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Tuesday, January 23, 2018

While President Donald Trump relentlessly claims credit for the strengthening economy, the nation's economic growth is being driven overwhelmingly by the places that are most resistant to him. Counties that voted for Hillary Clinton against Trump in 2016 accounted for nearly three-fourths of the nation's increased economic output and almost two-thirds of its new jobs in the years leading up to his election, according to previously unpublished findings provided to CNN by the Metropolitan Policy Program at the Brookings Institution. ... [I]t is the diverse major metropolitan areas that voted in preponderant numbers against Trump that have clearly emerged as the nation's engines of growth. In the process, the big blue metros have pulled further away from the small town and rural communities that provide the foundation of Trump's support.

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This pattern creates what could be called the prosperity paradox. Even as economic growth is concentrating in Democratic-leaning metropolitan areas thriving in the information economy, Republicans rooted in non-urban communities largely excluded from those opportunities now control all the levers of power in Washington and in most states. That disjuncture raises a pointed long-term question: How long can the places that are mostly lagging in the economy dictate the terms of politics and policy to the places that are mostly succeeding?

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What??? You mean Trump lied again? No way!

#1 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-01-23 10:38 AM | Reply

This is how civil wars begin, taxation without representation. The Gross Oligarchs and Pedophiles passed their tax scam which taxes blue states more than red states in spite of blue states already paying in more than than they take in federal taxes. People are clueing into the GOP's efforts to damage blue states to further help red states that have been damaged by supply-side morons. Can Dems win enough seats in red states? It seems likely in 2018 and 2020, but for long-term gains, they have create a grassroots movement and invest in Democratic infrastructure in order to counter what the GrOPers have been doing since the 80s.

#2 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2018-01-23 10:51 AM | Reply

Finally the blue states will pay their fair share. If they are more wealthy, they can afford it. They didn't build that, etc.

I can't access the linked article without registering, were many of those counties with the most growth surrounding DC by any chance?

Maybe this is why rural areas didn't want 4 more years of the Obama economy.

#3 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-23 11:23 AM | Reply

Finally the blue states will pay their fair share. If they are more wealthy, they can afford it. They didn't build that, etc.
I can't access the linked article without registering, were many of those counties with the most growth surrounding DC by any chance?
Maybe this is why rural areas didn't want 4 more years of the Obama economy.

#3 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

You aren't even funny as a troll. Just kind of sad...

Also, they were spread out in Blue state metro areas. Man, it must hurt to be that stupid...

#4 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-23 11:32 AM | Reply

I typed this really slowly to help you understand:

Maybe this is why rural areas didn't want 4 more years of the Obama economy.

#5 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-23 11:48 AM | Reply

I typed this really slowly to help you understand:
Maybe this is why rural areas didn't want 4 more years of the Obama economy.

#5 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Rural areas are terrified of losing NAFTA. Rural areas don't have economic engines capable of large job growth. And rural areas are even losing those coal jobs Trump promised...

#6 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-23 11:58 AM | Reply

Is the only solution to a two tier world is to tax the skilled and put everyone else on welfare? Because that's all Obama/Clinton offered.

#7 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-23 12:07 PM | Reply

It's fun watching Democrats be creative in how they take credit for everything good and blame everyone else for anything that isn't. One notable example, Obama passes the ACA and makes it a law that you have to have it or something comparable. Then the Dems say how amazing it is that so many more people have health insurance now. Yeah, because it's a law and they have to.

Now, we have another notable example among many that shows they just keep doing it over and over again. Obama and the Dems fought as hard as they could to get rid of rural jobs. They were successful by the legislation they passed. And now they are touting how amazing it is that those jobs don't exist.

Seriously guys, can you at least tout something positive when its organic? Here's a basic analogy for you that hopefully even Dems can understand. If you pass a law that says every person must punch their boss or they will get thrown in jail, you can't then say how amazing it is that so many more bosses are being punched now. That's just terrible, TERRIBLE logic.

#8 | Posted by humtake at 2018-01-23 12:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is the only solution to a two tier world is to tax the skilled and put everyone else on welfare? Because that's all Obama/Clinton offered.
#7 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Troll or stupid? Can't quite tell...

How about we tax everyone the same but as you make more money, you pay a slightly higher portion of that pay difference?...Maybe just a few percentage points.

And how about we don't let people get off tax free, but instead tax people higher who refuse to work but just live off of investments or money from their parents?

