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Sunday, January 07, 2018

More than a year after Republican leaders promised to investigate Russian interference in the presidential election, two influential Republicans on Friday made the first known congressional criminal referral in connection with the meddling -- against one of the people who sought to expose it. Senator Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, and Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, a senior committee member, told the Justice Department that they had reason to believe that a former British spy, Christopher Steele, lied to federal authorities about his contacts with reporters regarding information in a dossier, and they urged the department to investigate.

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"It's clearly another effort to deflect attention from what should be the committee's top priority: determining whether there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia to influence the election and whether there was subsequent obstruction of justice," said Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, the top Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, who added that she had not been consulted about the referral.

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Republicans are getting nervous about the Leader of their Party with these new Deflections; telling people to look at anyone other than the Wizard of Orange behind the curtain of lies.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-05 05:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Sounds like Republicans would rather arrest the guy who gave information on a terrorist attack rather than the terrorist because the guy got the year of the car wrong.

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-05 06:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#2

Apparently I always have FriedCatfish's attention.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-05 06:35 PM | Reply

- double-check first

Steele's intel had been used by US intelligence agencies for years. And they are known for their double-checking. Of course, having rwing Senators do it would be even better, right?

www.reuters.com

And much of it has been corroborated publically.

www.slate.com

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-05 06:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Yer an idiot, fish-boy.

#8 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-01-05 07:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4 | Posted by cookfish

You do know that much of the document has been verified, right?

Therefore...

Not crap.

next!

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-05 07:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

File this story under: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished.

#10 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-05 11:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


... Republicans Want to Investigate Trump Dossier Author ...

Of course they do.

imo, (and only my opinion) That just confirms that Mr Steele is on the right track or has some significant info.

Just what are the Republicans so afraid of? That all or some of Mr Steele's data might be correct?

This is going to determine the future of what we want the Country to be.

Think wisely here.

#11 | Posted by lamplighter at 2018-01-05 11:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#12 | Posted by cookfish

LOL!

Is "CHEATINGMOM" your professional handle?

#15 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-01-06 06:31 PM | Reply

After all this time they have yet to substantiate anything in that 'dossier', so at this point in time someone would want to look into the one who wrote it, as well as those involved in funding it [dems and Fusion GPS].

#16 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-01-06 07:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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"After all this time they have yet to substantiate anything in that 'dossier', "

So what? Steele was just a subcontractor of GPS providing a deliverable (Information) to GPS who would then provide a deliverable (Information) to whomever was willing to pay for it.

Welcome to the Information Age.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-07 05:15 PM | Reply

Sounds like a very NAZI-like move by the alt-right republicans.
I think they need to start wearing red armbands, bad bowl cuts, and stubby moustache's again.

#18 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-01-07 05:16 PM | Reply

"After all this time they have yet to substantiate anything in that 'dossier'"

What's in the dossier that isn't substantiated by now?

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-07 06:35 PM | Reply

Of course Graham wants to prosecute Steele. Lindsay wants to keep that sweet Russian money pouring in.
www.dallasnews.com

#20 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2018-01-07 07:56 PM | Reply

The whole Republican Party is corrupt with ties to russia.
The R after a republicans name doesn't mean republican, it means RUSSIA!

#21 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-01-07 08:23 PM | Reply

#22 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

^ ridiculous post by a Nazi sympathizer ^

Hint: that's you Jeffry!

#23 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-01-08 12:06 AM | Reply

skip to it and murder each other. im like two arabs ahead of everyone already. 1.5 cause the guy bled to death but i didnt shoot him a turk did. also didnt give lifesaving first aid so i count it as a half point. know there is no going back after you pass that experience. Im ready.

#24 | Posted by FTP at 2018-01-08 09:56 AM | Reply

Does the original poster not know the difference between calling for an investigation and imprisonment?
"Senator Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, and Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, a senior committee member, told the Justice Department that they had reason to believe that a former British spy, Christopher Steele, lied to federal authorities about his contacts with reporters regarding information in a dossier, and they urged the department to investigate."

Nothing like a solid troll headline to drive the clicks, though.

