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Monday, January 22, 2018

A year in the presidential spotlight hasn't been kind to President Donald Trump: His approval rating is the lowest in modern polling for a president at this point, with deep deficits on policy and personal matters alike. Strikingly, the public divides evenly on whether or not he's mentally stable. That question aside, a lopsided majority, 73 percent of those polled, rejects Trump's self-assessed genius. Seventy percent say he fails to acquit himself in a way that's fitting and proper for a president. Two-thirds say he's harming his presidency with his use of Twitter. And 52 percent see him as biased against blacks -- soaring to 79 percent of blacks themselves. Just 36 percent of Americans approve of Trump's job performance, while 58 percent disapprove, essentially unchanged since midsummer. Next lowest at one year was Gerald Ford's 45 percent in 1975; average pre-Trump approval -- since Harry Truman's presidency -- is 63 percent.




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Women are especially critical of Trump in this poll, produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates: A mere 29 percent approve of his work, vs. 44 percent of men. And a remarkable 55 percent of women doubt Trump's mental stability. ...

A vast 87 percent support the DACA immigration program that Trump ended and whose fate in Congress is uncertain -- including two-thirds of strong conservatives, three-quarters of evangelical white Protestants and as many Republicans, core Trump groups.

And 63 percent overall oppose a U.S.-Mexico border wall, essentially unchanged since before the 2016 election.

As reported Friday, Trump -- and his party leaders -- also are at greater risk in the government shutdown, with Americans 20 points more likely to say they'd blame Trump and the Republicans in Congress than the Democrats in Congress.


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And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand people maybe more
People talking without speaking
People hearing without listening
People writing songs, that voices never shared
No one dared
Disturb the sound, of silence

"Fools," said I, "You do not know
Silence like a cancer grows"
Hear my words that I might teach you
Take my arms that I might reach you"
But my words, like silent raindrops fell
And echoed, in the wells, of silence

And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made
And the sign flashed out its warning
In the words that it was forming
And the sign said, "The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls,
And tenement halls"
And whispered in the sounds, of silence"

Read more: Simon And Garfunkel - The Sound Of Silence Lyrics | MetroLyrics


#1 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-21 12:53 AM | Reply

Yet the talking heads on Faux News will probably say a million times today that Trump is doing the work of the American people as they want it done.

And his 28% ignorant, water head supporter base will be nodding their heads in approval.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2018-01-21 11:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2


"A vast 87 percent support the DACA immigration program that Trump ended and whose fate in Congress is uncertain -- including two-thirds of strong conservatives, three-quarters of evangelical white Protestants and as many Republicans, core Trump groups."

Yep, Trumpublicans shut down the ebi'l gub'mint because only 87 percent of the people support DACA.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-21 12:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I wouldn't want any of my loved ones around him. That is a good test for crazy.

#4 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-01-22 01:39 PM | Reply

Once again Corky and JPW salivate over the polls. Haven't you knuckleheads learned anything after your polls made your weanies hard for Hillary only to dash your hopes election night?

#5 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-01-22 02:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Fishpaw reflexively pulls from the talking point well because he's ignorant and a shill.

I reluctantly voted for Hillary because I could never vote for Trump and regularly get into arguments with her supporters.


#6 | Posted by jpw at 2018-01-22 03:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Love the thought Corky - but this is the version: Disturbed's Sound of Silence

It was laid out this morning the hold up on DACA was the White House and it wasn't even Trump but his flunky Miller who does not want DACA.

I learned some interesting things about enforcement and such this weekend about DACA and the people that were brought here as children. Like just how far Jorge Garcia had gone since 2005 in trying to secure a green card and eventually citizenship. To those that say he should have done more - what a joke. What happened to deporting the violent criminals? He was someone raised here yet couldn't manage to get legitimized in 12 years of trying.

#7 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-01-22 03:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


Thanks, GP! I'd seen that great version before, but didn't find it right away, so I went retro.

And FishP... bite me.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-22 03:40 PM | Reply

Also... election polling is projecting what people say they will do. Opinion polling is what people say they already think.

