Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Thursday, December 07, 2017

Sean King: This is where progressives find themselves. When the preferred progressive candidate doesn't win, either because they ran a bad campaign, struggled in the two-party system, or lacked the support they needed in other ways, progressives too often proceed to tear down the establishment candidate. I'm not speaking in code here about Hillary Clinton, either. I've seen this in races all over the country. Progressives are terrible losers. And don't get me wrong: I hate losing, too. I despise it. But when my preferred candidate loses, I simply don't feel like I have the right to set the whole election ablaze.

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Keisha Lance Bottoms is not perfect. Hell, if you thought Vincent Fort was perfect, you probably aren't from Atlanta. But I have to be honest with you: Hating good candidates because they aren't perfect is getting old. Critique their policies. Investigate their decision-making and financing. Do those things! But when a race comes down to a left-leaning Democrat and a right-leaning conservative, stop pretending like they are one in the same. Stop acting like the Democrat has cooties. Stop acting like you are so holy that you can't lower yourself to vote or support a person endorsed by the establishment.

This type of thinking loses important elections and puts real people in harm's way.

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In some ways Atlanta is like Chicago-lite: years of corruption among the top politicians and city leaders.

#1 | Posted by AKat at 2017-12-07 04:38 PM | Reply

It's not just progressives. No one compromises anymore. Re:Merrick Garland

#2 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2017-12-08 12:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

summery of article if you think the person running is a terrible person and will hurt the state or country if they have a D next to their name you should vote for them anyway because you know their not repubs.

complete bunk

#3 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-12-08 01:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#3 | POSTED BY PUNCHYPOSSU

While you wax theoretically, Republican are literally (I avoid this word often, but it's more than appropriate now) doing and expressing through the exact words from their mouths with regards to Moore.

#4 | Posted by memyselfini at 2017-12-08 02:20 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Liberals always compromise. It's part of our nature and is the reason conservatives walk all over us.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-12-08 02:39 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 6

Aaron Tippin had it correct.

www.youtube.com

#6 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-12-08 03:51 AM | Reply

#4 | Posted by memyselfini at 2017-12-08 02:20 AM |

why yes the party is far more important then policies, the party uber alles
of course

#7 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-12-08 04:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Liberals always compromise. It's part of our nature and is the reason conservatives walk all over us.

Yep, you compromised soooo much on ObamaCare..***rolls eyes****

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2017-12-08 07:21 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"you compromised soooo much on ObamaCare."

Obamacare was based on a Republican concept.

And a good one, at that: it was all based on personal responsibility, and there was a mandate, and price supports. You know...all the stuff every mindful group embraces, once they're tasked with solving the problems while leaving politics outside the door.

If you want to roll your eyes, do it at the folks who are too intellectually lazy to discover the truth.

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-12-08 07:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2017-12-08 07:21 AM |

The idea of Obama care came from a Repub think tank so it was a huge compromise with the repubs from the very beginning

#10 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-12-08 07:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

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"it was a huge compromise with the repubs from the very beginning"

As was taking single-payer off the table.

#11 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-12-08 07:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Guys,

Yea, State supported healthcare is good for individual states, but not for an entire country such as the U.S.. Too many people lose in that situation, as we have seen. Our country is too big for one size fits all healthcare.

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2017-12-08 07:33 AM | Reply | Funny: 5

"Yea, State supported healthcare is good for individual states, but not for an entire country such as the U.S.."

States are supposed to be the labs, remember?

"Too many people lose in that situation, as we have seen."

Fat talk, from someone who has been given health care for decades.

"Our country is too big for one size fits all healthcare."

Large countries like France and the UK have solved this problem: they cover the vast majority of their populace, for a lower percentage of GDP, with better measurable results. 'Murica believes it knows better, while math says otherwise.

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-12-08 07:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Yea, State supported healthcare is good for individual states, but not for an entire country such as the U.S.. Too many people lose in that situation, as we have seen. Our country is too big for one size fits all healthcare.