#25 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-08 12:40 PM | Reply

#2 | POSTED BY COOKFISH

Are you sure? Because neither Senator said that. Neither Senator even tried to assess the truthfulness of the dossier.

Please post less.

#26 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-08 01:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Cookfish is an idiot. It's not a matter of him posting "less". It's a matter of him at least making some semblance of effort to be truthful.

#27 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-01-08 01:37 PM | Reply

Cookfish is an idiot. It's not a matter of him posting "less". It's a matter of him at least making some semblance of effort to be truthful.

#27 | POSTED BY MODER8

Now you are asking for the impossible.

#29 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-08 02:39 PM | Reply

#22 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Have you ever considered that maybe you are the ridiculous one? You fall hook, line and sinker for EVERY Republican lie. You are so gullible that its truly ridiculous.

#30 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-08 02:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

they urged the department to investigate."

Nothing like a solid troll headline to drive the clicks, though.

#25 | Posted by Avigdore

They want to charge Steele with 18 U.S.C. § 1001 which is a criminal charge and carries a possible 5 year prison term.

So headline is accurate.

Nothing like a solid Russian bot to come along and try and confuse the issue.

Carry on with Operation Chaos Comrade!

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-09 03:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"... it's likely that Grassley and Graham used their "criminal referral" of Christopher Steele as an effort to avoid disclosing this [Fusion GPS] transcript. Democrats had been pushing for its disclosure, and Grassley is now saying he can't release it because the contents are "under investigation." The "investigation" being his own referral to the DOJ. Feinstein said "---- that noise" and unilaterally released the transcript."
www.cnbc.com

#32 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2018-01-09 04:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No one should be surprised; Republicans hate rule of law.

#31 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Don't worry. Avigdore will reply to you and boldface your name as I did; thinking it somehow validates his delusions.

#33 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-01-09 04:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Republicans Want to Imprison Trump Dossier Author

That is not what is happening here at all. What a disingenuous headline. They are calling for an investigation into Steele because they have reason to believe that he lied to the FBI, which is a no-no, just ask Manafort or Flynn.

#34 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-09 04:50 PM | Reply

JEFF

"Republicans Want to Imprison Trump Dossier Author"

Well that's not going to happen. Diane Feinstein, senior Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, just released the transcript of Glen Simpson's (head of GPS Fusion) testimony to the House. The Republican leaders of the Judiciary Committee have been refusing to OK the release the transcript to the public for weeks.

Here's the story:

www.nytimes.com

#35 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-01-09 05:07 PM | Reply

I wasn't suggesting it was going to happen, Twin. I was refuting the headline. Graham and Grassley are requesting a targeteed investigation. Nothing more.

#36 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-09 05:20 PM | Reply

they have reason to believe that he lied to the FBI, which is a no-no, just ask Manafort or Flynn.

#34 | Posted by JeffJ

They have no reason to believe any such thing. They are just tossing crap at the wall and hoping something sticks.

But, they would sure like have a reason, any reason, to deflect the Mueller investigation.

Unfortunately for them it is highly unlikely that Steele, who is a professional analyst, made any false statements to the FBI.

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-09 05:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Graham and Grassley are requesting a targeteed investigation. Nothing more.

#36 | Posted by JeffJ

Are you really that naive?

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-09 05:23 PM | Reply

But, they would sure like have a reason, any reason, to deflect the Mueller investigation.

This is unrelated to the Mueller investigation.

#39 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-09 05:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Graham and Grassley are requesting a targeteed investigation. Nothing more."

Oh, so the headline is accurate after all.
Glad we cleared that up.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-09 05:24 PM | Reply

"This is unrelated to the Mueller investigation."

Even you don't believe that.

#41 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-01-09 05:26 PM | Reply

I love how some of you only want certain things investigated. If Steele lied to the FBI and they took actions based upon said lies, that is a problem, no matter how much you might want to believe otherwise. It's also distinctly possible that the FBI used the Steele Dossier as a justification for obtaining FISA warrants. Given that it's an opposition research document, a salacious and unverified one at that, this is also a problem, if it happened.

#42 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-09 05:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is unrelated to the Mueller investigation.

