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Wednesday, January 31, 2018

Taliban fighters, whom US-led forces spent billions of dollars trying to defeat, are now openly active in 70% of Afghanistan, a BBC study has found. Months of research across the country show how areas the Taliban threaten or control have surged since foreign combat troops left in 2014. The Afghan government played down the report, saying it controls most areas. But recent attacks claimed by Taliban and Islamic State militants have killed scores in Kabul and elsewhere.

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The BBC investigation - conducted during late 2017 - provides a rare snapshot of the security situation in every Afghan district between 23 August and 21 November.

A network of BBC reporters across Afghanistan spoke to more than 1,200 individual local sources, in every one of the country's 399 districts, to build up a comprehensive picture of all militant attacks over that period.

These conversations happened either in person or by telephone and all information was checked with at least two and often as many as six other sources. In some cases BBC reporters even went to local bus stations to find people travelling in from remote and inaccessible districts in order to double check the situation there.

The results show that about 15 million people - half the population - are living in areas that are either controlled by the Taliban or where the Taliban are openly present and regularly mount attacks.

The extent to which they have pushed beyond their traditional southern stronghold into eastern, western and northern parts of the country is clearly visible. Areas that have fallen to the Taliban since 2014 include places in Helmand province like Sangin, Musa Qala and Nad-e Ali, which foreign forces fought and died to bring under government control after US-led troops had driven the Taliban from power in 2001. More than 450 British troops died in Helmand between 2001 and 2014.

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"We live with constant fear. Whenever the government side starts fighting with the Taliban, we're caught in the crossfire, bringing life to a standstill. It's quiet at the moment but the Taliban are still here."

In Taliban-controlled Sangin, father of eight Mohammad Reza, described life as "better" under the militants because there was peace.

"It only got violent when the government forces arrived."
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Why am I not surprised?

#1 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-01-31 04:12 AM | Reply

why are you not surprised? ... because you live for war...mostly somebody else's.

#2 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-01-31 04:51 AM | Reply

because you live for war...mostly somebody else's.

It is indeed a shame that brave Texans have to fight in such loser wars. Which is why most Texans believe Texas would be better off if it wasn't part of the union.

#3 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-01-31 05:05 AM | Reply

#3 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-01-31

If you really lived in Texas you would know most Texans do not want to leave the union.

just because a blow hard Texan that used to post here would whine about wanting to leave the Union he did not represent most Texans

#4 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2018-01-31 06:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

#4 | Posted by PunchyPossum

Couldn't agree more. I suspect he probably lives in Pakistan.

#5 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-01-31 09:12 AM | Reply

I suspect he probably lives in Pakistan.
#5 | Posted by GalaxiePete

More likely Moscow.

#6 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2018-01-31 10:16 AM | Reply

And so are the days of our lives...

#7 | Posted by humtake at 2018-01-31 11:58 AM | Reply

As the world turns

#8 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2018-01-31 12:30 PM | Reply

If it weren't for the great opium profits i would say let those backwards savages build thier own future.

Why should we care about ME shitholes...time to cut loses and please don't try to come here when it fails either. Bush and Obama have tried enough solutions...even russia tried one. Heroin is a hell of a cia sponsored drug.

#9 | Posted by mutant at 2018-01-31 01:23 PM | Reply

Well its looks like its time for us to go kill some more people so that those whom have already died didn't do it in vain. We must avenge their deaths with some more death.

#10 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2018-01-31 02:54 PM | Reply

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"Why should we care about ME shitholes...
#9 | POSTED BY MUTANT"

Maybe we shouldn't, but the oligarchs in this country do because of oil. They choose to kill and be killed in the ME because they don't like alternative energy sources. (More like, they don't make money off of alternative energy sources.)

#11 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2018-01-31 03:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I suspect he probably lives in Pakistan.
#5 | Posted by GalaxiePete

And even if his body isn't in Pakistanstan his head is always there.

You know ... just like most Texans from Texas.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-31 03:36 PM | Reply

Time to admit the US Military is impotent and withdraw completely. There is nothing to be gained for ordinary Americans by military meddling in the ME. Those that want to meddle should pay for mercenaries themselves.

#13 | Posted by bored at 2018-01-31 04:50 PM | Reply

No foreign army has ever been able to control Afghanistan . Never happened, never will.

