentially ended meaningful debate on this site. It only occurs vary rarely in threads that are Left vs More Left commentators debating. There is no reason I should give your delusions any more consideration than you give the reality that defies your skewed worldview. I'll say it again, if you don't want condescending comments, don't be obtuse, ignorant, prideful asses.

#25 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-31 05:53 PM | Reply

#25 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES

I don't care how combative you want to be. You're so close-minded and prejudiced that you can't help how you behave. Your tack is pseudo-intellectualism at its finest. You seem well educated and have a nice vocabulary, but seem to lack the ability to think critically. You have all of the left-wing pablum memorized and seem to simply respond to remarks you disagree with by plugging in whichever left-wing platitude seems to fit. It's why you lash out when sources you'd normally trust, like the LA Times, report on something that contradicts your narratives. Your prejudice prevents you from debating in good faith. It's why you typically respond with insults and condescension in lieu of substance.

#26 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-31 06:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Indy once again skipped his Reading Comprehension Tutor class with Snoofy, are you really surprised that the King of the DRtards got this wrong...again?

#27 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-31 06:39 PM | Reply

I'll say it again, if you don't want condescending comments, don't be obtuse, ignorant, prideful asses.

Says the most obtuse, ignorant, prideful ass on this site. Indy, once you are shown your own mistakes, you revert to the lowest common denominator on this site: flinging insults and pretending that you weren't wrong.

At least you can hang out with Corky when you are down there.

#28 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-31 06:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

3/4ths of the viewers were probably his inbred supporters. The sample was skewed.

10 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES AT 2018-01-31 12:32 PM

Wrong-According to the link you didn't read, the break down was 42% GOP, 25% Dems and 33% Independents.

read the title. It says; Majority of US Public, not majority of viewers. I bet the same inbred 30% that always approve of him approved the speech and not one more.

#11 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES AT 2018-01-31 12:35 PM

Even more wrong-According to the link you didn't read, 95% of GOP viewers, 22% of Dem Viewers and 66% of Independent viewers approved of the speech.

i'm only combative to trolls like you and RoC that want to fling shit instead of having real discussions.

#25 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES AT 2018-01-31 05:53 PM

You only get combative when we point out you are wrong, then you descend into ranting lunacy.

Grow up and learn to comprehend what you read, if you even get that far.

#29 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-31 06:54 PM | Reply

Jones,

Here's a piece of unsolicited advice: if you are going to make comments regarding the substance of the thread, take the time to read the embedded piece that the thread premised upon.

#30 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-31 06:57 PM | Reply

#30

That's like telling the red-headed stepchild that changing his hair color will reduce the beatings, let him continue to draw a huge target on himself every time he posts.

#31 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-31 07:06 PM | Reply

#28 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Living in his head is no fun at all. It's dark, dank, dim, it smells like Trump after a session in a Moscow hotel room... and the velvet Elvis wall hangings are atrocious!

#32 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-31 07:27 PM | Reply

But, he did nothing to help us create a more perfect Union.

#2 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2018-01-31 11:07 AM | FLAG: ... and you think obama did???

#8 | Posted by MSgt

If you believe the Founding Fathers like I do that We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness...

Then, yes, of course Obama brought us closer to that more Perfect Union.

Obama was a fine man, a wonderful father, an example to our youth and honorable President.

Not one single investigation of him in 8 years.

Not one.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-31 07:58 PM | Reply

Then, yes, of course Obama brought us closer to that more Perfect Union.

How you can even utter that is beyond me. He brought us no where near a unified nation. He did more to divide this nation than anyone in history. The fact you cant see that means you are partisan beyond help.

#35 | Posted by boaz at 2018-01-31 08:42 PM | Reply

How you can even utter that is beyond me. He brought us no where near a unified nation. He did more to divide this nation than anyone in history. The fact you cant see that means you are partisan beyond help.

Posted by boaz at 2018-01-31 08:42 PM | Reply

No Sir. It was people like YOU who tried to divide the nation that is responsible. NOT Obama.

#36 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-01-31 08:59 PM | Reply

He did more to divide this nation than anyone in history.
#35 | POSTED BY BOAZ

You're putting Obama's legacy up against South Carolinian congressman John McQueen?

Do so at your own peril.

#37 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-01-31 09:11 PM | Reply

Hahaha, a dog shits on your floor 364 days in a row and doesn't shit on your floor today and you congratulate the dog!

hahahahaah

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-31 09:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

How you can even utter that is beyond me. He brought us no where near a unified nation. He did more to divide this nation than anyone in history. The fact you cant see that means you are partisan beyond help.
#35 | Posted by boaz

Alexander H. Stephens laughs at your comment.