The Obama/Clinton policy sounds good to me...

Instead, we get people like you and Trump who want to reward useless people who inherited their wealth and penalize the guy working 40-60 hours a week but getting paid less than $50K.

#9 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-23 12:16 PM | Reply

The right says education is for elitist... and now they wonder why the jobs are going to blue states.
Why would anybody want a crew of people who believe Jesus rode a dinosaur?

#10 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2018-01-23 12:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

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I've been hearing for as long as I've been living, that a progressive tax system is both desirable and fair. But now, because it apparently favors 'red' states it's a bad thing?

#11 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-23 12:25 PM | Reply

Duh. There is a reason blue states have Silicon Valleys and Beaches while red states have to beg politicians to subsidize their dirty, noncompetitive industries.

#12 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-23 12:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is like the 8,000,000th thread intended to start a blue/red state argument.

The facts are clear on this issue for the most part. And this thread, like the other 7,999,999, gets little argument on the fiscal and economic realities of this issue.

So why keep beating yourself off over this issue?

Is this your way of recruiting voters? By telling conservative voters their state is a deadbeat POS state?

Gee....I hope you sad sacks stay on the sideline in politics where you belong.

Let the actual professionals recruit those voters over to your side.....you're just entrenching them in place with crap attempts like this.

#13 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-23 01:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Is this your way of recruiting voters? By telling conservative voters their state is a deadbeat POS state?"

You have a good point; the truth isn't a good way to attract voters, at least not Trump voters.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-23 01:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

It's how you frame the truth, snoofy. You'd know that if you interacted with actual people in real life.

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-23 01:39 PM | Reply

#13 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Ahhh, poor butthurt conservatives. Maybe instead of pissing themselves over the fact that people call their states ---------, they should elect leaders and support policy that will end their state's state of ----------.

But that makes too much sense, so instead they take pride in being from --------- and lie to themselves about better states.

#16 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-23 01:42 PM | Reply

"It's fun watching Democrats be creative in how they take credit for everything good ..."

Like taking credit for no airline crashes last year? Wake up hummer. You are caught in a web of lies you cannot escape. Especially if you continue to believe in them and promote them.

That's just terrible, TERRIBLE logic.

#8 | Posted by humtake

Which is probably why your made up analogy has nothing to do with reality. Why don't you address the facts in the article instead of making up Partisan garbage all the time?

Like this... is it a fact or not? Any comment on it? You could at least say it is old data and the verdict is in out yet or something intelligent.

"In 2016, Clinton won fewer than 500 counties and Trump won more than 2,600. But the counties that Clinton carried accounted for 72% of the nation's increased economic output from 2014 through 2016, the most recent years for which figures are available, according to Brookings. The Clinton counties accounted for 66% of the new job growth over that period as well."

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-23 02:07 PM | Reply

Blue States Are the Engine Driving Job Gains

And red states are the exhaust pipe blowing it out their asses?

#18 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-01-23 02:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Not saying this isn't accurate, but I'm always suspicious when only percentages are used and not the raw numbers. Especially since this comes from fake news central.

#19 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-23 02:46 PM | Reply

Especially since this comes from fake news central.

#19 | Posted by visitor_

I purposely did not use Fox News as reference.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-23 03:05 PM | Reply

So you have the raw data?

#21 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-23 03:19 PM | Reply

@VISITOR_

Are you really surprised that the states with the majority of shipyards, tech innovations, Universities, and population would be the countries economic engines and not the states that are among the poorest in the nation?

#22 | Posted by Tor at 2018-01-23 03:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

No it's reasonable that highly populated areas would have the most job creation. But surprised that Texas wouldn't have skewed the numbers. Lots of ways that information can be sliced.

#23 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-23 03:37 PM | Reply

Now lets see where would the best and brightest from say India want to work?

States where locals are ok with them?

Or states where people assume they're Islamists?

And this is why blue states are kicking ass while Trump's fan base continues to slip into oblivious.

#24 | Posted by Tor at 2018-01-23 03:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

:edit:

oblivion.

#25 | Posted by Tor at 2018-01-23 03:51 PM | Reply

The smug is so thick I can hardly see. Maybe if the Democrats would try more to help out their fellow countrymen instead of shutting the government down too bring in more cheap foreign labor, the 'red' states would do better.

What happened to all the infrastructure money that Obama spent? It didn't go toward providing internet connectivity so that rural areas could participate in the new economy.

