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Friday, January 12, 2018

Donald Trump appears to have revealed just how little he knows about energy and the climate during yet another bizarre press conference, this time with the Norwegian Prime Minister, Erna Solberg. During a Q&A session he was asked by a reporter what it would take for the United States to remain in the Paris Accord on climate change. The President repeated his claims it treated the US "unfairly" and was a "bad deal" but did say "we could conceivably go back in". Solberg then took the opportunity to push the virtues of environmentally sound technology but Trump responded with a brusque -- and bizarre -- answer. He said: "One of the great assets of Norway is a thing called 'water' - they have tremendous hydropower, tremendous. In fact most of your energy is produced by hydro."

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What the hell does dotard is of the coast of the eastern and western seaboards?

#1 | Posted by 726 at 2018-01-11 06:57 AM | Reply

Congratulations GOP, you built that moron.

#2 | Posted by 726 at 2018-01-11 06:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

BLOTUS also touted the sale of F-52 fighter jets to Norway.

www.rt.com

#3 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2018-01-11 07:08 AM | Reply

www.rt.com #3 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT

REIN confirmed as Russian socia media bot.

#4 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-01-11 08:39 AM | Reply

Apparently Norway and Puerto Rico have something in common.

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-01-11 08:49 AM | Reply

Great bait and swich. Let them order F-35s but then deliver B-52s.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-11 09:56 AM | Reply

Apparently Norway and Puerto Rico have something in common.

Yeah, they're both islands!
--HRH Donald Trump

#7 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-01-11 10:21 AM | Reply

I'm starting to wonder if Trumps "executive time" is when Pence or Kelly handcuff his feet to the bed while distracting him with a cheeseburger.

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2018-01-11 01:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I guess I'm missing the problem here.

A quick google on Norway and Hydropower brings up numerous hits, many with titles that would seem to indicate that Norway is indeed a leader in this area.

Attack his delivery, or how it relates to the US and the accord... but that's not what the comments have been so far.

Mocking everything he says, especially when it's correct, is only going to serve to mute the call for attention when he says something truly dangerous.

#9 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2018-01-11 02:56 PM | Reply

KWRX25

"mute the call for attention when he says something truly dangerous."

Oh, I don't think that's going to happen. That's why we use the shotgun approach. Our mocking is usually a day late anyway. By the time it reaches us, the red line on a meter somewhere in the Pentagon has already spiked.

#10 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-01-12 12:37 AM | Reply

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So why aren't WE the leader in that area?

Because Trump and republicans actively resist efforts to move to clean energy.

#11 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-01-12 11:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

He said: "One of the great assets of Norway is a thing called 'water' - they have tremendous hydropower, tremendous. In fact most of your energy is produced by hydro."

One of the other great assets of Norway is they have a leader who is intelligent and competent.

#12 | Posted by 726 at 2018-01-12 11:37 AM | Reply

This is awesome. He answers sarcastically because so many people cling to every word he says and try to turn it into a news story (like this article), and to mock how so many Liberals have to be spoon-fed information...and Liberals completely missed the sarcasm because they are too busy doing exactly what he is mocking. It's a lovely thing.

#13 | Posted by humtake at 2018-01-12 11:41 AM | Reply

"He answers sarcastically..." - #13 | Posted by humtake at 2018-01-12 11:41 AM

Like Trump, you have no idea what sarcasm is, much less how to use it.

#14 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 11:43 AM | Reply

Why is it that when other countries have a good idea the republicans always say we can't do that and insist on holding on to the past?

We could do tidal power
We could do high speed rail
We could do universal healthcare
We could do nationwide high speed internet

Instead we CHOOSE to fall behind the rest of the world in these areas.

#15 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-01-12 11:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#13 sorry to break it to you but he's not an evil genius.

Sometimes a dotard is just a dotard.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2018-01-12 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This is awesome. He answers sarcastically because so many people cling to every word he says and try to turn it into a news story (like this article), and to mock how so many Liberals have to be spoon-fed information...and Liberals completely missed the sarcasm because they are too busy doing exactly what he is mocking. It's a lovely thing.

#13 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

You can't possibly be this dumb.

Yes, he was being sarcastic trying to say Norway is different than the US because they rely on hydropower and have lots of water.

The point you are obviously too dense to get is that the US has a ton of water too and could be using hydropower much more but isn't. Norway CHOSE to invest in it. Republicans refused to. And now Norway isn't suffering under the Paris Accords but the US would somewhat.

