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Sunday, January 07, 2018

North Korea reportedly launched a Hwasong-12 intermediate-range ballistic missile in April 2017 that failed a few seconds into flight and came crashing down on a North Korean city. The Diplomat's Ankit Panda and David Schmerler, of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies, cited a US government source as saying the missile failed a minute into flight and never went higher than 70 kilometers. That initial minute of boosted flight propelled the missile 39 kilometers away to Tokchon, a city of about 200,000 people in North Korea's interior, according to Panda and Schmerler's investigation. Satellite imagery scanned by the authors shows damage to industrial or agricultural buildings near a residential area.

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The fiery crash of a North Korean missile into a populated town demonstrates yet another threat posed by Pyongyang's nuclear ambitions. North Korea has twice fired a Hwasong-12 missile over Japan. A similar failure in the launch process could see a large liquid-fueled missile crashing down on a populated Japanese town.

If such an accident were interpreted as a deliberate attack, it could spark a wider conflict.

Using mobile missile launchers, which sometimes even have treads like a tank, North Korea showed in 2017 it could launch from virtually anywhere within its borders.

The unpredictability and mobility of North Korea's launches mean the U.S. or its allies would have a hard time preempting such a launch or even knowing where to look for one.

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D'Oh!

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#1 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-01-07 03:15 PM | Reply

I've heard that kids playing with guns are more likely to accidently kill themselves than anyone else.

Looks like this will be Pyongyang's fate.

#2 | Posted by Tor at 2018-01-07 03:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Mobile launchers are what B-2s are designed to get. I wonder if Donald knows that?

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-07 07:27 PM | Reply

Mobile launchers are what B-2s are designed to get.

I suspect not. Mobile launchers are very difficult to take out, next to impossible for a strategic bomber.

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-01-07 07:33 PM | Reply

#4

The B-2S we're designed to loiter. That's what gives them the opportunity to find small things, which can be dispatched with nukes if precise location remains unavailable.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-07 07:39 PM | Reply

No one is going to use a nuke on a possible mobile launcher location.

You know how many of Saddam's mobile SCUD launchers got taken out in the first Gulf War?

None.

#6 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-01-07 07:42 PM | Reply

The B-2 was not "designed" to loiter, but like most Strategic Bombers is has excellent loiter capabilities when air supremacy is held by the US. The B-52 has more fuel capacity and the B-1 carries a bigger payload, but the B-2's avionics make it the ideal modern platform since it can remain aloft for a long time, can repurpose its payload and can control drones.

As for the Donald knowing that, it is irrelevant since the USAF knows its capabilities.

#7 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-07 09:17 PM | Reply

You know how many of Saddam's mobile SCUD launchers got taken out in the second Gulf War?

All of them.

#8 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-07 11:42 PM | Reply

In the first gulf war GWHB wanted to make a point and keep Iran in check, not to mention UN mandates.

2nd gulf war, I'm a dandy ,gwb

#9 | Posted by bruceaz at 2018-01-07 11:51 PM | Reply

but like most Strategic Bombers is has excellent loiter capabilities

Only if the weather is cool and dry.

www.nytimes.com

The $2 Billion Stealth Bomber Can't Go Out in the Rain

Two years ago, the problem with the Air Force's B-2 Stealth bombers, which cost $2 billion apiece, was that their radar could not tell a rain cloud from a mountainside.

Now the problem is that the B-2 cannot go out in the rain.

The investigative arm of Congress reported this week that the B-2, the world's most expensive aircraft, deteriorates in rain, heat and humidity. It ''must be sheltered or exposed only to the most benign environments -- low humidity, no precipitation, moderate temperatures,'' said the report by the General Accounting Office.

A t#$d that costs $2 Billion and is more a propaganda weapon than anything useful.

#10 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-01-08 01:24 AM | Reply

The report said that the skin of the plane cannot handle the heat or the damp or the rain. That skin, made of thermoplastics and composites transparent to radar, is supposed to help give the bomber its much-touted radar-evading ''stealthy'' qualities.

Without that stealthiness, the plane is less than the unique technological achievement the Air Force has claimed it to be.

Oh dear!

#11 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-01-08 01:25 AM | Reply

And with these problems the plane cannot be deployed overseas, where it would be needed in battle. The Air Force issued a statement today saying that, for now, it will cancel plans to station the bombers overseas. ''It would be difficult to operate the B-2 from a deployed location,'' the Air Force statement said.

In the movies, it's a different story though.

So go watch a movie and cheer along.

#12 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-01-08 01:30 AM | Reply

This thread is about North Korea not Pakistan. Nice try at derailing this thread when you haven't got anything useful to contribute. Seems to be a habit with you people.

As for B-52s over North Korea....

The USAF continues to rely on the B-52 because it remains an effective and economical heavy bomber in the absence of sophisticated air defenses, particularly in the type of missions that have been conducted since the end of the Cold War against nations with limited defensive capabilities. (wiki)

What kind of air defense does North Korea have? I am pretty sure they can take out the BUFF (Big Ugly Fat F%cker... airforce name for the B-52).

#14 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-01-08 03:07 AM | Reply

#7

Ah. So it wasn't designed to loiter. They made it and then discovered it does.

For extra points, WHY is the B-2 able to carry such a heavy payload?

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-08 06:56 AM | Reply

North Korea is a variant of the Mouse that Roared. Their posturing is designed to prevent a second US invasion.

#16 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-01-08 09:24 AM | Reply

There is an Alice-in-Wonderland MSM narrative that has North Korea as the aggressor that must be controlled and punished at all costs.

There is also a Moon-Putin Peace Plan which is rarely, if ever, mentioned in the MSM. President Moon outlined it as nine "bridges" of cooperation linking South Korea to Russia via North Korea -- "gas, railroads, ports, electricity, a northern sea route, shipbuilding, jobs, agriculture, and fisheries." Siberian oil and gas pipelines would be extended to Korea, both North and South, as well as to Japan. Both Koreas would be linked up with the vast rail networks of Beijing's Belt and Road Initiative, including high-speed rail, and the Eurasian Economic Union, which includes the Trans-Siberian Railway.

North Korea would accept the security guarantee of the five (Japan included), refrain from any further nuclear or missile testing, shelve (‘freeze') its existing programs and gain its longed for ‘normalization' in the form of incorporation in regional groupings, the lifting of sanctions and normalized relations with its neighbor states, without surrender.

Whether the USA or Kim Jung-un would accept this plan is questionable. But its important to realize that the plan is being censored. In many ways, our free press is a myth.

#17 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-01-08 09:40 AM | Reply

Bombed their own city? Dammit. I hate it when that happens.

#18 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-01-08 01:21 PM | Reply

When the US entered the nuclear age it has been estimated that the radioactive fallout from those tests was responsible for 340,000 to 690,000 American deaths from 1951 to 1973.

nuff said...

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-08 01:37 PM | Reply

North Korea Bombed Own City During Missile Test

That's alright...they have a loooong ways to go to catch up to the ------- of the US nuclear program...Hundreds a decade since the 50s, you guys ever find the 6-7 missing/dropped nukes that were never recovered(by the US)?

#20 | Posted by ghoti at 2018-01-08 02:44 PM | Reply

Bombed their own city? Dammit. I hate it when that happens.
#18 | MODER8

There's a silver lining to this. Kept 'em from starving to death.

#21 | Posted by Whizzo at 2018-01-08 06:29 PM | Reply

Maybe we could get Dotard to accidentally bomb his own Marlago golf resort.

#22 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-01-08 09:42 PM | Reply

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