#26 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-23 04:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Maybe if the Democrats would try more to help out their fellow countrymen instead of shutting the government down too bring in more cheap foreign labor, the 'red' states would do better.

Putin thanks you for you help in spreading lies and misinformation.

Dreamers ARE our "fellow countrymen". And they are already here.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-23 04:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What's this?

rural areas aren't being helped by boot strap individualism?

#28 | Posted by Tor at 2018-01-23 04:39 PM | Reply

So you have the raw data?

#21 | Posted by visitor_

Is your google broke?

If you are disputing the facts in the article then show us your work.

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-23 04:40 PM | Reply

The smug is so thick I can hardly see.
#26 | POSTED BY VISITOR

It isn't the smug, its your willful choice to remain ignorant that keeps you blind.

#30 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-23 04:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Visitor is a Russian bot.

#31 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-01-23 04:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Donner, it's a click bait article, basically left wing smug porn from CNN. There's probably no there there to verify and you know it. Since it conforms with your confirmation bias feel free to believe it and spread it around without questioning it's authenticity.

#32 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-23 05:04 PM | Reply

Russians can't stand facts and data that conflict with the narrative they're being paid to push.

www.brookings.edu

#33 | Posted by Tor at 2018-01-23 05:20 PM | Reply

Thanks Tor. Nothing better than going to the source.

#34 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-23 05:36 PM | Reply

Nothing better than going to the source.

#34 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Why couldn't YOU do that Comrade?

Too busy talking about "porn", spreading lies and projecting your smugness onto the rest of us?

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-23 05:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Maybe if the Democrats would try more to help out their fellow countrymen...

And get called "commie" or "socialist" or "liberal" (not sure why that last one is a sneer...) by the very people who would benefit the most from it?

Get a grip. Most of those states are so far down the Faux News rabbit hole they wouldn't elect a Dem if they were running against Satan.

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2018-01-23 07:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Thanks Tor. Nothing better than going to the source.

#34 | Posted by visitor_

And when you find nothing wrong with CNN's analysis will you admit to being a fake poster?

#37 | Posted by jpw at 2018-01-23 07:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And when you find nothing wrong with CNN's analysis will you admit to being a fake poster?
#37 | POSTED BY JPW

I'll answer for the troll.

No. He will not.

VISITOR is a fnck¡n' troll. Nothing more, nothing less.

#38 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-01-24 12:44 AM | Reply

I wouldn't call myself a troll, more of a contrarian. These numbers, while interesting don't tell the whole story. But they do make a case for infrastructure spending in rural areas. High-speed internet so people don't have to live in large cities to participate in the information economy.

What kind of blog site do you want? One where some says, "Trump is Stupid" and 30 posts saying "yeah" and one "Interstate Crosscheck"?

A little bit of debate is good for you. Keeps you sharp.

#39 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-24 07:50 AM | Reply

"I wouldn't call myself a troll, more of a contrarian."

Much like a Heyoke. Not a Lakota with honor and dignity but more of a not so sacred Russian clown.

The heyoka (heyókȟa, also spelled "haokah," "heyokha") is a kind of sacred clown in the culture of the Lakota people of the Great Plains of North America. The heyoka is a contrarian, jester, and satirist, who speaks, moves and reacts in an opposite fashion to the people around them.

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-24 05:06 PM | Reply

A little bit of debate is good for you. Keeps you sharp.
#39 | POSTED BY VISITOR

Debate, good; yes. Baseless contrarian debate is not debate; it's ignorant conjecture based within non-dialectic methods.

#41 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-01-24 05:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

One where some says, "Trump is Stupid" and 30 posts saying "yeah" and one "Interstate Crosscheck"?

Are you suggesting without VISITOR, the DR would be relegated to such a site?

Check your ego at the door, kind sir. Educated contrarians are valued; ignorant contrarians beg to get plonked.

#42 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-01-24 05:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

RSTY, are you in anyway related to Cathy Newman?

#43 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-24 05:59 PM | Reply

I've been saying this for years... The blue states are the breadwinners... that's a fact... the red states are the nation's fekking welfare recipients.... that's why the clowns a sound so stupid with all their pissing and moaning about taxes.

#44 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2018-01-25 08:10 AM | Reply

#43 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

I think that's my sister's best friend's cousin's uncle's gimpy roommate.

Small world.

#45 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-01-25 10:38 PM | Reply

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