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Tuesday, January 30, 2018

Tiffany's and tents. Neiman Marcus and needles. Macy's and mental illness. A San Francisco Chronicle columnist writes about a hotel manager who struggles with his customers' number one complaint -- the sad homeless population. Making it worse is the amount of wealth that surrounds those who live on the streets. The hotel manager said he has stopped trying to explain away the city's unwillingness to address the problem. One reviewer on TripAdvisor wrote glowingly about his hotel's pool, its proximity to the cable cars and the easy walk to the Ferry Building. But it ended with a jolt. "Seeing homeless men in wheelchairs without shoes in the winter, women with infants on the streets, young men and women on the streets doing drugs, it was painful," wrote the reviewer. The manager responded: "I am sorry about the street scene ... But unfortunately our city has failed to address the issue."

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Perhaps California should worry more about it's income inequality and less about waiters giving customers straws....

#1 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2018-01-30 10:19 AM | Reply

Perhaps California should worry more about it's income inequality and less about waiters giving customers straws....

#1 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2018

Perhaps you should stop supporting a corrupt sociopath who, by the way, thinks that these poor people should eat sh-- and die.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-30 11:42 AM | Reply

Perhaps you should stop supporting a corrupt sociopath who, by the way, thinks that these poor people should eat sh-- and die.

Perhaps....

But do you believe Trump created this problem?

I support this mess more by paying taxes ....

Who had more of an impact on the poor eating sh-- and dying?

Moonbeam?
Gavin?
Trump?
Liberal policies that created the problem in SFO and California in General?
Sanctuary City? State?

Help me understand your poorly constructed thought. Looking at your posts, I am not confident, but there might be a kernel of an idea on how to address this without making it worse. Again I am not confident but at least try, I am rooting for you.

In San Jose we are putting up tiny homes for the homeless, you can't make this up. Recreating the "projects" Democrats were so fond of, for gathering up all the AfricanAmericans and forcing them into huge apartment buildings...

What were the thinking? If that is the help you are thinking about, trust me, they don't want it.....

Speaking of Sh--

LiberalTechiesInSFO must support the idea that the poor should eat sh-- and die, since there is a website to help them find it.
mochimachine.org

#3 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2018-01-30 12:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 6

Perhaps....

#3 | Posted by AndreaMackris

There's no perhaps to it. Whitechapel is not safe until the Ripper is gone.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-30 12:28 PM | Reply

And the Ripper will never go as long as he has loyal fans.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-30 12:29 PM | Reply

I value life stories. Each poor person you meet has one. Do you know even one?

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-30 12:36 PM | Reply

Delusional Zed doesn't care about anything except his psychotic fixation on everything Trump.

#7 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-01-30 12:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#7 | Posted by SheepleSchism at

What do to about Trump is the central political question of this decade....To honest citizens.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-30 12:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

#3 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS gets an FF for sheer ignorance regarding the federal taxes California pays. Our subsidies to Mississippi and other sh**hole states could eliminate the homeless problems in SF.

#9 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-30 04:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This has been the bay area travesty since I moved there briefly just before the 2001 bubble economics destroyed the local tech industry. The conservatives cut all aid to homeless people, began aggressively arresting people in abandoned homes and herding everyone into downtown. This was before gay rights - my work group were terrified as the job pool shrank so quickly leaving everyone unemployed. People were being left to default loans on crappy houses in crappy neighborhoods. Even my roommate could not get inside of SF Art Institute because the fountain entrance was a blanket of angry homeless protesters. The local news was non-stop riots. I had visitors from England who wanted to experience SF, nearly every block we were stopped be desperate people.

The building contractors in SF are anti-gay. In Oregon I happened to work with the brother of the largest one - he particularly hates lesbians. So many businesses were under threat of removal because of these conditions for years, and with the waves of homeless it became impossible for many to effectively operate.

Then the Eastern and Texas investment groups swoop in and steal everything. They have zero interest in our left coast vibe, style or manners. It's no longer a pleasant place - the pleasant people have all been evicted.

#10 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2018-01-30 05:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

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he particularly hates lesbians.
#10 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT

Then he was definitely a closeted homosexual.

#11 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-30 05:08 PM | Reply

What to do about Trump?

Get behind him and back his policies.

The Dems would be giddy if they had a President who could give the SotU Address that Trump will be able to give tonight.

This in the face of unprecedented opposition.

Imagine how much better the United States of America would be doing if people where behind him and supported his policies.

#12 | Posted by sawdust at 2018-01-30 05:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

LiberalTechiesInSFO

Whenever I read a compound noun like this I imagine that someone is initiating a class. lol it still works, if read as a lazy pseudocode..