#39 | Posted by JeffJ

So you ARE that naive.

#43 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-09 05:27 PM | Reply

"I love how some of you only want certain things investigated"

Benghazi!

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-09 05:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Even you don't believe that.

#41 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Have either of these 2 Senators made any statements denigrating the Mueller investigation? No, they haven't. They've been publicly supportive. Have they taken actions behind the scenes to try and undermine the investigation? None that are even publicly known and nobody is even suggesting they have. Go where the facts lead.

#45 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-09 05:28 PM | Reply

I said multiple times, the Gowdy-lead investigation was professionally handled, for the most part. The problem was everything leading up to that investigation - all of the investigations prior to it. It was the GOP trying to make maximum political hay over it. It was wrong.

#46 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-09 05:29 PM | Reply

So you ARE that naive.

#43 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

How is it related to the Mueller investigation?

#47 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-09 05:30 PM | Reply

#44 deflection duly noted.

#48 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-09 05:30 PM | Reply

If Steele lied to the FBI and they took actions based upon said lies, that is a problem, no matter how much you might want to believe otherwise.

The information Steele supplied was raw intel. I am even betting there was a disclaimer somewhere on the report that the date has not been verified, so use are your own risk.

If it turned out to be incorrect that does not equate to a lie.

And if the FBI followed a lead and it went to a dead end that is not a "problem".

It's how these things work.

#49 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-09 05:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Re# 49

date = data

#50 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-09 05:34 PM | Reply

I'm not talking about information contained in the dossier, I am talking about the answers Steele gave to the FBI when interviewed.

#51 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-09 05:35 PM | Reply

"#44 deflection duly noted."

In response to your deflection to hypocrisy, because you're a douche, duly noted.

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-09 05:36 PM | Reply

Are you really that naive? - #38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-09 05:23 PM
No, he's that honest. What's your excuse?

Glad we cleared that up. - #40 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-09 05:24 PM |
All we've cleared up is that too many here, yourself included, don't know that there is a difference between incarceration and an investigation.

#53 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-09 05:37 PM | Reply

How is it related to the Mueller investigation?

#47 | Posted by JeffJ

Answer mine and I will answer yours.

Why does there need to be an "investigation"?

The FBI has any statements made by Steele. If at some point it turns out later (no matter how unlikely) that Steele made false statements to them and sent them on a wild goose chase they will know... they could file charges at any time... no investigation is needed.

#54 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-09 05:38 PM | Reply

"All we've cleared up is that too many here, yourself included, don't know that there is a difference between incarceration and an investigation."

When the FBI investigates things, it's things that lead to incarceration.

Stop pretending you're clever; you're not. You are simply smarter than the other morons around you.

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-09 05:38 PM | Reply

In response to your deflection to hypocrisy, because you're a douche, duly noted.

#52 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

If the shoe fits. If one doesn't want hypocrisy to be called out, one shouldn't be hypocritical. That's what a douche does.

#56 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-09 05:38 PM | Reply

"If one doesn't want hypocrisy to be called out, one shouldn't be hypocritical.

You're doublintg down on the logical fallacy, I see.

Douche away, Douchebag! (It's what you do.)

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-09 05:39 PM | Reply

@#51 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-09 05:35 PM
It is clear with his #49 that Donnerboy hasn't even read the article he's commenting about. You're arguing facts against his ignorance. You've got no chance.

#58 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-09 05:39 PM | Reply

Previous similar intel and testimony by Steele has been used by US and British agencies to bring indictments against people.

The FBI knows him and has used him as a credible source before.

#59 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-09 05:41 PM | Reply

Why does there need to be an "investigation"?

They apparently believe that a criminal act may have been committed and any criminal investigation must be carried out by the Executive - separation of powers, and all that.

#60 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-09 05:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When the FBI investigates things, it's things that lead to incarceration. - #55 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-09 05:38 PM
Births lead to deaths. That doesn't mean they're the same thing. You're wrong, and being obstinate about it.

#61 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-09 05:42 PM | Reply

"Births lead to deaths. That doesn't mean they're the same thing."