Posted by boaz at 2017-12-08 07:33 AM | Reply

BS We can do it. We will have no other choice soon. Single Payer is coming. Get on board or get left behind like so much chaff

#14 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-12-08 07:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

summery of article if you think the person running is a terrible person and will hurt the state or country if they have a D next to their name you should vote for them anyway because you know their not repubs.
complete bunk

#3 | POSTED BY PUNCHYPOSSUM AT 2017-12-08 01:29 AM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 1

This is not a good summary of the author's thoughts.

I know you're bitter because Bernie promised you things and left you in the wet spot but you're not fooling anyone pretending you're anything but a sour grape.

#15 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-12-08 08:02 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" Single Payer is coming. Get on board or get left behind like so much chaff"

If we ever get a majority in Congress but as we see with Obamacare, the Republicans will do everything they can to undermine it. Real Single Payer will require a large and enthusiastic majority of support and, unfortunately, Americans are too easily divided over abortion, gays, gun. Americans will shoot ourselves in the foot and then not be able to afford medical treatment. About half of us will think that is victory.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-08 08:11 AM | Reply

what you get when liberals don't compromise are things like the ACA, gay marriage, legalized pot, equal rights for all, and in general the country becomes more prosperous.... historical fact.

Really the list is endless... the pigs will oink and snort complaining about the taxes to fulfil the liberal agenda but in the end the nation does move in that direction and somehow things get paid for.... unlike the republiclowns that promise a war that will cost 8-9 billion at the outside...ppppffffffttttttt then complain about the budget.

Conservatrons are stupid pure and simple.

#17 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2017-12-08 08:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#15 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-12

the article makes a it plain that the author thinks you should vote Dem even if you think the Dem candidate was a terrible person simply because he is not a repub

by the way dont you think you should get over the whole bernie was a terrible person because he ran against hillary crap you have going on, if bernie said good morning you would call him a liar.

#18 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-12-08 09:35 AM | Reply

"by the way dont you think you should get over the whole bernie was a terrible person because he ran against hillary crap you have going on, if bernie said good morning you would call him a liar."

I voted for Bernie, I was a strong supporter of Bernie, after the nomination was gained by Hillary Clinton I continued to agree with Bernie and I supported Hillary Clinton as did Bernie Sanders. Instead of blaming the election loss of other Dems you might spend a moment investigating Interstate Crosscheck which is not going nationwide still under the direction of Kris Kobach. It is complety corrupt and Democrats or independents if that is your claim (which is entirely silly), waste their time and effort attacking other Democrats. The Republicans laugh at us every day because we think we are in a political contest while they understand it is a war. And guess what, they're winning. BTW, Al Franken needs to rescind his agreement to resign and tell Cristen Gillebrand and the others calling for his resignation to grow the f**k up.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-08 09:49 AM | Reply

by the way dont you think you should get over the whole bernie was a terrible person because he ran against hillary crap you have going on, if bernie said good morning you would call him a liar.

#18 | POSTED BY PUNCHYPOSSUM AT 2017-12-08 09:35 AM | FLAG:

Hey bro. You can't have a single conversation. Have you noticed that? None of you Bernie Bros can. So guess how many new voters you're getting: none.

The ironic part is that you can't tell me anything Bernie has proposed or how he plans to do it. I could. I have posted on him regularly.

You're a joke. Your recipe for Democratic dominance is to lose every election ever. Sorry, but that's not pushing forward a progressive agenda for me. Your fantasy is playing out now and I hate it. Trump sucks. GOP sucks. It does not benefit progressives and there is a point where we lose too much.

#20 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-12-08 10:01 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"If we ever get a majority in Congress"

What we need is a majority in Congress that aren't Republicans and aren't Democrats.

Both have had majorities and held the House, Senate, and the White House in my lifetime and neither party did what Americans want or need. They took action for their party, but not for Americans.

That is where we are and where we continue to be.

Both compromise when it benefits the party. They won't compromise with the people.

#21 | Posted by Petrous at 2017-12-08 10:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The use of "less than perfect" is a straw position used to misrepresent the actual reasons a voter might reject a candidate. It is an insultingly obvious and manipulative deception and people who engage in this type of dishonest rhetoric can't be trusted.