#14 | Posted by rukiddin at 2018-01-31 08:34 PM | Reply

Couldn't agree more. I suspect he probably lives in Pakistan.

#5 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE AT 2018-01-31 09:12 AM

LMAO, glad you figured that out but you are a little late to that party, most of us have known that JTosseRigelMain was a Paki since the day he created this sock puppet.

I personally can't wait to see how many posts we get from TonyTripoli now that JTosseRigelMain is back from his "vacation."

#15 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-31 09:16 PM | Reply

As I guessed, most people here are like this:

www.jokesoftheday.net

No useful input... just put your head in the ground and pretend this isn't happening. Typical.

Also typical is the IGNORANCE on display... Afghanistan is NOT part of the Middle East, you baboons. It's in Central Asia. And it doesn't have any oil.

No foreign army has ever been able to control Afghanistan .

Chengis Khan did it brilliantly. So did Alexander.

#16 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-02-01 12:33 AM | Reply

The Pentagon hid all the data that suggests a kick in the teeth for the "mighty" US army. According to them everything is just fine.

Thankfully we have these snitches like the BBC who have published the truth.

Don't like it? Makes your blood boil?

Then pick up a rifle and join your useless soldiers in Afghanistan and show them how it's done! Flapping your gums around here isn't doing anyone any good.

#17 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-02-01 12:41 AM | Reply

i.dawn.com

haha!

#18 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-02-01 03:04 AM | Reply

"JTosseRigelMain"

Brother under the hood.

#19 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-02-01 04:42 AM | Reply

Chengis Khan did it brilliantly. So did Alexander.

#16 | POSTED BY J_TREMAIN

True, but not all of the Genghis or Alexander conquered lands was taken at the point of a weapon. Some territories joined them voluntarily, since the new rulers were not asking them to accept a new religion or even change local control of their territories.

BTW, I've told you about using history. Modern Americans don't read history and they have very little patience for learning anything from it.

#20 | Posted by kudzu at 2018-02-01 07:35 AM | Reply

BTW, I've told you about using history. Modern Americans don't read history and they have very little patience for learning anything from it.

Gawd you're right.... I've been so so stupid.

I apologize.

www.youtube.com

#21 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-02-01 07:55 AM | Reply

True, but not all of the Genghis or Alexander conquered lands was taken at the point of a weapon. Some territories joined them voluntarily, since the new rulers were not asking them to accept a new religion or even change local control of their territories.

#20 | POSTED BY KUDZU AT 2018-02-01 07:35 AM | FLAG:

Kind of meaningless when the other option is be sold into slavery or simply exterminated.

#22 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-02-01 01:59 PM | Reply

#16 muh bad....on the geographical location but not the shithole observation.

Just as ohio is called midwest...makes no sense.

I'll go back do washing dishes now.

#23 | Posted by mutant at 2018-02-01 06:08 PM | Reply

Trump spent all of 2016 running against Republican Toadies. Then, after he surprised himself and won, he became another Republican Toadie. Watching this schizoid administration try to rule is like watching the world's worst comedian die on stage, only not for 15 minutes, but for a year and counting (Matt Taibbi).

Afghanistan is as big a mess as ever. Syria and Iraq are getting worse. Richie Rich city dwellers, the very demographic midwest Trump supporters hate, have never had it so good. Meanwhile, on NPR, we have been treated to an endless stream of Trump lovers. To the chagrin of McConnell & Ryan Trump's support remains largely unchanged while one Republican after another bits the dust (including McConnell & Ryan). 29 Republicans are leaving.

Mueller drags on till November, no matter what. But as long as Republicans control the Senate there will be no impeachment. Three more years of Trump brain farts!

#24 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-02-01 09:35 PM | Reply

It would be nice if Mueller would conduct his "interview" with Trump, under oath and in front of a Grand Jury.

Yes, I know. Wishful thinking. Investigations have to proceed in increments. But in the meantime, Trump is on a vengeful rampage to destroy his tormentors by burning the whole house down.

I fear that we are going to run out of time.

#25 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-02-02 02:46 AM | Reply

the middle east.... (and other names for it according to the Texan, FKA whatever usernames HANs has archived) ...

just pull out -
- your junk is in a meat grinder
- keep what is left and
- hope you can reconstruct!

Sheeit - (I said this since @ 2004ish here)....insert insanity definition

#26 | Posted by mutant at 2018-02-02 08:25 PM | Reply

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