#39 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-31 09:17 PM | Reply

SOTU==STFU

#40 | Posted by Snowfake at 2018-01-31 09:24 PM | Reply

He did more to divide this nation than anyone in history. The fact you cant see that means you are partisan beyond help.

#35 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Says the rightwing media knob gobbler.

#41 | Posted by jpw at 2018-01-31 09:40 PM | Reply

Boaz,

Obama was very divisive. No doubt. But Trump is more divisive.

#42 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-31 09:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

His presence was "divisive" for many.

But his actions weren't unless, as already stated, he was viewed as "divisive" willfully.

He was a good politician and I'd rate him as about as divisive as any other good politician, ie he rankles you a bit because he outmaneuvers you on occasion.

#43 | Posted by jpw at 2018-01-31 09:56 PM | Reply

#43

That is as good a description of Obama as any I have read on the DR.

Obama from the start was the epitome of the "political animal" as first theorized by Aristotle, and he embodied the "legislator of the middle condition...viewed, rightfully or wrongfully in the class of citizens which is most secure in a state, for they do not, like the poor, covet their neighbors' goods; nor do others covet theirs, as the poor covet the goods of the rich; and as they neither plot against others, nor are themselves plotted against, they pass through life safely. Wisely then did Phocylides pray- 'Many things are best in the mean; I desire to be of a middle condition in my city.'"

-Aristotle, The Polis, from Πολιτικά ("Politics").

Obama captured this aesthetic better than anyone since, believe it or not, Reagan, and exploited it all the way to becoming POTUS.

#44 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-31 10:14 PM | Reply

"His presence was "divisive" for many."

JeffJ didn't rule that out.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-31 10:40 PM | Reply

- blatantly steal my material

lmao! As if he had any anyone would want to steal.

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-31 11:21 PM | Reply

#45 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Just curious Snoofy did you sit like the rest of the Black Caucus when America learned African American and Hispanic unemployment are at all time lows?
twitter.com

Just how vested are you in African Americans when you can't even applaud their success?

Not much, I suppose, from now on Snoofy when you use African Americans in your diatribes about wealth inequality, you might as well be talking out of your keister.

Obama was very divisive. No doubt. But Trump is more divisive.
#42 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

How? I can't think of more divisive than "punishing our enemies" .... but hey I am sure snoofy can find something.

Sure Trump is divisive, when one side promotes church, family, police, military and the national anthem as good things, and the other side considers they are from a bygone era, what do think will happen? division ... hello ... How does one approach extremism without being divisive? Just curious...

#47 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2018-01-31 11:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

#47 the long awaited "Whatabout Snoofy" post.

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-31 11:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"from now on Snoofy when you use African Americans in your diatribes about wealth inequality, you might as well be talking out of your keister."

Those diatribes are about racism, not wealth inequality. The wealthy inequality is a consequence of racism.

Also, those numbers are cited from Nicholas Kristof's August 30, 2014 Op-Ed in the New York Times, and while I'm sure you'd equate the Gray Lady to talking out of your keister, it's an article that describes, and should be read, people like you:

"a 2011 study by scholars at Harvard and Tufts found that whites, on average, believed that anti-white racism was a bigger problem than anti-black racism."

Give it a read, it's quite thought provoking.
www.nytimes.com

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-31 11:53 PM | Reply

Andrea should have her own TV show called, "I'll Buh-lieve Anything a Rwinger Tells Me!".

What a maroon.

www.youtube.com

#50 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-01 12:00 AM | Reply

Sure Trump is divisive, when one side promotes church, family, police, military and the national anthem as good things, and the other side considers they are from a bygone era, what do think will happen? division ... hello ... How does one approach extremism without being divisive? Just curious...

LOL

Let's see, the first two are hollow and certainly aren't practiced as they're preached.

The next two are just political footballs your team kicks around when needed but otherwise, pffft.

And the national anthem was just the diversion from the real issue people latched on to in order to avoid thinking too deeply about what the actual issue was/is.

#51 | Posted by jpw at 2018-02-01 12:18 AM | Reply

Andrea should have her own TV show called, "I'll Buh-lieve Anything a Rwinger Tells Me!".

Corky should know, having starred in "Life Goes On".

#52 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-02-01 12:27 AM | Reply

Damn, you're getting abusive.

#53 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-02-01 12:32 AM | Reply

Boaz, when all you have are lies, you can't be defending a very good position.
Why lie in the headline?

#54 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2018-02-01 06:44 AM | Reply

#54,

Well, I did mistate the headline and it wasnt intended as a lie.

The link was posted for people to go look at. Even in the description, it said what the article was about, people who WATCHED the speech.