#22 | Posted by Sully at 2017-12-08 10:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#21 | Posted by Petrous

They are not there to do what America Wants. They are there to do the right thing for America and the people of America. The problem is the SCOTUS in their "wisdom" said money = speech and that has ensured they will not be there to do the right thing for America but they will be their for there patrons. Until that is fixed we will not have a real say.

#23 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-12-08 10:21 AM | Reply

#22 the author lays out why this argument is being used to dismiss a good candidate.

It's a liberal dog whistle at this point: say it and everyone is embarrassed to vote for anyone Sully and Punch don't say they can vote for. Just not liberal enough.

#24 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-12-08 10:21 AM | Reply

"What we need is a majority in Congress that aren't Republicans and aren't Democrats."

Yeah, we'll just wait for that to happen. It won't happen. Don't base your dreams on things that won't ever happen and that are no more likely to produce good results that what we have now.

"Both have had majorities and held the House, Senate, and the White House in my lifetime and neither party did what Americans want or need. They took action for their party, but not for Americans."

Millions of Americans benefited from Obamacare and Democrats held committee meetings for over a year and incorporated some of the ideas brought to the table by Republicans, sorry but you're just wrong. Both parties aren't the same, one party actually does try to represent the people and does accomplish things that benefit the people while the other party doesn't give a crap about the people as their latest "tax reform" (haha) legislation clearly demonstrates.

#25 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-08 10:24 AM | Reply

"The use of "less than perfect" is a straw position used to misrepresent the actual reasons a voter might reject a candidate."

Baloney, it's an expression for a compromise candidate who can actually win an election as opposed to an uncompromising candidate, who you might prefer, but whom will never win an election. Symbolic candidates losing elections benefit no one. Give me a compromising, pragmatic winner any day.

#26 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-08 10:27 AM | Reply

This is where the blanket - they all suck compared to my party comes in.

They are the same. They both do good and both do bad.
Based on the election, it was two really bad candidates and we had to choose 'not the worse' of the two.

If you can't find any good in the party you oppose, then you are entirely partisan and the problem.

#27 | Posted by Petrous at 2017-12-08 10:32 AM | Reply

Yep, you compromised soooo much on ObamaCare.

Obama tried for months to bring Republicans into the bill and it was publicly drafted for months. Remember the public hearings with Republican leaders in Congress? All it would have taken was 30 House members and 10 Senators to put GOP contributions into the legislation. McConnell and Boehner ordered their people to obstruct everything he did. McConnell even openly boasted about it.

Compare that to the recent tax bill trainwreck. Republicans made no effort to solicit Democratic input and they didn't show the bill to the public. The text came out with hand-written changes hours before the vote.

#29 | Posted by rcade at 2017-12-08 10:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Republicans made no effort to solicit Democratic input and they didn't show the bill to the public."

They also had zero public meetings, and didn't call a single expert witness...which shows in the finished product.

#30 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-12-08 11:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I love it. People who were so politically tone deaf they thought Hillary was a good candidate expect us to believe they know the right strategy to win now. Lol sure.

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2017-12-08 11:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Somebody needs to buy the republicans a dictionary and show them that compromise and capitulate are different words with different meetings

compromise is when one side wants 0 and one side wants 10 and they end up agreeing on 5

republicans think compromise is when they want 0 and they allow the dems to ask for 10 before they write the law for -1

#33 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-12-08 11:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

People who were so politically tone deaf they thought Hillary was a good candidate expect us to believe they know the right strategy to win now.

You are missing the point. Do you think it is a winning strategy for Democrats to relentlessly attack the party's nominee if it isn't the candidate you supported in the primary? That's where some people are these days on the left. They don't even like the DNC today when Bernie's allies are in charge because "establishment = bad" even when they are the establishment.

#34 | Posted by rcade at 2017-12-08 12:05 PM | Reply

but in the end the nation does move in that direction and somehow things get paid for

Somehow? If nothing shows the lala land liberals live in better than this, nothing will. No, PEOPLE who are actually working are paying the bills. There's a price for all this. I don't know why people like you just want things to appear from nowhere. Some one has to pay for all that numbnuts.

