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Saturday, January 20, 2018

Former Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Michael Steele says that the GOP is to blame for the government shutdown after lawmakers missed the deadline to pass a funding bill late Friday. "Despite the rhetorical effort to paste Democrats with 'Schumer's Shutdown' and to redefine what constitutes majority control of the Senate ('60'? Really?), the fact remains that this shutdown rests at the feet of the GOP and it appears a majority of Americans agree," Steele told Politico. Steele, who chaired the RNC from 2009-2011, before former White House chief of staff Reince Priebus, called the shutdown "pitiful" and said it "certainly could have been avoided."

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The President said he was going to run America like his businesses. Apparently we have reached the part where he would usually just declare bankruptcy and run away. #TrumpShutdown

Way to go,-------------------.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2018-01-20 04:27 PM | Reply

It's funny how, in the DRtard world, in 2013 when the GOP didn't vote for cloture, it was the GOP's fault and in 2017, when the Dems don't vote for cloture, its the GOP's fault.

#2 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-20 06:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#2

Exactly. It's like these people have never heard of the filibuster and have no concept as to how it's used.

#3 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-20 06:18 PM | Reply

#3 It seems so Jeff, how could the Republicans not know that the filibuster exists and they will need to negotiate with the dems. SAD!

#4 | Posted by bored at 2018-01-20 06:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bored,

I agree that they need to negotiate. My response to that is it takes two to tango. In ‘13 Obama called out the GOP for trying to force ACA repeal, or some watered down version, into a CR. Obama adroitly asked for a "clean bill" so that we could avoid a shutdown. He was right and the GOP paid a price. Now the roles are reversed and the GOP is too incompetent to use the same playbook. They deserve what they get.

#5 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-20 06:54 PM | Reply

GOP paid a price? How?

#6 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-01-20 07:12 PM | Reply

I'd also like to know what price the GOP paid.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-20 07:14 PM | Reply

When Obama was President Republicans pretended like Steele was a hero to them all.

After this statement they'll all pretend never to have heard of him.

#8 | Posted by Tor at 2018-01-20 07:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This shutdown has orange stink all over it. GOP... you built this.

Republican strategist John Weaver said Saturday that blame for the government shutdown falls on President Trump and the GOP.

"Trump created the [Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program] crisis. The congressional wing of the GOP refused to fund CHIP. Trump & GOP ignored the pleas of the Pentagon for a fully funded budget. All of this is on them," Weaver said.

thehill.com

#9 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2018-01-20 08:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#9

They had months to negotiate this, knowing they needed to get 60 votes this time, not 51; you know, actually govern with some bit of compromise... and what did they do?

Nothing. They couldn't agree among themselves what to do; they didn't even get all the Republicans to vote for them, much less Dems who they continued to ignore, so they ended up just like they did when they tried to destroy OCare.... looking like morons.

Which is easy enough for morons.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-20 08:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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when the Dems don't vote for cloture, its the GOP's fault.

#2 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Well Dems and a considerable numbers of GOP members.

#11 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2018-01-20 09:10 PM | Reply

Government shutdown? I imagine Ted Cruz is as happy as a pig in ----.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-20 09:17 PM | Reply

when the Dems don't vote for cloture, its the GOP's fault.

No, it's the GOP's fault for not winning 60+ Senate seats in 2016.

They'll just have to try harder in November.

#13 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-01-21 01:22 AM | Reply

"Trump created the [Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program] crisis. The congressional wing of the GOP refused to fund CHIP. Trump & GOP ignored the pleas of the Pentagon for a fully funded budget. All of this is on them," Weaver said.

This.

#14 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-01-21 02:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Healthcare for millions of kids and the right to remain in the country that young people have grown up in are too important to allow a bunch of nasty right wing ideologues use the threat of a shutdown to force an unnecessary government shutdown to decide those issues. Millions of young people and children in desperate need of health care are depending on the Democrats to stand strong now, politics is a rough sport and this battle could become brutal. We need the Democrats to be courageous and tell the Republicans that we can't, in good conscience, cave in to Republican demands that we throw children or Dreamers under the GOP bus.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-21 05:31 AM | Reply

Let's see

In the House
224 Republicans 6 Democrats voted for
11 Republicans 186 Democrats voted against

In the Senate
45 Republicans 5 Democrats voted for
4 Republicans 45 Democrats voted against

So
269 Republicans and 11 Democrats voted to keep the government open
and
15 Republicans and 221 Democrats voted to shut the government down.

