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Wednesday, January 17, 2018

It's now illegal in New Jersey to sell or posses a "bump stock," the controversial firearm accessory allegedly used by the gunman in last year's Las Vegas massacre. Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican set to leave office Tuesday, signed a Democratic-sponsored bill Monday outlawing the devices, which can be affixed to semiautomatic riffles to allow them to fire bullets, mimicking automatic weapons. ... Anyone who owns a bump stock or "trigger crank" now has 90 days -- until April 15 -- to surrender the accessories to law enforcement authorities. Retailers who sell them have 30 days. Sale or possession of a bump stock is now a third-degree crime that carries a sentence of three-to-five years in prison, a fine of up to $15,000, or both.

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NRA wouldn't let the Republicans in Congress do it.

#1 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-17 03:54 PM | Reply

Wrong syc. NRA has been for putting them on the controlled list just like machine guns. Quit making up stuff.

#2 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-01-17 04:08 PM | Reply

They NRA gave the GOP cover by making the claim right after Vegas that ATF should be the group to regulate them. Cowardly GOP Congressional members quickly jumped under that umbrella.

#3 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2018-01-17 07:51 PM | Reply

For a second there I thought snippy was right about something. So close.

#4 | Posted by bored at 2018-01-17 08:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

They NRA gave the GOP cover by making the claim right after Vegas that ATF should be the group to regulate them.

So? The ATF has primary authority to regulate them under the GCA and the NFA?

The NFA defines "machinegun" as any weapon which: "shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger." The term also includes "the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any Start Printed Page 60930combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person." www.federalregister.gov
And there lies your opportunity to voice your objection to the ATF.

#5 | Posted by et_al at 2018-01-17 08:24 PM | Reply

For a second there I thought snippy was right about something. So close.

#4 | Posted by bored

The o'bummer admin. was the people that OK'ed the bump stocks.

#6 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-01-18 10:47 AM | Reply

Okay'd them twice. Per the Obama ATF, they definitely do not convert a firearm to fully-automatic.

#7 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-01-18 11:14 AM | Reply

No they don't sit, but they sue fire like a full auto. So what is the difference?

#8 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-01-18 01:32 PM | Reply

A huge amount of accuracy. There's a reason the military and police don't use them. It's a toy for throwing a lot of lead down range, but only tactically useful if you have say... a thousand people 600 yards away huddling together, firing from concealment.

#9 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-01-18 01:58 PM | Reply

Want the legislative difference?

""The stock has no automatically functioning mechanical parts or springs and performs no automatic mechanical function when installed. Accordingly, we find that the ‘bump-stock' is a firearm part and is not regulated as a firearm under Gun Control Act or the National Firearms Act."

It's not a full-auto conversion unless the ATF's definition of fully automatic fire is changed. Those conversions exist and are regulated accordingly.

#10 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-01-18 02:01 PM | Reply

No they don't sit, but they sue fire like a full auto. So what is the difference?

#8 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-01-18 01:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

A huge amount of accuracy. There's a reason the military and police don't use them.

#9 | Posted by sitzkrieg

You are right sit, if he had uses a regular semi-auto the body count would be much higher. You can't shoot straight when you have to jerk on the stock to make it fire.

#11 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-01-18 04:00 PM | Reply

So, it's good for firing into a crowd, but not for hunting. Seems that we need that.

#12 | Posted by Snowfake at 2018-01-18 07:28 PM | Reply

You haven't seen anything yet. Just wait for electronic triggers that can handle carbine and rifle calibers reliably. When the trigger lever hits the switch you get a ton of micro bounces. Each one can be interpreted as individual trigger pulls, still meeting ATF definitions of still being semi-auto in many of the software firing modes. The paintball industry went through this about 15 years ago. The firearm industry going through it is inevitable.

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-01-18 09:03 PM | Reply

"Just wait for electronic triggers that can handle carbine and rifle calibers reliably."

Is the reason we don't have consumer EMP railguns is that railguns are not firearms?

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-18 09:23 PM | Reply

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