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Sunday, December 17, 2017

The Trump administration intends to examine whether it should weaken rules aimed at fighting black lung among coal miners, a move the administration says could create a "less burdensome" regulatory environment for coal companies. As part of his mission to drastically cut federal regulations, President Donald Trump appeared to indicate Thursday that he is willing to risk greater harm to workers, including stymieing efforts to reduce black lung in coal communities, to appease his deep-pocketed corporate supporters. This anti-regulation effort stands in stark relief to Trump's rhetoric -- starting in his days on the campaign trail -- that continually portrays himself as pro-coal miner.

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He can drop all the regulations he wants, thermal coal mining is not coming back.

Coal is a ---- fuel. The whole planet is swimming in cheap natural gas.

#1 | Posted by REDIAL at 2017-12-16 06:54 PM | Reply

Trump likes coal miners who don't get black lung.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-17 01:19 PM | Reply

Real coal miners get the black lung and shop at the company store, if that Oxy don't get ‘em first...
-- MAGA-hat heads

#3 | Posted by catdog at 2017-12-17 04:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He is going to bring back the coal mining jobs. And then he's going to bring back buggy-whip manufacturing and blacksmithy. Get rid of diesel locomotives and bring back the coal-fired ones. That would mean more jobs, right? And then we're going to party like it's 1899. MAGA!

#4 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2017-12-17 07:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I am personally glad we don't use as much coal as we used to, I don't like strip mines and a little known fact, Texas has vast coal reserves. The one area we need coal is for steel. That makes it a strategic resource. BTW, we can make gasoline and natural gas from coal, that tech has been around sense the 19th century.

#5 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-12-18 09:02 AM | Reply

The article quotes experts who agree that reducing the standards will not bring back more coal jobs.

I'll be surprised if MSHA actually implements anything to lower standards.

#6 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-18 09:32 AM | Reply

Eberly, have you been paying attention at all? Regulations and standards that have been in place for decades across both R & D administrations that were nearly universally agreed to be important are being cut/whacked/hacked for no other reason that some coal baron/oil exec/investment banker that Trump has appointed wants it done.

#7 | Posted by Reagan58 at 2017-12-18 10:12 AM | Reply

Do you want cheap services or do you want people to live comfortably without fear of serious illness? That's what this comes down to. I bet anything that by the end of Trump's Presidency, we will be much better off financially. Unfortunately, that comes at the cost of being much less healthy and insured. So the Reps can say they won because we all have more money and things cost less and woo hoo!!! But in reality it is at the expense of humanitarian goals.

The problem with the GOP is they still think that prices actually fall for services when a company is doing good, which doesn't happen anymore. If a service goes up to $10 but then their costs decrease, they don't just say "Oh, wow, more money, let's give it all away!". Nope, they keep the service the same price and expand budgets internally and give more bonuses. Happens all the time, especially in the high-velocity packaged food industry.

#8 | Posted by humtake at 2017-12-18 12:14 PM | Reply

"Regulations and standards..........are being cut/whacked/hacked."

With regard specifically to coal mines? I won't say I've been paying that much attention to it.

What regulations and standards have been cut, lowered, etc?

This article is quoting rhetoric from trump and that's it.

#9 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-18 12:14 PM | Reply

"What regulations and standards have been cut, lowered, etc?"

Damn son, you think we are google? You say you are not paying attention and you want us to fill you in?

Why would you start believing us now. Many of us here have been warning you for years what was going to happen and now it is happening and you stopped paying attention?

You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him think.

Educate yourself. WE are not your google hamsters.

bfy.tw

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-12-18 01:15 PM | Reply

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The one area we need coal is for steel. That makes it a strategic resource.

Steelmaking coal is relatively rare. The vast majority of it is thermal.

#11 | Posted by REDIAL at 2017-12-18 01:43 PM | Reply

If we were to use coal only for those things for which there is no practical substitute (and same for petroleum, e.g. plastics, pharmaceuticals) we would be a lot better off.

#12 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2017-12-18 04:03 PM | Reply

Reagan, what regulations and standards for coal have been cut/whacked, etc?

#13 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-18 08:04 PM | Reply

Reagan, what regulations and standards for coal have been cut/whacked, etc?

#13 | Posted by eberly

Howbout the one the thread is about for starters.

Then a simply google would provide these:

news.nationalgeographic.com

www.nytimes.com

www.hcn.org

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-12-18 08:44 PM | Reply

"What regulations and standards have been cut, lowered, etc?"

Ones you don't give two ----- about, so why pretend to care?

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-18 08:55 PM | Reply

14

But then you'd have to read them....which you didn't.

I will. I saw 1 that specifically related to coal.

Perhaps there are more.

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-18 08:56 PM | Reply

"Ones you don't give two ----- about, so why pretend to care?"

Here's a quarter. go play a video game or something, punk.

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-18 08:57 PM | Reply

I will. I saw 1 that specifically related to coal.

Perhaps there are more.

#16 | Posted by eberly

So is coal the only area of pollution and environmental destruction you care about?

Trump is aiming to be the worst president for the environment since the industrial revolution. He thinks it makes him manly or something. Those wussy libs care about the planet. Therefore real men need to trash it.

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-12-18 09:06 PM | Reply

"Here's a quarter. go play a video game or something, punk."

Hmmm. I see you made an unforced grammatical error, failing to capitalize the first word of a sentence.

Let's dig a little deeper into what's really bothering you, Eberly.

Tell me... about your mother.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-18 09:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"So is coal the only area of pollution and environmental destruction you care about?"

Nope. It's the only one I asked about. The thread is specifically about black lung. I merely commented on what I believe MSHA will do.

I don't claim to know this issue thoroughly but I could google it and pretend if that makes you feel better.

#20 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-18 10:19 PM | Reply

The thread is specifically about black lung. I merely commented on what I believe MSHA will do.

Good bet you are correct. Also a good bet industry players will stick something in front of donald that he will sign.

Still won't bring jobs back to the thermal coal industry.

#21 | Posted by REDIAL at 2017-12-18 10:28 PM | Reply

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Agreed.

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-18 10:36 PM | Reply

I'll be surprised if MSHA actually implements anything to lower standards.

#6 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-18 09:32 AM | Reply

If it can make the coal mining company $1 more in profits no matter how many lives it costs the regulations will be cut.

#23 | Posted by 726 at 2017-12-19 07:35 AM | Reply

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