'That being said, it is not right to call someone a liar (these Senators) with a disputed statement that they claim not to have witnessed.'...Avigdore
You are misrepresenting (lying about) what they said. They did not claim they did not witness it. You are making that up. That is a lie. There is nothing in the statement to support this position.
Regardless of our opinions, regardless of the likelihood that President Trump did call those countries ---------, there are still 3 options of which we can't prove:...Avigdore
I dont need to prove anything. Senator Graham and Senator Durbin, United States called the BLOTUS' denial a lie. Both agree he said it. I choose to believe them because their statement is believable and credible based upon their past statements, and and based on BLOTUS' past lies. Trump told 2,000 demonstrable lies in his first year in office. This deprives him of receiving 'benefit of doubt' when reliable sources dispute his word.
"He said it where they could hear (they'd be liars), he said it where they couldn't hear (they said nothing wrong), or he didn't say it(they said nothing wrong. Yes, they are professional communicators. If they say 'No, Trump didn't say that', but he did outside of their awareness and a tape shows up, they would be crucified, and you know it. They allowed that he may have said it, but claim to have not witnessed it."...Avigdore
No, they did not 'claim not to have witnessed it'! That is Bullcrap. Now you are lying, Avigdore. They claimed not to be able to recall it. That is a totally different statement than you pulled out of your rectum in your fanciful spin.
If you are asked what General Patton said when he left the Philippines, and say "I dont recall", you have not stated that he didnt say "I shall return". Here, you are implying that "I dont recall" means "He didnt say that in my presence" which is pure unadulterated Bullcrap.
"If you want to call their wording weasel-y, that's certainly true, but to call it a lie is an unproven claim."
When your Commanding Officer lies to his crew and the public 2000 times in 1 year, and multiple respected Ships Officers tell you he said something shocking, which reflects poorly upon him, and he denies saying it, you are a fool to believe the Commander, and are a fool to believe the sycophants who were present and say "I dont recall".
You have every reason to believe the proven lying liar is, in fact, a shameless lying liar, for he has proven himself, 2,000 times, to be a shameless liar.
Trump has earned his reputation of being a shameless liar. You are a fool to believe him and a bigger fool to defend those who pretend not to recall his weak as koolaid denial, and you are a fool to pretend his word should be taken for truth, and you are a fool to believe it when cowardly sycophants who were in the room say "I dont recall".
You are every bit as weaselly as are the "I cant recall (what happened in my presence yesterday)" lying liars.
They were all in the meeting.
There were but 3 possible defensable responses:
#2, Yes, he said that.
#3...No. he did not say that.
"I don't recall" is a lie. All your "Goatman" Tap Dancing samatic bullcrap is bullcrap.