#13 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-01-30 05:13 PM | Reply

What to do about Trump?

Get behind him and back his policies.

The Dems would be giddy if they had a President who could give the SotU Address that Trump will be able to give tonight.

This in the face of unprecedented opposition.

Imagine how much better the United States of America would be doing if people where behind him and supported his policies.

#12 | Posted by sawdust at 2018-01-30 05:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

Where was that attitude when Obama was President???

#14 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-01-30 05:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Get behind him (Trump) and back his policies.

#12 | Posted by sawdust at 2018

I have higher standards than you do. Much, much higher.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-30 06:02 PM | Reply

Where was that attitude when Obama was President???

#14 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018

Now, now. Obama was a disciplined Black man and Donald is an ill-mannered lout. What did you expect them to do? Forget they are white?

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-30 06:06 PM | Reply

he particularly hates lesbians.
#10 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT
Then he was definitely a closeted homosexual.
#11 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-30 05:08 PM

Irish Catholic, so, yes.

#17 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2018-01-30 06:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Imagine how much better the United States of America would be doing if people where behind him and supported his policies.
#12 | POSTED BY SAWDUST

Looking at the state of modern Russia; backing trump policy would certainly turn this place into a bigger shi**ole than it already is.

#18 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-30 06:50 PM | Reply

I won a Hearst journalism competition in 1988 and was flown to San Francisco to compete with around 20 other college reporters. As part of the event I got to be part of Bay to Breakers while I was reporting on it.

There were a huge number of homeless in downtown San Francisco, some of whom deeply in the throes of mental illness. I remember one who was practically baying at the moon. You could hear him for blocks.

It's a shame there's a problem there today, but our country's social safety net for the mentally ill is woefully inadequate. There also aren't enough programs for the homeless in general.

We can rip California for this, but it's not like other parts of the country are doing much better. Some cities even bus their homeless to other places.

#19 | Posted by rcade at 2018-01-30 06:59 PM | Reply

The Dems would be giddy if they had a President who could give the SotU Address that Trump will be able to give tonight.

Nice display of blind partisanship.

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-01-30 07:07 PM | Reply

We can rip California for this, but it's not like other parts of the country are doing much better.

Yea. But California is a liberal, democratic state. So people have higher expectations for the state.

Unlike conservative, republican states. Which are doing so abysmal no one expects anything from them other than meth addiction and incest.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-01-30 07:11 PM | Reply

The Dems would be giddy if they had a President who could give the SotU Address that Trump will be able to give tonight.

Somebody started drinking early. Pace yourself, dude. You will be passed out before the speech is over.

#22 | Posted by rcade at 2018-01-30 09:12 PM | Reply

So Repubs answer to the visible misery of the poor in the streets is to deport them. That's so telling that they care about the visibility and how it affects profit, as opposed to caring about the misery.

#23 | Posted by Snowfake at 2018-01-31 10:04 AM | Reply

How's about a crisp twenty for every pound of plastic straw litter that is picked up.from the slobs who toss them.

Incentives work wonders in this country-permanent hand outs not so good.

#24 | Posted by mutant at 2018-01-31 02:44 PM | Reply

What to do about Obama?
Get behind him and back his policies.
The Repubs would be giddy if they had a President who could give the SotU Address that Obama will be able to give tonight.
This in the face of unprecedented opposition.
Imagine how much better the United States of America would be doing if people where behind him and supported his policies.

#12 | Posted by sawdust

Doesn't look so rosy anymore, does it Sawbust? Let's all remember who started this massive polarization.

#25 | Posted by CrisisStills at 2018-02-01 08:22 AM | Reply

I don't think I have ever been to any major city where there weren't any homeless.,,, droves of them. Here in the Nation's Capital they sleep in the metro shelters. Its not just SF but any major city because that is where are the resources are. If you want people to migrate out of the area move the services to the location far enough away. Small price to pay for not sullying the view from your fern bar boutique. This has repbliclown stink all over it... they want stuff but they don't want to pay for it. All the want to do is bitch about how all these people are trying to take their money.

Besides they are not bitching about the homeless there are plenty of homeless out there who are working during the day... just can't afford a place to live is all. What they are bellyaching about are the mentally ill freakazoid sub species that roam the streets on slimey filthy feets....and make them uncomfortable about their humanity... or lack thereof.

Its all about image... I mean its okay to be homeless and all... but do you have to be so coo coo?

#26 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2018-02-01 08:51 AM | Reply

This has repbliclown stink all over it... they want stuff but they don't want to pay for it.