#35 | Posted by boaz at 2017-12-08 12:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Some one has to pay for all that numbnuts."

Then why did the Republicans just pass a $2 Trillion giveaway aimed at the wealthiest?

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-12-08 12:24 PM | Reply

The reason this story was entirely anecdotal is because this is not an actual problem. Most progressives did vote for hillary. Most progressives would vote the democrat in a binary runoff.

It is however a convenient way for the Corky's among us to shift the blame and convince themselves the democratic establishment still produces the politicians people want. It may comfort the democrats right now, but it will be their downfall in the long run.

#37 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-12-08 12:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Some one has to pay for all that numbnuts.

#35 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Someone already does. Liberals in liberal states subsidize conservative welfare states full of non-working conservatives.

#38 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-12-08 12:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Do you think it is a winning strategy for Democrats to relentlessly attack the party's nominee if it isn't the candidate you supported in the primary?

Nope. Why do you think I voted for Hillary?

But this being thrown out there by Hillary supporters is a bit rich IMO. It's just comes across as a backhanded blame casting (this is more regarding the commenters here, not necessarily the author of the article).

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2017-12-08 12:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Someone already does. Liberals in liberal states subsidize conservative welfare states full of non-working conservatives. - #38 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-12-08 12:29 PM
Do you ever bother to do any research before you attempt to pass off such --------?
57% of the nation's wealthiest adults associate themselves with the Republican Party.
One-third of the nation's "1%" identify themselves as Republicans, 41% as independents, and 26% as Democrats.

The reality is that Republicans, which make up a minority of people in liberal states, still pay a majority of the taxes.
Top 20% of Earners Pay 84% of Income Tax. And the bottom 20%? They get paid by Uncle Sam

#40 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-12-08 01:03 PM | Reply

- Do you think it is a winning strategy for Democrats to relentlessly attack the party's nominee if it isn't the candidate you supported in the primary?

Which is exactly what they did and still do. How happy do you think it makes rwingers to hear the supposed far left mimic the Best Hits of Rwing Clinton Hate Memes of the past 25 years?

What's really funny though is people who say things like the Dems didn't "produce" a good enough candidate. What? They want the Dems to next time go into a back room somewhere and pick the far left's dream candidate rather than have a primary election?

People who are more concerned about the candidate's personality than the party's policies are perception over reality mongers just like the Republicans.

#41 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-08 01:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#41 You seem to be forgetting the Dems put their finger on the scale for Hillary. It wasn't a fair primary by any account.

#42 | Posted by JOE at 2017-12-08 01:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

57% of the nation's wealthiest adults associate themselves with the Republican Party.

Of course the rich are Republicans. Republicans take care of the rich and screw over the rest of us.

Your stat doesn't mean rich Republicans pay most of the taxes in blue states. You're playing with a lot of unrelated numbers to sell a story, not tell the truth. Working people pay plenty of taxes in this country. Most working people in blue states are Democrats.

The 500 counties that voted for Hillary Clinton created 64% of this country's GDP. Blue America is the engine of the economy.

#43 | Posted by rcade at 2017-12-08 01:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

- It wasn't a fair primary by any account.

Disgruntled employee Brazile walked back her claims after being called on them. And nothing in the snarly campaign emails or anything else the DNC did caused the 4 million vote landslide win.

The only reason Sanders did as even that well was undemocratic caucuses. Otherwise it wouldn't have even been that close.

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-08 01:26 PM | Reply

You seem to be forgetting the Dems put their finger on the scale for Hillary.

This is silly.

Bernie Sanders lost because he didn't get enough votes. Black Democrats and Southern Democrats liked Hillary better.

Even if Donna Brazile ran the DNC in 2016 and it was 100% fair and transparent (no superdelegates, no caucuses, no secret Hillary bailout), Bernie probably would have lost by just as big a margin.

If Bernie had spent five years before 2016 as a Democrat and done more to build a record of helping Democrats win office, he might have won. Hillary put the time in for decades doing that. It matters.

