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Friday, December 08, 2017

The Atlantic: It's been two months since the reckoning began. In early October, The New York Times and The New Yorker first published the alarming accounts of women who said they'd been assaulted by Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein. Rare is the day since then that women, and some men, haven't come forward with accounts of sexual misconduct from famous and not-so-famous men alike. Lurking in the background of the roiling debate about harassment and assault in American society are the allegations made against President Trump by at least 19 women, many of whom came forward after the release of the Access Hollywood tape in October 2016. Trump vociferously denies any wrongdoing. "Is the official White House position that all of these women are lying?" a reporter asked Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, in late October. "Yeah, we've been clear on that from the beginning, and the president's spoken on it," Sanders replied.

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Some of the women's stories date back to the 1980s when Trump's personal relationships were fixtures of the New York City tabloids; others begin after he returned to the public eye with his NBC series The Apprentice. Their accounts describe a wide range of alleged behavior, including lewd remarks, overt harassment, groping, and sexual assault. One woman, Summer Zervos, is currently suing the president for defamation after he repeatedly called her and the others liars. What follows are details from each accuser -- listed alphabetically -- and the president's corresponding defense.

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Some women forgotten by the #metoo movement:

'My pain is everyday': After Weinstein's fall, Trump accusers wonder: Why not him?

www.washingtonpost.com

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-12-08 12:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The "irony" of Franken's coming risgnation is too great to ignore and I believe a gound swell of support for him should attempt to convince him to reconsider. Or if he insists on resigning make it contingent upon waiting for Trump's resignation before he resigns.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-08 01:25 PM | Reply

1 accuser of America's President (an ex-wife) disputes that she even accused that American President of Sexual Misconduct, 2 accuse him of looking at them in preparation of a beauty contest he was running, 1 accuses him of looking at them as they walked on a table, and 15 other Franken-esque accusations, almost twice as many as accused Franken.

The same as I feel about Franken, I believe that his accusers should have the ability to make their claims and provide evidence under oath. I also believe that neither should have relinquished their position until such times as the veracity of those claims had been verified.

One major difference between Sen Franken and America's President is that these claims came to light prior to the voters making their decisions at the ballot box. Enough voters in enough states cast their votes with the knowledge that these accusations had been made. I think it would be perfectly fine for Sen. Franken to run again for his own seat in the next election to give the voters an opportunity to make their decision about his ability to represent them in Congress.

#3 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-12-08 01:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"1 accuser of America's President (an ex-wife) disputes that she even accused that American President of Sexual Misconduct"

I wouldn't call rape sexual misconduct:

The Time Donald Trump's Ex-Wife Accused Him of Brutally Raping Her

gawker.com

"2 accuse him of looking at them in preparation of a beauty contest he was running,"

Running the pageant didn't give him permission to ogle them behind the scenes despite the fact he thought/claimed it did.

"and 15 other Franken-esque accusations, almost twice as many as accused Franken."

I've heard it said that the photo of Franken fake groping Tweeden is what did him in. Well, here's a video of Trump grabbing a woman by the waist (1 of the accusations against Franken) and also touching her breast (another accusation against Franken):

twitter.com

#4 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-12-08 02:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The same as I feel about Franken, I believe that his accusers should have the ability to make their claims and provide evidence under oath.

#3 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

Where and how? They going to sue him? Most can't because of the statute of limitations.

#5 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-12-08 02:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Donald Trump will be fine. Republicans have zero morals.

As long as Trump hates Muslims abortions and liberals, he could nuke California and win reelection.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-12-08 02:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"and 15 other Franken-esque accusations, almost twice as many as accused Franken."

That's not completely true. A number of the claims are similar, but so far no one has accused Franken of reaching up her skirt and touching her vagina.

#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-12-08 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Franken is accused of inappropriate "posing" for a photograph - that single image utilized to undermine the context. Yes, he was deliberately creepy in the shot, the "female" is hardly recognizable as female. That is the obvious college humor punchline. He was there to support the troops, performing some skits and in general support their existence in a distant outpost. They could have been attacked, so many things could happen in a war zone. Also, isn't his accuser a Hannity pal?

Trump turned his helicopter away from the direction of the NORK border because of fog. He is accused of legitimate leering, grossly indecent timing and ridiculous statements such as unexpectedly grabbing for strangers vaginas.

One man performs his duties in public office for years now, legislates for transparency and is despised by the Republican party.

The other man lies at every turn, obstructs truth at every turn and is the Republican darling for maintaining their veil.

#8 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2017-12-08 03:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

"and 15 other Franken-esque accusations, almost twice as many as accused Franken."
#3 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

Is this one the 15 other Franken-esque accusations? Katie Johnson ring any bells? Epstein and Trump ring any bells?
You Tube - Trump accused of Rape

#9 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-12-08 05:07 PM | Reply

The funny thing about some of the Franken accuser's photo ops - at least the couple I have seen - they look perfectly comfortable and normal. I personally find that just weird. If someone grabs my butt I react...