You just described Democrats/Liberals to a tee..

Anyhoo,

RCADE is right. Alot of homeless are mentally ill, especially in the big cities. There needs to be a focus on where to put these people. Do we force them into sanitariums? You liberals would bitch about that. But what do you do?

And what about the not crazy homeless? How do you teach an adult to be self sufficient? How do you teach to not be a burden on society?

and make them uncomfortable about their humanity

What do you do when the money runs out? You know, sometimes people give without telling you, so by the time you come around with your charity guilt trip, they are already out of money. What do you do then? Do you look at the individual? When do you tell them they need to be self sufficient and they need to start making better life choices?

Or what about those "It's my choice to be homeless" or the "I just cant live with other people" types? If you have a right to be homeless, does the community have a "right" to tell you, "not here"?

#27 | Posted by boaz at 2018-02-01 10:51 AM | Reply

Let's all remember who started this massive polarization.

#25 | Posted by CrisisStills

Newt Gingrich.

www.thenation.com

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-01 01:20 PM | Reply

Yeah. In my opinion San Francisco is the most polarized city in America. And it is not leftwing/rightwing polarization. It is have and have-not. I've spent a lot of time in San Francisco over the last twenty years. My brother, my sister, and my three grown children have all been living there off and on. It is a GREAT city and it is a sad wasteland. Live there for a month and you will know exactly what I mean.

#29 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-02-01 01:24 PM | Reply

But what do you do?

#27 | Posted by boaz

As for the homeless the Republicans have assured us that the Invisible Hand of the Markets will take care of them.

Are there no workhouses? Are the private prisons all full?

Or perhaps they could just die and thereby decrease the surplus population.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-01 01:26 PM | Reply

Come on Donnerboy. Let's be real. Liberals control EVERYTHING in San Francisco. Homelessness in that city can not be laid at the feet of the GOP. Other than to troll rightwing assholes.

#31 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-02-01 01:38 PM | Reply

--As for the homeless the Republicans have assured us that the Invisible Hand of the Markets will take care of them.

Frisco has been run by Dems for decades, and you want to blame Republicans?

Maybe Nancy Pelosi--net worth $300 million--could donate some of her considerable wealth to homeless shelters.

#32 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-02-01 01:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- troll rightwing assholes.

Which reminds me of my first stroll through that wonderful city back in the early '80's... wandering along, a young dude from Texas enamored with the sights and sounds; Haight Ashbury with a few left-over hippies, the Wharf where I almost puked at the smell, beautiful, crooked Lombard Street, the Castro District full of gay guys.... where I suddenly felt my ass being pinched!

I looked behind me expecting some fairy boy, but instead there was a big biker looking guy, all mustachioed and in black leathers and bold tats... I just kept on walking.

And I haven't seen R0C since.

#33 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-01 01:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Frisco has been run by Dems for decades, and you want to blame Republicans?

#32 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-02-01 01:42 PM | FLAG:

Who turned the mentally ill out onto the streets? Republicans. Who is trying to defund mental healthcare to this day? Republicans. Who started massive wars that produced a fresh bumper crop of traumatized vets unable to function in society? Republicans. Who deregulated the country into the Great Recession? Republicans.

#34 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-02-01 01:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

--=Who turned the mentally ill out onto the streets? Republicans.

Reagan, at the urging of progressives, the ACLU, mental health activists, etc.

#35 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-02-01 01:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Reagan, at the urging of progressives, the ACLU, mental health activists, etc.

#35 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-02-01 01:58 PM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 1

Really? There was a widespread "turn them out into the streets" coalition composed of all those groups? How about that.

#36 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-02-01 02:20 PM | Reply

While it is true that the psychiatric community at the time admitted that they were only able to drug these patients, not cure them, the political community, particularly the right, used that admission to call for the halt of spending on said patients.

#37 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-01 02:25 PM | Reply

The Governor is Democrat. Both houses of the legislature is overwhelmingly Democrat. If the Democrats wanted to take on the issue of treatment for the mentally ill homeless, we could have done for more than five years now. But we have chosen not to. This is on us. The problem may have started with Governor Reagan, but for a long time this shame has been on us.

And I'm fuckin' sick of everyone passing the buck. It is easier to point fingers than it is to spend the money to fix it.

#38 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-02-01 02:33 PM | Reply

Really? There was a widespread "turn them out into the streets" coalition composed of all those groups? How about that.
#36 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN

Doctors & politicians oversold their capabilities for money ... how about that?

