Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Saturday, December 09, 2017

Social scientist Bella DePaulo, Washington Post: I spent the first two decades of my career as a social scientist studying liars and their lies. I thought I had developed a sense of what to expect from them. Then along came President Trump. His lies are both more frequent and more malicious than ordinary people's. ... A more recent study of the lies 1,000 U. S. adults told in the previous 24 hours found that people told an average of 1.65 lies per day; the authors noted that 60 percent of the participants said they told no lies at all, while the top 5 percent of liars told nearly half of all the falsehoods in the study. In Trump's first 298 days in office, however, he made 1,628 false or misleading claims or flip-flops, by The Post's tally. That's about six per day, far higher than the average rate in our studies.

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And of course, reporters have access to only a subset of Trump's false statements -- the ones he makes publicly -- so unless he never stretches the truth in private, his actual rate of lying is almost certainly higher.

That rate has been accelerating. Starting in early October, The Post's tracking showed that Trump told a remarkable nine lies a day, outpacing even the biggest liars in our research.

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There are sociologists and psychiatrists that never thought they would ever have the chance in their lifetime to study this quality walking talking public model of so many chronic textbook personality disorders. Some of the books and studies that they write will make their careers.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-09 11:19 PM | Reply


Somehow, and for some strange reason, this seems apropos...

Steve Forbert - Make It All So Real
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#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-12-09 11:24 PM | Reply

If Trump has been anything other than a SOB born to wealth someone would have taken a baseball bat to his kneecaps about time he hit his twenties to teach him a lesson about manners and lies.

#3 | Posted by Tor at 2017-12-09 11:25 PM | Reply

Well, every time he says the tax bill is a middle class tax cut that'll drive up wages and jobs, that's three right there.

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-12-09 11:55 PM | Reply

I'm wondering when someone is going to take it upon themselves to put an end to Trump ~ permanently. We have a lot of people in this country who are a couple shades crazier than he is.

And please don't pretend we haven't all thought the same thing.

#5 | Posted by Twinpac at 2017-12-10 12:10 AM | Reply

There are thousands of pathological liars just like Trump. None have been as successful. Most of them end up in prison. But so far, his most prominent victims have been Banks, whose thieving dwarfs anything Trump is capable of, at least until he became President. The Banks found themselves in a position where they thought they would lose more by tarnishing the Trump brand, even as they cut him off. I doubt SCOTUS has the integrity to hold Trump responsible for his crimes and I'm sure his illiterate followers will go ------- if he is even charged. Sadly, these facts reflect our decline as a beacon of hope in this world.

#6 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-12-10 06:44 AM | Reply

Also: www.drudge.com

#7 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-12-10 08:48 AM | Reply

An old boss told me that the best way to punish someone is to humiliate them using their virtues against them. An example would be publically reprimanding a perfectionist by accusing him of incompetence.

If you don't pretend to have any virtues, then no-one can punish you.

Child molester? So what.
Rapist? So what.
Murderer? So what.
Thief? So what.
Lazy bum? So what.
Liar? So what.

#8 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-12-10 08:54 AM | Reply

"... A more recent study of the lies 1,000 U. S. adults told in the previous 24 hours found that people told an average of 1.65 lies per day; the authors noted that 60 percent of the participants said they told no lies at all, while the top 5 percent of liars told nearly half of all the falsehoods in the study. "

Are you sure that wasn't an income survey?

#9 | Posted by LEgregius at 2017-12-10 10:36 AM | Reply

Social scientist Bella DePaulo writes about lies and liars. How much is science? What is her accuracy? Predictive ability? If she could tell if an individual was actually lying, she could be making a comfortable income working for a government contractor or as a consultant for private business- she doesn't. She writes books for the lay public. As far as Trump, that damn Yankee in the White House, he is a salesman, he will flatter, please, and press the hard sell. He sells himself. He is the brand. He has lost and he has won in business ventures. But the win list is considerably longer. He can be petty, vindictive and myopic. But he can also be generous, altruistic and fair. He is a performer. As far as presidents lying, he would have to go further to match some of the more notorious lairs that have held that office. Bill Clinton and Lindon Johnson come to mind.

#10 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-12-11 10:11 AM | Reply

I guess a lot of you sleep well at night by blaming all your problems on Trump. Why can't you just leave it at that and stop thinking the world needs to hear that you don't like someone who is President?

#11 | Posted by humtake at 2017-12-11 11:46 AM | Reply

"If she could tell if an individual was actually lying, she could be making a comfortable income working for a government contractor or as a consultant for private business- she doesn't."

Here's a thing about academia:

You can make much more money working for someone else.

But when you have your own lab, you get to be your own boss.

Now I can understand why a good little order taking soldier such as yourself doesn't really grasp what it means to be your own boss, but take my word for it, some people would rather be their own boss than work for somebody else at ten tines the money.

Since all you love and understand is money, I'm sure you're very confused right now!

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-11 12:18 PM | Reply

#12 | Posted by snoofy, Actually I have run a few businesses, both as a manager and as a owner. I actually had more freedom of action as a Motor Sargent. What did I hate most about owning a business? The books and paying someone about a grand every year to file my taxes. Eighty hour weeks get old in a few years. After selling my business for a profit, I basically made less than minimum wadge averaged over three years.

#13 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-12-11 05:25 PM | Reply

The best practices that come out of academia are reserved for public consumption. The best practices that come out of private enterprise are for private consumption tied to revenue generation.

Which would you prefer there to be more of?

#14 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2017-12-11 05:36 PM | Reply

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