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Tuesday, December 19, 2017

Careening around a curve at almost three times the speed limit, an Amtrak train derailed and hurled passenger cars off an overpass -- and onto rush hour traffic below. ... The Amtrak Cascades 501 train was carrying 86 people on its first journey on a new route from Seattle to Portland when it derailed Monday. The high-speed catastrophe killed three people and hurt more than 100. It's not clear why the train was traveling at 80 mph in a 30-mph zone, said National Transportation Safety Board member T. Bella Dinh-Zarr.

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Antifa did it.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2017-12-19 08:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Another good question is why was there a 30 mph curve on an otherwise 80 mph track?

It's going to go to driver error, but still.

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2017-12-19 08:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The railroad industry lobbied to prevent equipment from being installed which would have prevented this accident. That's a fact. The equipment has been available since before the turn of the century in 1899. They just don't want to be burdened with the cost which other nations demand of their railroad industry. No wonder we don't have 200 mile per hour trains, the people in charge of our trains don't even want to move into the 20th century in technology because it might cost them a buck...and now several more people are dead because their profits are more important than lives. America does sort of suck. Wave a flag at me and I might just stomp on your toe or worse. I'm sort of sick of "America, land of the (not)free and home of the (greedy) brave?...really....not"

#3 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-19 09:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So Snippy's hero Bill Hicks/Alex Jones was full of ---- as usual.
Go figure!

#4 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-12-19 10:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Vehicular manslaughter

#5 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-12-20 07:48 AM | Reply

Another good question is why was there a 30 mph curve on an otherwise 80 mph track?

#2 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2017-12-19 08:49 PM | FLAG:

You can't eminent domain and blast flat, straight lines everywhere you want a train to go. There are people rich enough with lawyers that will force you to go around them.

#6 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-12-20 08:00 AM | Reply

This was not a railway built for 80 mph passenger service. It was a railway built for slow freight service converted to be used for passenger service. Using existing rail lines saved a ton of money. straightening out that curve would have required a new bridge and lots of other expensive work. Amtrak has been operating on a duct tape and bubblegum budget for decades because republicans hate mass transit. We spend more money just plowing snow every winter than the total annual rail budget. Here in Wisconsin we spent more ($1.4 Billion) rebuilding one highway interchange than congress allocated to upgrade the entire line that the derailed train was travelling on ($1.2 Billion).

#7 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-12-20 09:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Another good question is why was there a 30 mph curve on an otherwise 80 mph track?

Are you expecting train tracks in Washington state to never have to deal with terrain?

#8 | Posted by rcade at 2017-12-20 11:29 AM | Reply

#7 | POSTED BY HATTER5183

Amtrak operates at a major loss. Other than in the DC area, people just don't use Amtrak all that much. That's why there's not a lot of budget for it. People do however use the roads which is why they need to be plowed. Also, snow removal isn't handled at the federal level, it's at the state and local level. One of the many reasons why Oakland county's property taxes are so much higher than Washtenaw county - they have far better snow removal service.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-12-20 03:44 PM | Reply

There are speed limits posted on rail lines just like highways. Who ever was at the controls needs to be arrested, just like a bus driver would be if he was in a wreck while he was speeding and his passengers were hurt or killed.

#10 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-12-20 03:56 PM | Reply

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"Amtrak operates at a major loss." - #9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-12-20 03:44 PM

So does NASA.

And the military.

In fact, all of government operates at a loss... some more "major" than others.

#11 | Posted by Hans at 2017-12-20 04:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#11 | Posted by Hans As far as NASA, basic research seldom pays, but the dividends from that research has been the basis of several major industries. As far as the military, I guess we could make the military profitable, the Romans did. Plus that is one of the things that is prescribed by the Constitution.

#12 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-12-20 04:28 PM | Reply

"...but the dividends..." - #12 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-12-20 04:28 PM

Yep.

Just like the dividends Amtrak provides.

#13 | Posted by Hans at 2017-12-20 04:33 PM | Reply

Amtrak operates at a major loss. Other than in the DC area, people just don't use Amtrak all that much. That's why there's not a lot of budget for it. People do however use the roads which is why they need to be plowed. Also, snow removal isn't handled at the federal level, it's at the state and local level. One of the many reasons why Oakland county's property taxes are so much higher than Washtenaw county - they have far better snow removal service.

#9 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2017-12-20 03:44 PM | REPLY

Government is not business. That is why we have a different word for it. Government cannot be run like a business because it has a different purpose. Affordable mass transit allows workers to get to where the jobs are and pays for itself in increased business activity. Just like we need to get the products to the market we need to get the workers to the companies. private cars are inefficient and costly.

#14 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-12-21 09:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Amtrak operates at a major loss. Other than in the DC area, people just don't use Amtrak all that much. That's why there's not a lot of budget for it. People do however use the roads which is why they need to be plowed. Also, snow removal isn't handled at the federal level, it's at the state and local level. One of the many reasons why Oakland county's property taxes are so much higher than Washtenaw county - they have far better snow removal service.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-12-20 03:44 PM | Reply | Flag

Amtrak is also part of the National Defense Contingency so it's necessary.

#15 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-12-21 11:20 AM | Reply

#7 "Amtrak has been operating on a duct tape and bubblegum budget for decades because republicans hate mass transit."

That's why, when the Democrats controlled Congress and the White House, the budget was increased to appropriate levels and President Obama signed it into law.

After that happened, the Republicans took over the House, but not the Senate, and reduced the budget to duct tape and bubblegum and the Senate and President Obama signed those changes into law.

#16 | Posted by Petrous at 2017-12-21 12:07 PM | Reply

"Amtrak operates at a major loss." - #9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-12-20 03:44 PM

So does NASA.

And the military.

In fact, all of government operates at a loss... some more "major" than others.

#11 | Posted by Hans at 2017-12-20 04:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

The military loses $800 BILLION every year. Hell I just saw in the paper that the Navy's newest ship, The Little Rock, is stuck in the river because it BROKE DOWN.

#17 | Posted by 726 at 2017-12-21 12:07 PM | Reply

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