And Trump's popularity is Fake News... from Trump.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-22 03:42 PM | Reply

"Haven't you knuckleheads learned anything after your polls..." - #5 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-01-22 02:19 PM


One last look: 2016 polls actually got a lot right

[snip] Of the 13 final national polls conducted the week before the election that tested the four-way presidential contest, only one had Trump ahead and 12 put Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton on top.

That would seem to be a veritable disaster for the polling industry, right?

Not exactly.

National polls only measure the popular vote. Clinton did, in fact, win the national popular vote by 2.1 points. The average of the 13 final national polls had Clinton ahead by 3.1 points, which was only a point off the actual result.

It Wasn't the Polls That Missed, It Was the Pundits

[snip] In fact, despite the hue and cry, the national polls were actually a touch better in 2016 than in 2012. Four years ago, the final RCP National Average gave President Obama a 0.7-point lead; he won by 3.9 points, for an error of 3.2 points. The final RCP Four-Way National Poll Average showed Hillary Clinton winning the popular vote by 3.3 points. She will probably win the popular vote by a point or so, which would equate to an error of around two points.

The 2016 national polls are looking less wrong after final election tallies

[snip] Clinton won the national popular vote by two percentage points according to certified vote tallies compiled by David Wasserman of the Cook Political Report. Most individual surveys found Clinton holding a small single-digit edge over Trump, averaging to a three-point margin. Looking across individual national polls, the average difference from the final Clinton-Trump vote margin is 2.2 percentage points, much smaller than the level of error apparent when they were compared to preliminary vote results (3.4 points).

#10 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-22 04:27 PM | Reply



It Wasn't the Polls That Missed, It Was the Pundits

I remember in '12 when so many on the right were lambasting the polls. It was obvious media bias with questions weighted to favor Obama over Romney to try and depress GOP voter turnout, you know.

Well, that was what some in the punditry were saying. In reality the polls were pretty accurate.

#11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-22 04:31 PM | Reply

Picture a congress without a single republican representing any part of a metro region.

#12 | Posted by Tor at 2018-01-22 04:34 PM | Reply

"In reality the polls were pretty accurate." - #11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-22 04:31 PM

Good, bad or indifferent, you're right, JeffJ: They usually are pretty accurate.

#13 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-22 04:34 PM | Reply

They kind of have to be, Hans.

If polling companies' polls are inaccurate, they cease to be in business rather quickly.

#14 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-22 04:37 PM | Reply

"I don't care what the f-in Dr said, the polls say he's unfit for office. Plus he's too fat to be President! Opray for President!"

#15 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-01-23 10:19 AM | Reply

he's unfit for office.

#15 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-01-23 10:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

Trump is unfit for office because he's a liar and a thief.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-23 10:38 AM | Reply

"I don't care what the f-in Dr said..."

#15 | Posted by fishpaw

As for what that doctor said, please remember it the next time that Trump speaks for ten consecutive minutes and no one understands what he means.

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-23 10:39 AM | Reply

#17 Can you give us an example? Obama and Clinton blatantly lied but you didn't say they were un fit for office. You need some new original material.

#18 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-01-23 11:27 AM | Reply

#18; ---------, have you anything but false equivalencies?

Here is a typical trump unscripted speech;

"Look, having nuclear -- my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart -- you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world -- it's true! -- but when you're a conservative Republican they try -- oh, do they do a number -- that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune -- you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged -- but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me -- it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are -- nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? -- but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners -- now it used to be three, now it's four -- but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years -- but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us."

And here is a typical Obama unscripted speech;

America, like every other nation, has made mistakes and has its flaws. But for more than two centuries we have strived at great cost and sacrifice to form a more perfect union, to seek with other nations a more hopeful world. We remain committed to a greater good, and we have citizens in countless countries who are serving in wonderful capacities as doctors and as agricultural specialists, people -- teachers -- people who are committed to making the world a better place.

We're also a country of different backgrounds and races and religions that have come together around a set of shared ideals. And we are still a place where anybody has a chance to make it if they try. If that wasn't true, then somebody named Barack Hussein Obama would not be elected President of the United States of America. That's the America I want you to know.

#19 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-23 06:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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