HOW RELEASE OF MENTAL PATIENTS BEGAN
Dr. Bertram S. Brown, a psychiatrist and Federal official who was instrumental in shaping the community center legislation in 1963, agreed that Presidents Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson were to some extent misled by the mental health community and Government bureaucrats. 'The bureaucrat-psychiatrists realized that there was political and financial overpromise,'' he said.
...
'We knew that there were not enough resources in the community to do the whole job, so that some people would be in the streets facing society head on and questions would be raised about the necessity to send them back to the state hospitals,'' Dr. Brown said.

But, he continued, ''It happened much faster than we foresaw.'' The discharge of mental patients was accelerated in the late 1960's and early 1970's in some states as a result of a series of court decisions that limited the commitment powers of state and local officials.
www.nytimes.com

Who do you think brought the lawsuits to lower the ability to commit patients by state and local officials?

used that admission to call for the halt of spending on said patients. ~ Corky

The spending wasn't halted ...

#39 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2018-02-01 02:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- The spending wasn't halted ...

What a spectacular idiot you are. Spending was halted in many areas and cut significantly in others.

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-01 02:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The spending wasn't halted ..."

Not halted but federal dollars where cut back and states were expected to pick up the slack:

1981 Under President Ronald Reagan, the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act repeals Carter's community health legislation and establishes block grants for the states, ending the federal government's role in providing services to the mentally ill. Federal mental-health spending decreases by 30 percent.

1985 Federal funding drops to 11 percent of community mental-health agency budgets.

2009 In the aftermath of the Great Recession, states are forced to cut $4.35 billion in public mental-health spending over the next three years, the largest reduction in funding since deinstitutionalization.

www.motherjones.com

#41 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-01 02:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

--states are forced to cut $4.35 billion in public mental-health spending

California, alone, has a 7.5 billion surplus, thanks to the highest taxes in the nation.. Maybe they ought to spend some of that on the homeless, rather than bullet trains to nowhere.

#42 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-02-01 03:27 PM | Reply

California, alone, has a 7.5 billion surplus, thanks to the highest taxes in the nation.. Maybe they ought to spend some of that on the homeless, rather than bullet trains to nowhere.

#42 | Posted by nullifidian

Oh now we have a surplus? I thought last week we were going bankrupt again.

And oh by the way... California can do both. But, you knew that right?

The 2016-17 Budget
California Spending Plan
Other Major Provisions
Housing for the Homeless

No Place Like Home Program. The budget package establishes the $2 billion No Place Like Home Program to construct and rehabilitate permanent supportive housing for those with mental illness who are homeless. The program authorizes the issuance of bonds backed by personal income tax revenues raised under the Mental Health Services Act (Proposition 63 of 2004). These funds are allocated as follows:

$1.8 Billion for a Competitive Grant Program. The Department of Housing and Community Development (HCD) will administer a competitive grant program to fund construction and rehabilitation of supportive housing.
$200 Million on a Per Capita Basis. The HCD also will divide $200 million among counties to fund supportive housing projects based on counties' shares of the state's homeless population.

These programs will be administered over a number of years. The 2016–17 Budget Act appropriates $268 million and 10.4 positions at HCD for these purposes in 2016–17.

Emergency Solutions Grant Program. The budget package also allocates $35 million to HCD for the California Emergency Solutions Grant Program. Under this program, HCD will award grants to local governments and nonprofits to provide a variety of services to those who are homeless, including rapid rehousing, shelters, essential services, and homelessness prevention activities. In addition, the budget allocates $10 million to the Office of Emergency Services to fund specialized services for homeless youth in certain counties.

#43 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-01 03:34 PM | Reply

Maybe Nancy Pelosi--net worth $300 million--could donate some of her considerable wealth to homeless shelters.

#32 | Posted by nullifidian

Yeah!

And instead of wasting your life here maybe YOU could help out at the local soup kitchen.

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-01 03:36 PM | Reply

Homelessness in that city can not be laid at the feet of the GOP. Other than to troll rightwing assholes.

#31 | Posted by moder8

I didn't blame the Republicans but I have been told over and over by Republicans that it is not governments job to help the homeless because that why we have churches and charities (and I assume poorhouses and prisons) and so not to worry about the poor, the sick, the elderly and the homeless as the Invisible Hand of the Markets will take care of everything.

#45 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-01 03:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Donnerboy makes a good point. The blame lies with religious charities.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-01 03:43 PM | Reply

Republicans haven't had a mayor of San Francisco since 1964. But yeah, it's their fault.

#47 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-02-01 03:51 PM | Reply

The blame lies with religious charities.
#46 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Its illegal for them to house and feed the poor, its a liberal paradise remember....
www.abc2news.com

I am of the opinion Liberals don't even know what they are in favor of anymore.