And Conservatives like you will lap it up and ask for a second helping of lies all the while giving the Republicans a pass on investing in our country and staying out of the Climate Accords because they sold their souls to special interests groups.

Stop posting. Your posts are trash. You are barely literate. And you make everyone dumber for having to read your garbage.

#17 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-12 12:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#15 | POSTED BY HATTER5183

I don't think tidal is worth the effort but I like the rest.

#18 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-12 12:14 PM | Reply

America has this thing called the sun but Trump preferscutting the tops off mountains for coal. And then throwing the refuse in streams.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-12 12:18 PM | Reply

It's too bad we don't have water that we could use for generating energy. Now I'll just step out my door where I fully expect to see a dry ditch where the Meramec-Mississippi confluence used to be.

Wait...the rivers are still there. I'm not 100% certain but I think this President may sometimes fudge the truth a tiny bit.

#20 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2018-01-12 12:19 PM | Reply

Mocking everything he says, especially when it's correct, is only going to serve to mute the call for attention when he says something truly dangerous.

#9 | Posted by kwrx25

Perhaps you are missing the point.

EVERYTHING Trump says is dangerous and he deserves to be mocked.

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-12 01:02 PM | Reply

this sort of follows #18 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES

Let's start with this: Trump is an idiot.

Next, while a large portion of the difficulties I've seen while working in renewable energy come from the right (especially in wind and solar), the majority of issues in permitting for hydroelectric stem from environmental concerns. The concerns pertaining to transmission lines alone (which are run along the ocean floor to an interconnection point) are enough to shutter most hydro projects before they get out of planning. The tidal generation project slated for the Golden Gate bridge (one of the best places to have such generation as a result of the deep, narrow entryway leading into the bay and relatively convenient interconnections) had the support of local elected officials (this is back when Gavin Newsom was the SF mayor; a major supporter of the project) and businesses, but was scuttled by environmental concerns.

While lamenting this with a peer from Norway, he explained to me that the difference in approach was simple: In Norway, they began with the assumption "This project is going to happen. We are going to run these transmission lines and there will be an impact to wildlife and fishermen, but this project is going to happen. So let's figure out the best way." In the US the starting point is "This generation is a luxury and we'll get it done if it's both financially viable AND we can get all groups on board; ESPECIALLY the environmental groups".

Those working in offshore renewable energy in the US (including offshore wind as well as all forms of hydrokinetics) learn to expect to be attacked from the left and the right. It's time-consuming, risky and the regulatory realities of shorelines in CA and the PNW are nightmarishly complex and opaque. Those who are in renewables for the money can't stomach the risk, and those who want a better portfolio of renewable options because of what it means for the planet get tired of being hammered by environmental groups. Very few people with experience in offshore renewable generation want to work in offshore renewable generation in the US.

Also: Trump is an idiot

#22 | Posted by worldasifindit at 2018-01-12 01:15 PM | Reply

It's time-consuming, risky and the regulatory realities of shorelines in CA and the PNW are nightmarishly complex and opaque. Those who are in renewables for the money can't stomach the risk, and those who want a better portfolio of renewable options because of what it means for the planet get tired of being hammered by environmental groups.

#22 | POSTED BY WORLDASIFINDIT AT 2018-01-12 01:15 PM | REPLY |

A basic truth. Regulations do not add cost to projects.

They merely place the cost where it belongs. Yes it costs more to build a plant the right way. but that extra cost is money that will be paid by someone else to clean up the mess if it is not spent up front by the factory. All that regulations do is force companies to own their negative externalities instead of pretending to save us $5 and then we have to pay $10 to someone else to fix the problem later

#23 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-01-12 01:47 PM | Reply

You can't possibly be this dumb.

#17 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2018-01-12 12:01 PM | REPLY

Wanna bet?

#24 | Posted by Reagan58 at 2018-01-12 01:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You can't possibly be this dumb.
#17 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2018-01-12 12:01 PM | REPLY
Wanna bet?
#24 | POSTED BY REAGAN58

...Good point.

#25 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-12 06:59 PM | Reply

#15...
Q:
Why can't we have....

List of great things we should have as modern americANs...

A: we blew 34 gorillion on TARP, bank owners, and shovel ready pork.

And a couple lines of blow and a threesome of hookers.

#26 | Posted by mutant at 2018-01-12 08:00 PM | Reply

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