#10 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-12-08 05:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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Yes, he was deliberately creepy in the shot, the "female" is hardly recognizable as female.

Leeann Tweeden is wearing a flak jacket over her chest, showing even more that Franken's hovering grope was just a joke.

Here are photos of that woman on the same USO Tour grabbing a male singer's butt onstage and kissing a soldier unexpectedly:

verifiedpolitics.com

The same link shows Tweeden misrepresented Franken's kiss skit, making it seem like something unsavory he created just to mack on her.

The skit was about Franken writing a skit to get a female USO performer to kiss him. The punchline is that she figures it out and kisses a soldier in the front row instead.

#11 | Posted by rcade at 2017-12-08 06:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Former Fox Anchor Says Trump Once Tried to Kiss Her

www.hollywoodreporter.com

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-12-08 09:42 PM | Reply

trump is a rapist, a sexual assaulter, a possible child molester and a definite child molestation apologist. And his supporters are apologists as well.

#13 | Posted by klifferd at 2017-12-09 01:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Rep. Alcee L. Hastings (D-Fla.) was accused of sexual harassment and the settlement cost the taxpayer $220,000, a report from Roll Call claimed Friday.

What were the accusations?

A former congressional staff member named Winsome Packer claimed that the representative "touched her, made unwanted sexual advances, and threatened her job."

She was stationed in Vienna and was required to travel with Hastings to other foreign countries. She said in her lawsuit that Hastings repeatedly asked to stay at her apartment or to visit her hotel room. Packer also said he frequently hugged her, and once asked her what kind of underwear she was wearing.

She filed a complaint with the Office of Compliance in 2010, and sued Hastings in 2011. That lawsuit was dismissed in 2012, and an ethics investigation in the matter was dismissed in 2014. However, the settlement came through the Senate Chief Counsel for Employment from the treasury.

What was Hastings response?

In a statement to Roll Call Friday, he called the accusations "ludicrous" and said he didn't even know about the settlement previously.

#14 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-09 10:42 AM | Reply

#14 Why do you care pedo-bro? You support rapists and pedos.

#15 | Posted by bored at 2017-12-09 12:02 PM | Reply

This is what we get when the penalty for making false accusations is non-existent.

#16 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-12-09 01:24 PM | Reply

Where and how? They going to sue him? Most can't because of the statute of limitations. - #5 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-12-08 02:44 PM
What is the statute of limitations on a civil case?

Also, isn't his accuser a Hannity pal? - #8 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2017-12-08 03:45 PM
Are you really not aware that at least 8 different women have accused Sen. Franken of sexual misconduct?

One man performs his duties in public office for years now, legislates for transparency and is despised by the Republican party.
The other man lies at every turn, obstructs truth at every turn and is the Republican darling for maintaining their veil.- #8 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2017-12-08 03:45 PM

Both very true statements. Neither statement means anything when determining someone guilt or innocence of an allegation. The worst people in the world are still due their day in court and presumption of innocence.

#17 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-12-09 01:48 PM | Reply

Most Americans want Trump investigated for alleged sexual misconduct, poll finds

70% of Americans believe the U.S. Congress should investigate allegations of sexual harassment against President Trump, a new Quinnipiac University poll finds. 25% say Trump should not be investigated.

The party breakdown: Of registered voters surveyed, 86% of Democrats, 39% of Republicans and 66% of Independents want a congressional probe into Trump's alleged behavior. Asked if they think its hypocritical for Trump to criticize men accused of harassment, 73% responded yes -- including 94% of Democrats, 46% of Republicans and 71% of Independents.

www.axios.com

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-12-09 01:55 PM | Reply

"Are you really not aware that at least 8 different women have accused Sen. Franken of sexual misconduct?"

Another difference between Trump and Franken at this time is that number of Franken's accusers are anonymous.

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-12-09 01:57 PM | Reply

at this time is that number of Franken's accusers are anonymous. - #19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-12-09 01:57 PM

Anonymous to you and I, but not to the reporters and media reporting on them. That's one of the things that the action of James O'Keefe have shown is that the news organizations are doing a decent job of verifying the claims of women prior to giving them a public voice.

#20 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-12-09 02:29 PM | Reply

#20 If half of Trump's accusers were anonymous to the public and to Trump himself, I dare say they would be even more easily dismissed by him and by Republicans. I understand why some accusers don't want to be named, but when you are talking about someone in public office, on either side of the aisle, I think someone besides the news outlets should know their names and vet them.

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-12-09 02:38 PM | Reply

"Anonymous to you and I, but not to the reporters and media reporting on them."

And to Franken himself. How do people respond to anonymous accusations against? I guess that's the point: In this new #metoo era, the accused does need or get to respond. They are automatically assumed to be guilty, because we must always believe all the brave women speaking up, even the anonymous ones.

#22 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-12-09 02:48 PM | Reply

"In this new #metoo era, the accused does need or get to respond."

That is also true when applying title ix.

This lowers the bar even further.

#23 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-12-10 01:52 PM | Reply

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