#48 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2018-02-01 04:31 PM | Reply

But yeah, it's their fault.

#47 | Posted by nullifidian

I'm with you.

That whole 2009 Great Recession or Great Depression or whatever the Dems are making up now was all just a hoax by the Dems to make Bush look bad.

No way that Republicans had anything to do with the increase all the homeless everywhere in America.

You and I know better. These people brought it upon themselves... am I right? Bunch of Losers losing their jobs and mortgages? Just because they lost everything and ended up on the streets everywhere had nothing to do with that whole made up recession/depression/repression hoax.

And anyway that was obviously Obama's fault.

When I see them I like to ask them "how does it feel to be such a Loser"?

It's a real kick in the pants I tell you!

#49 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-01 04:57 PM | Reply

--That whole 2009 Great Recession or Great Depression or whatever the Dems are making up now was all just a hoax by the Dems to make Bush look bad.

What does that have do with 50+ years of democrat governance of San Francisco culminating into a homeless disaster?

#50 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-02-01 05:13 PM | Reply

--That whole 2009 Great Recession or Great Depression or whatever the Dems are making up now was all just a hoax by the Dems to make Bush look bad.

What does that have do with 50+ years of democrat governance of San Francisco culminating into a homeless disaster?

#50 | Posted by nullifidian

I don't know. YOU are the one that said it did. Maybe YOU can explain why YOU say that.

Pretty sure that 50 years ago and up until just about 10 years ago the homeless problem was nothing like it is now.

So since the homeless problems really began to escalate around 2008-9 don't you think it had more likely to do with the recent economic stagnation of the last decade due to the Great Recession rather than what happened some 20-50 years ago?

A reasonable person would think so.

Are you a reasonable person?

#51 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-01 05:33 PM | Reply

--since the homeless problems really began to escalate around 2008-9

Isn't that when Obama assumed office?

#52 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-02-01 05:53 PM | Reply

Isn't that when Obama assumed office?

#52 | Posted by nullifidian

Oh man. Can't fool you!

It also coincides with the Recession.

Did you also notice how Obama, even with Republicans hounding and obstructing him every step of the way he was able to turn over to Trump an economy that was back on it's feet and well into recovery?

Did you also notice that the State Governments suffered too and many almost went bankrupt.

Did you also notice that California actually has a budget surplus now finally a(after many deficit years) (why yes you did notice that!) and so can finally attend to the homeless problem that has developed in our state?

So many many people (and governments) who lost everything are still recovering even today.

Also, did you notice that San Francisco and LA and many other California cities have the perfect weather for the homeless to be able to survive on the streets and not actually freeze to death in winter?

But, I am sure you are aware of all that and I am sure it has nothing to do with anything.

It's just easier and more fun to say it is them dang liberals again.

#53 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-01 06:27 PM | Reply

I am curious if the homeless situation in San Diego is the fault of Democrats who ran the city for like one year out of the past sixty.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-01 06:41 PM | Reply

I am curious if the homeless situation in San Diego is the fault of Democrats who ran the city for like one year out of the past sixty.
#54 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

They sure as hell didn't help anything. But yes, nobody else here to blame other than those who've been in charge the (seemingly) entire time (i.e., Repubs).

#55 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-02-01 06:43 PM | Reply

I am of the opinion Liberals don't even know what they are in favor of anymore.

#48 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

As a group we may not, individually we do.

That's what separates liberals and conservatives; we aren't told what to be in favor of.

The homelessness problem stems from 1; California subsidizes shitholes like Mississippi and 2; great weather.

#56 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-02-01 06:56 PM | Reply

What does that have do with 50+ years of democrat governance of San Francisco culminating into a homeless disaster?

#50 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-02-01 05:13 PM | REPLY

The party in control of a city can magically make a city recession proof? They can prevent or end wars? They can prevent a national housing bubble from bursting? They can, all by themselves, make up funding shortfalls for housing and mental health services? What a discovery!

#57 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-02-01 07:40 PM | Reply

--The party in control of a city can magically make a city recession proof?

They have had 50 years of democrat governance and the problem gets worse each year.

Fact!

#58 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-02-01 07:43 PM | Reply

#58 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-02-01 07:43 PM | FLAG:

Same can be said about San Diego, only under Republican control.

So what gives?

#59 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-02-01 07:45 PM | Reply

Nulli is just trolling, is what gives.

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-02 03:14 PM | Reply

#3 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Jesus Christ. If you ever want to read a warped view of reality, full of half truths and bullshit you need go no further than "POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS".

#61 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-02-02 03:57 PM | Reply

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