Instead, Bernie parachuted in and joined the party just to run. That didn't endear him to a lot of older Democrats who knew everything Hillary had done for a quarter century to build the party.

#45 | Posted by rcade at 2017-12-08 01:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 4

snarly, lol I meant snarky

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-08 01:27 PM | Reply

"the Dems put their finger on the scale for Hillary"

Members of a club wanted their club member to win, over a carpetbagger?

Stop the presses!

#47 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-12-08 01:28 PM | Reply

Look Rcade, i never said Bernie would have won absent the dirty primary. I just said it was dirty, something Corky didn't seem to be acknowledging. No need to attribute a position to me that i didnt take.

#48 | Posted by JOE at 2017-12-08 01:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Your stat doesn't mean rich Republicans pay most of the taxes in blue states. You're playing with a lot of unrelated numbers to sell a story, not tell the truth. Working people pay plenty of taxes in this country. Most working people in blue states are Democrats.

The 500 counties that voted for Hillary Clinton created 64% of this country's GDP. Blue America is the engine of the economy.

#43 | Posted by rcade at 2017-12-08 01:17 PM

'My' stats (actually the ones I cited and provided said link to back-up) show that Republicans pay a majority of taxes in this country. Your first line even agreed with me. Why do you assign me a position I didn't take (that Republicans paid more in blue states, I didn't state that. Re-read what I wrote), and suffer IndianaJones' blatant misinformation to remain?

#49 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-12-08 01:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Joe: Fair enough. I didn't see where you were going. The DNC definitely made a mess of the 2016 primary. I wish we'd take reforms more seriously, including both an end to superdelegates and an end to caucuses.

#50 | Posted by rcade at 2017-12-08 01:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Agreed. The concept of superdelegates is 100% undemocratic.

Personally i think we should have a national primary, all on the same day. Why should some candidates get "traction" based on what happens in New Hampshire or Iowa?

#51 | Posted by JOE at 2017-12-08 01:54 PM | Reply

I don't know if we need a national one, but it would be nice to have a fixed rotation that gave different parts of the country a chance to be in the first batch. I hate that Iowa and New Hampshire get so much power every damn time.

#52 | Posted by rcade at 2017-12-08 02:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Top 20% of Earners Pay 84% of Income Tax.

On what percentage of earned income?
Do you think it's more or less than 84%?
Of course, if you actually know, that would be great too!

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-08 02:37 PM | Reply

I wish we'd take reforms more seriously, including both an end to superdelegates and an end to caucuses.
#50 | POSTED BY RCADE

Is it too much we ask for that? For the Democratic Party to live up to the meaning of Democratic?

#54 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-12-08 02:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Our country is too big for one size fits all healthcare." - #12 | Posted by pfc. boazo at 2017-12-08 07:33 AM

You mean healthcare like the Veterans Health Administration?

Healthcare like that, pfc. boazo?

#55 | Posted by Hans at 2017-12-08 03:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"...show that Republicans pay a majority of taxes in this country." - #49 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-12-08 01:49 PM

Don't seem to remember where on my federal income tax form it asks for my political party registration.

Come to think of it, I don't remember any tax form that asks for my political party registration.

Where is that, Avigdore?

#56 | Posted by Hans at 2017-12-08 03:21 PM | Reply

"I don't know why people like you just want things to appear from nowhere." - #35 | Posted by pfc. boazo at 2017-12-08 12:22 PM

You mean things like veterans' benefits?

Things like that, pfc. boazo?

#57 | Posted by Hans at 2017-12-08 03:23 PM | Reply

"...show that Republicans pay a majority of taxes in this country."

The 500 counties HRC won represent 64% of our GDP. Try again.

#58 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-12-08 03:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

58

The assertion is silly but you didn't disprove it with that.

#59 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-08 03:33 PM | Reply

#45 that kind of thinking will only hurt the Dems.

Length of time shilling for a party should not be a qualification of the job.

#60 | Posted by jpw at 2017-12-08 03:34 PM | Reply

Okay...I went back and re-read where the juvenile red state/blue state spit wad contest started.

nevermind.