Do not see how this is a GOP problem.

#16 | Posted by sawdust at 2018-01-21 08:18 AM | Reply

Let's see

In the House
224 Republicans 6 Democrats voted for
11 Republicans 186 Democrats voted against

In the Senate
45 Republicans 5 Democrats voted for
4 Republicans 45 Democrats voted against

So
269 Republicans and 11 Democrats voted to keep the government open
and
15 Republicans and 221 Democrats voted to shut the government down.

Do not see how this is a GOP problem.

#17 | Posted by sawdust at 2018-01-21 08:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Do not see how this is a GOP problem.

It's simple... they didn't have enough votes. They need someone who knows how to make a deal.

#18 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-01-21 08:28 AM | Reply

You are right, they did not have enough votes...

Vote Republican in 2018. Get the obstructionists out.

#19 | Posted by sawdust at 2018-01-21 09:47 AM | Reply

Vote Republican in 2018.

#19 | Posted by sawdust at 2018-01-21 09

Yeah, Donald Trump hasn't stolen near enough money from you yet.

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-21 10:26 AM | Reply

15 Republicans and 221 Democrats voted to shut the government down.

Do not see how this is a GOP problem.

#17 | Posted by sawdust at

Because Trump walked away from a bi-partisan bill he'd agreed to?

Keep your eyes on the ball, Sonny. Your carnival barker of a president isn't done with you.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-21 10:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Vote Republican in 2018. Get the obstructionists out.

#19 | POSTED BY SAWDUST

God sometimes I wish we could have IQ requirements to vote.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2018-01-21 11:34 AM | Reply

15 Republicans and 221 Democrats voted to shut the government down.
Do not see how this is a GOP problem.
#17 | POSTED BY SAWDUST

Included in the shutdown vote was Mitch McConnell himself. The the Senate Majority leader voted to close the government.

How do you explain that Dusty?

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-21 05:36 PM | Reply

Included in the shutdown vote was Mitch McConnell himself. The the Senate Majority leader voted to close the government.

How do you explain that Dusty?

It's a procedural requirement so that the bill can be brought up again for another vote.

#24 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-01-21 06:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

IQ requirements to vote? Works for me. We would not have any more Dems elected.

#25 | Posted by sawdust at 2018-01-21 08:09 PM | Reply

This is absolutely identical to '13.

The fight is in the Senate.

The minority party is making a demand that is unrelated to keeping the government open.

The minority party is using the filibuster to prevent a CR.

In both instances the minority party in the Senate was/is to blame for the shutdown.

#26 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-21 08:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

- The minority party is making a demand that is unrelated to keeping the government open.

Because the majority party refuses to even address an issue that the vast majority of Americans, including most Republicans, agree with the minority party on.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-21 08:20 PM | Reply

"This is absolutely identical to '13. "

No, there's a central salient difference. Obama didn't agreed with Ted Cruz before he disagreed with him.

"The minority party is making a demand that is unrelated to keeping the government open."

In 2013, the demand was "repeal Obamacare", the real-world equivalent of overturn the results of the election.

In 2018, they're disagreeing about things they agree on.

#-------- Shutdown

#28 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-01-21 08:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wrong!

#29 | Posted by Crassus at 2018-01-21 08:43 PM | Reply

The minority party is making a demand that is unrelated to keeping the government open

Correct.

In 2013, the demand was "repeal Obamacare

Unrelated to the bill.

#30 | Posted by Crassus at 2018-01-21 08:44 PM | Reply

- The minority party is making a demand that is unrelated to keeping the government open

So what? That's common practice by both sides and there is enough unrelated GOP pork in the Bill now to choke a McDonald's swilling 300 lb President.

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-21 08:55 PM | Reply

"Unrelated to the bill."

