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Wednesday, December 20, 2017

The anti-fascism movement, "antifa," which is more of a protesting tactic than a formal group, has been the subject of blame in a growing number of bizarre -- and false -- conspiracy theories floated by right-wing pundits in recent months. Take the mass shooting in Las Vegas that claimed scores of lives: Antifa was not involved, despite a theory otherwise. Then, antifa was blamed for a fake civil war plot. It never happened because such a thing was never planned. Antifa was also blamed for a mass shooting in a Texas church. Again, the shooting had nothing to do with anti-fascism, or with left-wing protesters in general.

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On Monday, some of the usual conspiracy theory suspects -- conservative media personality Mike Cernovich, President Donald Trump mega-fan Jack Posobiec, the far-right website Gateway Pundit and Alex Jones's InfoWars -- all brought up antifa in the context of a fatal train derailment in Washington state, and they did so before investigators had even announced any formal explanation for the crash.

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"Anti-fascist activists have expressed frustration to Newsweek over having to repeatedly push back against a wave of what they call baseless conspiracy theories attached to their protests this year. They argue that the conspiracies are being spun deliberately and in bad faith. One compared the trend to the demonization of environmentalists and Black Lives Matter activists."

#1 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-12-19 12:52 AM | Reply

Antifa should realize that those who express these conspiracy theories have an agenda; to normalize Nazis and Fascists. A******s like Alex Jones are part of their team. Jones is a Nazi.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-19 07:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

There are lots of conspiracies that Antifa can be accused of. Conspiracy to shut down traffic...conspiracy to destroy property...conspiracy to spraypaint...but one thing they have never seemed to be interested in doing is killing people. And they've been around for a very, very long time.

#3 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-12-19 09:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Conspiracy to shut down traffic...conspiracy to destroy property...conspiracy to spraypaint...but one thing they have never seemed to be interested in doing is killing people."

Anyone can accuse anyone else of a conspiracy to do almost anything anytime and Alex Jones does it every day. Truth doesn't matter with the extreme right, they lie with impunity every single day. I won't claim the left doesn't make mistakes but they do not purposely lie every single day and still enjoy the listenership of millions. Stupidity can be blamed for some of their support but not all of it, one has to realize that a good portion of their listenership knows they are lying and supports the liars because they believe (correctly) that it moves their agenda.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-19 09:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Lol I don't think anticancer did this one, amtrack did. I don't expect hacks to listen to IBD but they have a good link about the very public warnings regarding this new tracks risks.

komonews.com

Oh and the train actually had the Obama "positive train control" yet it was still 50 mph over safe speed.

www.wsdot.wa.gov

#5 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2017-12-19 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Deadweave, The system has been used successfully for decades in Europe. Your trash-brain attempt to place "Obama" in front of the "Positive Train Control" is duly noted.

Perhaps waiting for the NTSB report would be a good idea.

#6 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2017-12-19 04:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And Sniper posted it here like the rube he is.

#8 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-12-20 09:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oh and the train actually had the Obama "positive train control" yet it was still 50 mph over safe speed.
www.wsdot.wa.gov

#5 | POSTED BY DAVETHEWAVE

It wasn't turned on yet on that portion of the track as it was still being tested.

The deadline was pushed from December 2015 to December 2018 by a Republican Congress unwilling to fund its implementation.

You are too dumb to post here.

#9 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-12-20 09:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 10

Don't blame Dave for lying, it's in his DNA. He has no choice.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-20 09:56 AM | Reply

Don't blame Dave for lying, it's in his DNA. He has no choice.

#10 | POSTED BY DANNI

He is the epitome of ---- Poster. He posts garbage and then runs away.

#11 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-12-20 10:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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There are lots of conspiracies that Antifa can be accused of. Conspiracy to shut down traffic...conspiracy to destroy property...conspiracy to spraypaint...but one thing they have never seemed to be interested in doing is killing people. And they've been around for a very, very long time.

#3 | Posted by madbomber

You forgot conspiracy to resist nazis, while trump's supporters support them.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-12-20 11:13 AM | Reply

My problem with Antifa, BLM, etc., isn't with the organizations themselves or what they stand for; it's the nagging suspicion (which history bears out) that quasi-COINTELPRO operations targeting them could very well mean that agents provocateurs of various stripes - including local, state, and federal law enforcement - might actually try something as cockamamie as derailing a train, in order to discredit those organizations. We've seen such things happen before: Operation Flex (www.thenation.com), The Newburgh Sting (www.npr.org), etc. ad infinitum. That one of these types of operations might get out-of-hand and lead to the deaths of innocent people isn't a stretch of the imagination. So I stay away from joining anything nowadays (former member of the Socialist Party USA - a Eugene V. Debs fan, don't you know).

#13 | Posted by Karabekian at 2017-12-20 12:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#13 | Posted by Karabekian

Don't forget the bankers infiltrating OWS and starting riots and -------- on police cars to get the public to turn against OWS while the bankers were destroying the economy.

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-12-20 01:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#14 Indeed! I once read that in the late 1960's and early 1970's some targeted student groups and civil rights groups had as many infiltrators as bona fide members. The FBI used the same strategy against neo-fascist groups, as well.

#15 | Posted by Karabekian at 2017-12-20 01:37 PM | Reply

So Bill Hicks-Jones lying Nazi ass was wrong as I said he was.

#16 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-12-20 03:05 PM | Reply

Way to go SNIPER!! Your fake news and the gullible schmucks like you who spread it made the real news!!

Enjoy your 15 seconds of shame. It's the closest you will ever get to fame

#17 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-12-20 03:42 PM | Reply

"but one thing they have never seemed to be interested in doing is killing people"

That must be a real disappointment for you, MadBomber.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-20 09:46 PM | Reply

Lies and the lying liars who tell them.

#19 | Posted by cbob at 2017-12-21 01:12 PM | Reply

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