#61 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-08 03:36 PM | Reply

"Personally i think we should have a national primary, all on the same day. Why should some candidates get "traction" based on what happens in New Hampshire or Iowa?"

That would require candidates to mount a national campaign which would be too expensive for most, as candidates build starting in small states voters start choosing who they want to support in the big states. That allows candidates who don't start out with a national following to build one by the time of the actual nomination. I agree with RCADE though, the first states shouldn't always be the same states, it should rotate among other states.

#62 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-08 03:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The assertion is silly but you didn't disprove it with that."

Who do you think lives in heavily Democratic counties?

#63 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-12-08 03:53 PM | Reply

"That would require candidates to mount a national campaign which would be too expensive"

What a shame that campaign finance reform is apparently unconstitutional.

#64 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-12-08 03:58 PM | Reply

"Who do you think lives in heavily Democratic counties?"

democrats?

#65 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-08 04:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Look Rcade, i never said Bernie would have won absent the dirty primary. I just said it was dirty, something Corky didn't seem to be acknowledging."

What was dirty was Bernie jumping in to run as Democrat for no other reason to leverage brand image and the hundreds of millions of dollars that comes with being a Democrat candidate. He could have turned to those who were more ideologically aligned in the socialist party or the CPUSA, but the several million or so they would have been able to provide wasn't going to last.

And I don't know that the tens of millions who contribute money to the Democrat Party would have approved of having that money spent to elect a Democratic Socialist who had only been associated with the party for a few months.

#66 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-12-08 07:49 PM | Reply

"...the Democrat Party..." - #66 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-12-08 07:49 PM

There is no such thing in this country.

#67 | Posted by Hans at 2017-12-08 07:56 PM | Reply

Those last two letters are obviously just too much for Bomber's feeble vocabulary...

#68 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-12-08 08:05 PM | Reply

"There is no such thing in this country."

No. Really?

What did the (D) after Hillary (D-NY) Stand for again?

#69 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-12-08 08:19 PM | Reply

"No. Really?" - #69 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-12-08 08:19 PM

Little 8-year-old boys and girls in grade school know the difference between a noun and an adjective.

Why don't you?

#70 | Posted by Hans at 2017-12-08 08:25 PM | Reply

"No. Really?
What did the (D) after Hillary (D-NY) Stand for again?"

Irrelevant to the question at hand, as you well know. Vying with Sniper and Boaz for the coveted position of Drudge conservative clown?

#71 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-12-08 08:26 PM | Reply

I googled it. My intent was not to be disparaging to the Dems. I will from now on refer to the party as the Democratic Party, if that's what you're taking issue with.

#72 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-12-08 08:44 PM | Reply

"I will from now on refer to the party as the Democratic Party..." - #72 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-12-08 08:44 PM

Thank you.

And, in answer to your question in #69: The (D) stands for Democrat (noun)

As in a Democrat (noun) is a member of the Democratic (adjective) Party (noun).

#73 | Posted by Hans at 2017-12-08 08:54 PM | Reply

73

Are you drinking?

#74 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-08 09:11 PM | Reply

"What was dirty was Bernie jumping in to run as Democrat for no other reason to leverage brand image and the hundreds of millions of dollars that comes with being a Democrat candidate."

It's actually not though.

Because anyone can become a Democrat simply by saying "I'm a Democrat."

(Corky might still flag you Newsworthy though.)

#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-08 09:12 PM | Reply

What did the (D) after Hillary (D-NY) Stand for again?

Demure, delicious, dynamic, desirable, diplomatic, dauntless, dedicated, dominant, destined, determined, devoted, dignified, disarming, discreet, distinguished, destined.