Alot of people here are trigged just because they see "Boaz" and they break their knees from the jerking..

#55 | Posted by boaz at 2018-02-01 09:27 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#53

I am frankly getting tired of all of the ad hominem attacks certain posters make on everyone who dares to disagree with their narrative. If it was only one poster doing this then it would be easier to ignore, but the fact that these comments go unpunished now has ignited several mini-me's whose first resort (not having anything substantive to retort with) is a personal attack/assigning positions/strawman posts that disrupt the discussion that some of us are having.

#56 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-02-01 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

- the ad hominem attacks

Says the consistent purveyor of such gems as, "MaryTylerDouche".

Your hypocrisy is blatant.

#57 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-01 01:37 PM | Reply

"I am frankly getting tired of all of the ad hominem attacks certain posters make on everyone who dares to disagree with their narrative."

Life goes on, Corky.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-01 01:38 PM | Reply

lol!

#59 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-01 01:40 PM | Reply

"Obama from the start was the epitome of the "political animal" as first theorized by Aristotle,"

Righto, the harder you try to appear intelligent, the more you reveal your truly embarrassing ignorance: Aristotle says human beings are political by definition, they are political animals (no less than rational ones). Indeed, he is reported as saying that "to live alone one must be either a beast or a god."

"and he embodied the "legislator of the middle condition...viewed, rightfully or wrongfully in the class of citizens which is most secure in a state, for they do not, like the poor, covet their neighbors' goods; nor do others covet theirs, as the poor covet the goods of the rich; and as they neither plot against others, nor are themselves plotted against, they pass through life safely. Wisely then did Phocylides pray- 'Many things are best in the mean; I desire to be of a middle condition in my city.'""

You quote this but obviously have no idea what it means. For Aristotle, human excellence (arete) was to be found in the Golden Mean between extremes. So, the condition of being secure in the state in the way described here, for Aristotle, marked the best kind of citizenship (much as it must be an affront to your own "rugged individualism", a creed so laughably simplistic, by the way, that Aristotle refuted it thousands of years before brain scrambled grunts like you decided it was fashionable).

#60 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-02-02 03:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"...and the other side considers they are from a bygone era..." - #47 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2018-01-31 11:30 PM

A "bygone era"?

You mean like "Make America Great Again"

That kind of "bygone era"?

#61 | Posted by Hans at 2018-02-02 08:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Well, I did mistate the headline and it wasnt intended as a lie." - #55 | Posted by pfc. boazo at 2018-02-01 09:27 AM | Reply | Flag: Now Comes the Part Where We Throw Our Heads Back and Laugh!

#62 | Posted by Hans at 2018-02-02 08:41 AM | Reply

The deeper meanings of the words Trump spoke would make most Americans vehemently disagree with Trump's SOTU speech. He wants all federal employees to lose civil service protections? Do any of you other posters understand why we enacted civil service protections? It wasn't really to benefit the employees. It was to end an era of almost total corruption. When every federal job is subject to the whims of elected officials then who will have those jobs? Hint: campaign contributors. Trump's speech, in many ways, was his announcement that he does intend to destroy the system we have depended on for 100 years to provide us with honest public servants instead of political lackeys appointed to reward the supporters of elected officials. Tammany Hall is what he is recommending.

#63 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-02 08:50 AM | Reply

"So, the condition of being secure in the state in the way described here, for Aristotle, marked the best kind of citizenship (much as it must be an affront to your own "rugged individualism", a creed so laughably simplistic, by the way, that Aristotle refuted it thousands of years before brain scrambled grunts like you decided it was fashionable)."

Read your post after I posted my own. Absolutely fantastic, probably the best post of this week. Your comment about "rugged individualism" is incredible truth that more Americans need to understand.

#64 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-02 08:52 AM | Reply

#61 | POSTED BY HANS

No, thats not what "by gone era", means, its antipodal to "again". It means a distant past.... never to happen again, as in nostalgia.....

Which is why its offending ...

Google is your friend .... have at it...

The deeper meanings of the words Trump spoke would make most Americans vehemently disagree with Trump's SOTU speech. ~ Danni

Pro tip Danni, when searching for deeper meaning in someone else's words, that deeper meaning is your model of the world ...

#65 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2018-02-02 09:03 AM | Reply

" It means a distant past.... never to happen again, as in nostalgia....." - #65 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2018-02-02 09:03 AM

Yep.

Like the nostalgia of "Make America Great Again"

Which sounds like "Make America White Again" to more than just a few people.

You know, a bygone era.

Besides, some of us feel that America has always been great, yet filled with many challenges.

Just 2 reasons why it is offending ...

#66 | Posted by Hans at 2018-02-02 11:50 AM | Reply

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