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Saturday, January 27, 2018

Far from backing Trump, Manhattan was one of the most heavily pro-Hillary Clinton counties in the country in 2016, supporting her by a 77-point margin. (In his home county, Trump won only 9.7 percent of the vote; for every 2.6 votes he got, a third-party candidate got one.) We don't hear much about how Manhattanites have responded to the first year of Trump's presidency, though, despite how much we've heard about how regions central to Trump's candidacy are still home to people who stand by their choice. There are a lot of reasons for not focusing on the views of people in Manhattan, including that the city is not without a voice in the media and that how it voted was not particularly surprising (compared to the fervent support Trump enjoyed in the Rust Belt).

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Nonetheless, we decided to see if voters in Clinton country stood by their candidate one year into Trump's tenure. We know Trump's supporters are sticking with him, but are Clinton's sticking with her? Is Trump convincing any opponents to rally to his cause?

Six of the eight counties that voted the most overwhelmingly for Clinton run in a line from The Bronx to Petersburg, Va. (The other two counties are San Francisco and Ogalala Lakota County, S.D.) On Wednesday of this week, I visited five of those counties and spoke with two dozen people who told me they'd voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. I asked them how they felt about Trump and if they stood by their 2016 vote.

With only one exception, they did.

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Have fun. :-)

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-26 11:15 AM | Reply

Losers....

#2 | Posted by sawdust at 2018-01-26 12:00 PM | Reply

"Losers...." - #2 | Posted by sawdust at 2018-01-26 12:00 PM

And, yet, there are 3,000,000 more of them than you.

#3 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-26 12:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

3

many of which in Manhattan.

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-26 12:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I still stand for my decision to vote for Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump has certainly not convinced me I should have voted for him. I didn't want Putin for President before the election and I don't want him to be President now. I suspect I never will want Putin to be my President.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-26 12:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"many of which in Manhattan." - #4 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-26 12:09 PM

There's not a single county in this country where Secretary Clinton didn't receive votes.

All told, more than 3,000,000 more votes than Trump received.

If you add in the votes received by Clinton and 3rd party candidates, 10,000,000 more people voted against Trump than voted for him.

#6 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-26 12:15 PM | Reply

"10,000,000 more people voted against Trump than voted for him."

10,000,000 strong and growing.

#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-26 12:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump voters are like battered and abused wives.

They know they should leave for their own physical and mental well being.

But they can't.

They have invested too much in of themselves this toxic relationship but they like all the attention, even if it is negative and destroying their souls.

They have gone to the dark side. And they like it there.

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-26 01:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

With her stalwart base she should run again in 2020.

#9 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-01-26 02:21 PM | Reply

#8

That's because she received "more than 3,000,000 more votes than Trump received."

#10 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-26 02:22 PM | Reply

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"With her stalwart base she should run again in 2020." - #9 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-01-26 02:21 PM

In terms of total votes received in a general election, the facts are:

1. Obama in 2008, with 69.5 million votes
2. Obama in 2012, with 65.9 million votes
3. Hillary Clinton in 2016, with 65.8 million votes
4. Trump in 2016, with 62.9 million votes
5. Bush in 2004, with 62 million votes
3rd in line indicates a pretty good "stalwart base."

#11 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-26 02:30 PM | Reply

#11

Great, in that case, she should definitely run again.

#12 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-26 02:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

If you add in the votes received by Clinton and 3rd party candidates, 10,000,000 more people voted against Trump than voted for him.

#6 | POSTED BY HANS AT 2018-01-26 12:15 PM | REPLY

You could also say all of those third party votes were also votes against Hillary.

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-01-27 11:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Hillary also beat Obama in Dem popular vote in 2008. Obama won, everybody celebrated.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-01-27 11:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hillary also beat Obama in Dem popular vote in 2008. Obama won, everybody celebrated.

#14 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Going with half truths and lies Sitz? You will make a great republican.

Everyone celebrated because it was a historic election and a feather in America's cap no matter who won.

Obama won more total votes than Clinton in the contests where they both appeared on the ballot. Clinton won the popular vote only if you count votes from Michigan, where Obama's name did not appear on the ballot.

www.factcheck.org

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-27 12:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Great, in that case, she should definitely run again. - #12 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-26 02:32 PM

As much as I would like to see our next president be a woman, I'd prefer one without the tagline -Defeated by Trump-

#16 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-27 12:59 PM | Reply

HRC was actually a pretty good candidate...on paper. She had the criminal things, but what candidate doesn't. I really liked some of her ideas.

If the Dems run a centrist candidate in 2020 who can capture the middle, I think they'll kill it.

#17 | Posted by madbomber at 2018-01-27 06:07 PM | Reply

So she still has LA, NY, Chic. and San Fran, the true America.

#18 | Posted by Crassus at 2018-01-28 02:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Losers....

#2 | Posted by sawdust

Says the Trump sycophant.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2018-01-28 02:57 AM | Reply

So she still has LA, NY, Chic. and San Fran, the true America.

#18 | Posted by Crassus

There is no "true America". Idiot.

Seriously. You're an idiot.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2018-01-28 02:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We can certainly count on jpw in repeating a worthless sound.

#21 | Posted by Crassus at 2018-01-28 04:49 AM | Reply

So she still has LA, NY, Chic. and San Fran, the true America.

As well as Seattle, Portland, Miami, Boston, Albuquerque, Denver, etc etc etc... the true America.

This game is stupid.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-01-28 05:31 AM | Reply

#15 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2018-01-27 12:51 PM| REPLY

Thank you for confirming she had more total votes. For Obama to have more votes, they have to discount an entire state.

Hillary, the most popular Dem loser of all time.

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-01-28 08:59 AM | Reply

I have a friend that was a DNC strategist during that time. It was remarkable to watch him smear Obama, then jump ship. We both had a really good laugh about it.

#24 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-01-28 08:59 AM | Reply

Poking fun at her aside, you have to respect that she's the ultimate political teflon don. Well, was, maybe beat by Trump, but nobody else has ever come close. Not even decades of Bill as her husband, and new stories about covering for people in the #MeToo era, can put a dent in her popularity. She's gotten to the point where she could murder a baby and drink it's spinal fluid for stem cells, and still beat the vast majority of candidates at least in the popular vote.

#25 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-01-28 09:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yes the Midwest is irrelevant. That's why she lost.

#27 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-29 03:29 PM | Reply

"That's why she lost." - #27 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-29 03:29 PM

While still receiving 3,000,000 more popular votes than the "winner."

#28 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-29 03:33 PM | Reply

She lost, get over it.

#29 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-29 04:01 PM | Reply

She lost, get over it.

#29 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Are sure? Humpy Trumpy doesn't seem to think so.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-29 04:08 PM | Reply

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