#76 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-12-08 09:29 PM | Reply

Its easy to make the case that Hillary is more progressive than Bush or Trump, even though Trump hasn't invaded anyone YET. Hillary is on the progressive side of women and children issues. But to promote Hillary as a progressive is absurd, she convinced Obama to invade Libya and celebrated Gaddafi's tortured ---- murder. She supported the coup against the freely elected President of Honduras Zelaya and installed a military dictatorship that is attempting to annul their latest election. Many loyal Democrats are more upset about the hacking of her emails, than the disturbingly belligerent attitude and immoral DNC rules she imposed with Clinton foundation money reflected in those emails and her undeniable loyalty to Wall Street. Granted Trump is far worse and if you lived in a swing state Hillary was the only rational choice. But, we are not offered legitimate choices, or even legitimate political discourse, which is astonishingly juvenile and devoid of substantive content across the board. That's not Hillary's fault, but she would never speak out against fundamental flaws in our system of Government, which continue to plague us.

#77 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-12-09 07:57 AM | Reply

What did the (D) after Hillary (D-NY) Stand for again?
Demure, delicious, dynamic, desirable, diplomatic, dauntless, dedicated, dominant, destined, determined, devoted, dignified, disarming, discreet, distinguished, destined.
#76 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-12-08 09:29 PM

Defeated

#78 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-12-09 08:20 AM | Reply

I don't know why people like you just want things to appear from nowhere. Some one has to pay for all that numbnuts.

#35 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2017-12-08 12:22 PM | FLAG: IGNORANT @SS

Once again you hogged all the worlds stupid for the day. Never have I ever implied any such thing as things I believe things "appear from nowhere"... and YES I know things have to be paid for... like some stupid wars started while feigning altruism and moral authority over this or that ... (whatever the baby Geezus told them to do at the time).... and of course, let us not forget... THE WAR THAT THE GOVERNMENT BORROWED MONEY TO PAY FOR would pay for itself... and the republiclowns have been angry with us ever since... because we told them the wars would not pay for themselves... they never have they never will. Constant wars always drag a nation's economy down, lead to civil and economic decline as well as social unrest.

The liberals ultimately win... you numbnuts just make it messy... like the civil war ... which the nation is still recovering from all these years later... because that is what war does... the cost of it tends to linger long after pig brains like you congratulate yourselves for being a collective drag.

I'm just saying that the righty tighties are always running the doom and gloom scenarios ... and all their whining kicking and screaming slows down progress.

#79 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2017-12-09 08:45 AM | Reply

What was dirty was Bernie jumping in to run as Democrat for no other reason to leverage brand image and the hundreds of millions of dollars that comes with being a Democrat candidate.

Perhaps he ran as a Democrat because running as one of the two major parties is the only way to actually win a presidential race in this country? Just a thought. And are you trying to imply he gets to keep that money?

I don't know that the tens of millions who contribute money to the Democrat Party would have approved of having that money spent to elect a Democratic Socialist who had only been associated with the party for a few months

As with Utah, why don't you let the "true stakeholders" decide that? I think their opinion on the matter might be more relevant than that of a corporate apologist douchebag who thinks pit mining is just moving dirt around.

#80 | Posted by JOE at 2017-12-09 09:43 AM | Reply

Now try applying the Bernie apologies to everyone

#81 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-12-09 12:24 PM | Reply

Some one has to pay for all that numbnuts.

#35 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Who is paying for Trump's Trillion dollar Tax Scam? Trillions for war and the wealthy but none for healthcare?

If all Conservatives are like you no wonder Liberals don't compromise anymore. They would be fools to compromise their values with idiots.

#82 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-12-09 12:56 PM | Reply

who thinks pit mining is just moving dirt around.

Are we witnessing the birth of a DR meme along the lines of the infamous car antenna?

#83 | Posted by jpw at 2017-12-09 02:20 PM | Reply

"As with Utah, why don't you let the "true stakeholders" decide that?"

Do you think the DNC was going to give money back to contributors if they were going to support Bernie? And they could have chose to support Bernie, had they felt the Bern, whether he was associated with the Dem party or not.

#84 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-12-09 05:56 PM | Reply

Simply put, liberals should never compromise - they should always adhere to their principles come hell of high water!

#85 | Posted by MSgt at 2017-12-09 09:37 PM | Reply

84 - How is that a response to my post? Don't bother quoting me if you're going to keep bleating the same nonresponsive garbage.

#86 | Posted by JOE at 2017-12-10 10:50 AM | Reply

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