More to the point, unrelated to reality.

DACA will pass. "Repealing Obamacare" never had a chance.

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-01-21 09:12 PM | Reply

So what?

#33 | Posted by Crassus at 2018-01-21 09:22 PM | Reply

So...there are several salient differences.

Obama never agreed with Cruz before he disagreed with Cruz.
One demand was sensible, the other impossible.

And most fun of all, in 2013 Trump said the President would be responsible for any shutdown. What changed, do you suppose?

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-01-21 09:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"So what?"

That's pretty much what I think when skimming over your idiocy.

#35 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-01-21 09:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So what?

#33 | POSTED BY CRASSUS

The government could be open in an hour. The controlling party could open it right now with an short term CR to indicate that they are willing to begin serious negotiations. But they refuse to do so.

So ... enjoy the #trumpshutdown as it will forever be known.

Poor Crassus.

Must be embarrassing to be so clueless.

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-21 10:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Only clueless to you DR liberals, but that's OK, I think you people are blindly clueless lacking common sense.

#37 | Posted by Crassus at 2018-01-21 11:09 PM | Reply

#24

Tony is exactly correct, thanks for confirming that out to your mentally challenged brethren, since when I pointed that out in another thread the DRtards shouted me down.

#38 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-22 12:36 AM | Reply

In 2018, they're disagreeing about things they agree on.

No, they are not. In this bill Democrats are demanding DACA be applied to well over a million people. The GOP wanted it limited to only those who had already applied - roughly 700k. Democrats wanted other provisions as well that were unpalatable to the GOP. It's a separate issue unrelated to keeping the government running, especially when we take into account that Trump's pullback of DACA doesn't take effect until March.

This is 100% on the minority party in the Senate, just like '13 was on the minority party in the Senate.

#39 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-22 06:59 AM | Reply

#39

Minority Party had a bipartisan compromise. It was up to the Majority president to do something with it.

The best thing about this shutdown is that it ruined Donald's Florida party. Here's hoping it costs him money, personally. You'll see something get done then.

#40 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-22 07:10 AM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

In the House
224 Republicans 6 Democrats voted for
11 Republicans 186 Democrats voted against
In the Senate
45 Republicans 5 Democrats voted for
4 Republicans 45 Democrats voted against
So
269 Republicans and 11 Democrats voted to keep the government open
and
15 Republicans and 221 Democrats voted to shut the government down.
Do not see how this is a GOP problem.
#17 | POSTED BY SAWDUST AT 2018-01-21 08:18 AM |

You left out the most important statistic

284 republicans wrote a bill no real American could vote for. The vote was just a confirmation that republicans hate America

#41 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-01-22 09:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The best thing about this shutdown is that it ruined Donald's Florida party. Here's hoping it costs him money, personally....

#40 | POSTED BY ZED

Not sure if I should flag this NW or FF. I'm going with FF. Nicely done.

#42 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-22 09:31 AM | Reply

no real American

#41 | POSTED BY HATTER5183 AT 2018-01-22 09:30 AM | REPLY |

No True Scotsman fallacy. Argument invalid.

#43 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-01-22 10:46 AM | Reply

284 republicans wrote a bill no real American could vote for. The vote was just a confirmation that republicans hate America

#41 | POSTED BY HATTER5183
No True Scotsman fallacy. Argument invalid.

#43 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Sorry. No American with a functioning brain. Better?

#44 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-22 11:14 AM | Reply

Still the same logical fallacy.

#45 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-01-22 11:54 AM | Reply

Still the same logical fallacy.

#45 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG AT 2018-01-22 11:54 AM |

So if it is a logical fallacy tell us what American would vote is anathema to everything our country stands for?

#46 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-01-22 04:44 PM | Reply

Anyway who cares what Steele says.

Trumpsters all know he is just a WINO.

(Wing-nut In Name Only)

#47 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-22 06:44 PM | Reply

This vote was taken because senate democrats know the McConnell is going to break his word.

When he does we get a 2nd shutdown where CHIP is off the table and no one on either side can say "I think we can trust him to do the right thing...."

#48 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2018-01-22 06:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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