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Saturday, December 09, 2017

A Democratic Party working group will meet in Washington, D.C. today and tomorrow to finalize a formal list of recommended reforms for the party. ... Sources close to the commission who have seen working drafts of its current report tell ABC News the panel plans to recommend dramatic cuts to the individual voting power of superdelegates and new rules around caucuses and primaries to improve access for voters and recordkeeping. ... Sources close to the commission say the group's likely recommendation on superdelegates will be for some select superdelegates such as Congress members, governors and former presidents to continue as unbound superdelegates, but to change the rest of the system so the votes of all other superdelegates are pooled or bound in another way to match up with to the popular vote totals from their respective states.

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Sources tell ABC the group will also likely recommend that caucus states allow absentee voting, written votes to facilitate recounts, and record-keeping -- all of which would enable voters who can't participate in long caucus events to quickly write and submit a first-round vote and leave.

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... dramatic cuts to the individual voting power of superdelegates ...

Yea.

The concept of a super delegate can be a good one, IF and ONLY IF it cannot be used for entrenchment.

I do like the concept of a super delegate as sort of a rolling average type of thing, to temper very short term, and possibly destructive, blips in public opinion. I look at the super delegate as similar to a CEO that looks more towards the longer term than the immediate, more towards the Country than the immediate local area.

Having said that, the super delegates in 2016 ran completely counter to my opinion of being leadership rather than a power grab.

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-12-09 07:57 PM | Reply

Do away with the super delegates all together would be the right thing to do
but your not going to get the party hacks to go along with that

#2 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-12-09 08:34 PM | Reply

@#2 ... Do away with the super delegates all together would be the right thing to do ...

If a choice between what happened with the Democrats in 2016 and what you proffer, I would agree with what you proffer. Hands down. Easy decision.

Yeah, get rid of 'em.

On the other hand, if there is more of a selection, then the strategic part of me doesn't want short term blips to be able to hijack a party.

Look what happened to the Republicans under the guise of "popularism." They were hijacked by Wall Street and corporate interests.

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-12-09 09:11 PM | Reply

Superdelagates was a bad idea, hope it finally goes away permantly. One man one vote, in primaries too.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-09 09:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Do away with the super delegates all together would be the right thing to do
but your not going to get the party hacks to go along with that"

Doing away with caucuses is also the right thing to do, but you're not going to get that with Bernie Bros in charge of the DNC.

#5 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-12-09 10:55 PM | Reply


@#4 ... Superdelagates was a bad idea, hope it finally goes away permantly. One man one vote, in primaries too. ...

I cannot say that I agree with that.

One person, one vote, absolutely. But that is not the discussion here.

At the party level, it is a different story. The Party is a concept you subscribe to. If you don't like it, you don't have to vote for it. Case in point, many people did not like the concept the DNC offered, so they voted for candidate Trump.

I think that the platform of a Party should have some manner of a rolling average, a leveling effect that does not subject it to the year-to-year whims of what is occurring in the political space.

The political party should be a leveling aspect that takes into account trends and moves accordingly, but does not subject itself to the whiplash of month-to-month opinion changes.

In reality, you may actually be arguing against our two party system, so if that is really your concern, you should just say so up front....

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-12-09 11:04 PM | Reply

The superdelegates' only purpose this last time was to hammer the process with Hillary's inevitability. Just a terrible idea to use them to sway voters like that. All it did was prop up a weak candidate. The challenger didn't stand a chance against that kind of entrenchment coupled with all of the back door rigging on her behalf. In the end, the Dems ended up being served possibly the only viable candidate who could actually fail against Trump. Trump didn't win so much as Hillary fumbled the election, because she was a craptastic candidate. Many of us tried to warn you.

#7 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-12-10 11:37 AM | Reply

Democrat leadership doesn't want democracy democracy, just enough illusion of it to fool the useful idiots. They'll pick the candidate and you're free to vote for her.

#8 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-12-10 11:40 AM | Reply

The superdelegates' only purpose this last time was to hammer the process with Hillary's inevitability.

It was inevitbale once Joe Biden decided not to run...what other Dems were there?

#9 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-12-10 12:36 PM | Reply

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