You are stupid, and a moron, and those both mean the same thing.
Here, I'll prove it, with your inability to fill in a simple little blank:
FBI criminal investigations that bear fruit result in __________ (fill in the blank).

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-09 05:43 PM | Reply

#62: Charges being filed

#63 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-09 05:44 PM | Reply

Their referral suggests that they have reason to believe Steele may have provided false information to the FBI.

So they are requesting that a criminal investigation be opened. Whilst the DOJ will give some deference to referrals of this nature, they are under no obligation to act on them. Ostensibly, in their oversight roles, these 2 Senators are likely privy to confidential information (info they can't share with the public) that leads them to their conclusion. So, in their referral they lay out their case and the FBI and DOJ make a determination if an investigation is warranted.

Way too much is being made of this.

#64 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-09 05:45 PM | Reply

The Republicans' Fake Investigations

www.drudge.com

The Fusion GPS testimony has now been released, btw, it's a back page thread.

#65 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-09 05:45 PM | Reply

#62: Charges being filed lead to ______

Keep playing a game where this doesn't end in conviction if it all goes the FBI's way okay?
You seem to be having fun so far, keep going!

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-09 05:47 PM | Reply

"Have either of these 2 Senators..."

Do you mean the one who called Trump a kook, or the one who was upset by folks calling Trump a kook?

Oh wait, both those were Lindsay Graham.

#67 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-01-09 05:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#66 a trial.
The FBI doesn't have a 'way' in the court-room. Their 'way' is to investigate and present facts. Their 'way' results in justice being doled out. Justice for the innocent is not incarceration. Your example has died.

It's not all that fun. Outsmarting you is too easy to really be fun.

#68 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-09 05:52 PM | Reply

"The FBI doesn't have a 'way' in the court-room."

So like in a case such as, I dunno, Reno vs. ACLU, the FBI isn't on one side or the other? They might be working for the ACLU, not the AG?

Go ---- yourself, you miserable troll.

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-09 05:56 PM | Reply

"Justice for the innocent is not incarceration."

It is when the innocent are found guilty.

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-09 05:57 PM | Reply

"Justice for the innocent is not incarceration."
It is when the innocent are found guilty. - #70 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-09 05:57 PM

You claim that it is justice when an innocent person is found guilty and incarcerated.
That really speaks volumes about you.

#71 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-09 06:02 PM | Reply

Way too much is being made of this.

#64 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-01-09 05:45 PM | FLAG: is fine with going after political opponents on trumped up charges

#72 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-01-09 06:18 PM | Reply

Facts

1. The Dossier is not a dossier it is a set of field notes of human intelligence gathered from interviews.

2. Said information was provided to the FBI, verbally by Mr. Steele

3. Said information would not be used to obtain warrants without checking. The information was nothing more than hear say.

4. Mr. Steele has a sterling reputation.

5. GPS Fusion is NOT a democratic organization, they are an independant research company.

6. The FBI had a source within the Trump Organization/Campaign-which would be sufficient to obtain a warrant.

Graham and Grassley are lying pieces of ----.

#73 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-09 06:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You claim that it is justice when an innocent person is found guilty and incarcerated."

I claim the Department of Justice calls it justice when they secure a conviction, regardless of whether the person convicted actually did it.

In extremely rare cases, and I do mean rare, they will admit that the product of their machinations was not justice, but rather a gross perversion thereof.

#74 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-09 06:48 PM | Reply

Give it up, JEFF

This referral to the DOJ is an obvious attempt to smear and cast doubt on Steel's credibility.

Ask yourself why the GOPers wanted to hide the transcript.

Claiming "reasons" to suspect Steel lied to the FBI (ridiculous on its face) backfired when the transcript was released to the public.

Now the public knows the truth. Grassley and Graham tried use the DOJ to pull a fast one and got caught with their pants down. (and their ding-dongs hanging out).

That's why I said ~ "It will never happen."

Diane Feinstein made sure of that.

#75 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-01-10 03:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's not all that fun. Outsmarting you is too easy to really be fun.

#68 | Posted by Avigdore

You know what is fun?

Watching you make a fool of yourself, Comrade.

The truth is out. The transcript has been released.

#76 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-10 12:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

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