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Tuesday, December 05, 2017

... from people who failed background checks. Federal authorities sought to take back guns from thousands of people the background check system should have blocked from buying weapons because they had criminal records, mental health issues or other problems that would disqualify them. A USA Today review found that the FBI issued more than 4,000 requests last year for agents from the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives to retrieve guns from prohibited buyers. It's the largest number of such retrieval requests in 10 years, according to bureau records -- an especially striking statistic after revelations that a breakdown in the background check system allowed a troubled Air Force veteran to buy a rifle later used to kill 26 worshipers at a Texas church last month.

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In addition to the public safety risks, the ATF agents tasked with retrievingthe banned weapons from unauthorized gun owners across the country are exposed to potentially dangerous confrontations.

"These are people who shouldn't have weapons in the first place, and it just takes one to do something that could have tragic consequences," said David Chipman, a former ATF official who helped oversee the firearm retrieval program. "You don't want ATF to stand for 'after the fact.'"

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Trump izza gonna take yer gunz! C'mon Skeeter, lets get Bubba and load em up soze we be reddy ferto light em up wen they git here.

#1 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2017-12-04 04:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Government in action......

This is a good and bad thing all in the same breathe, hope it goes smoother than I think it will...

The good: People that shouldn't have been able to buy guns in the first place are getting them taken away...

The bad: I don't see that happening without a fight. Plus they were able to get them in the first place.

#2 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-12-04 05:05 PM | Reply

Finally we're getting back to respecting the second amendment and appreciating the important phrase "well=regulated". I pray all 4,000 of those guns are ripped from the traitorous hands of trump supporters.

#3 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-12-04 05:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Alex Jones is going to have a conniption. Then blame this on Obama, progressives and gays.

#4 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2017-12-04 05:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

" mental health issues" - pretty much means those on the left like the Miami night club shooter, Fort Hood Shooter, San Bernadino Shooter, Virginia Tech Shooter, Colorado Theater Shooter, Columbine: Too young to vote; both families were registered Democrats and progressive liberals, etc. Do also note that none of those were NRA members.

#5 | Posted by MSgt at 2017-12-05 12:35 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#5

None of which has anything to do with 2016 retrieval orders for guns bought before failing a background check.

Just like the Second Amendment has nothing to do with such retrievals.

Nor does Trump.

#6 | Posted by et_al at 2017-12-05 01:19 AM | Reply

" mental health issues" - pretty much means those on the left"

You support disarming people for a mental health diagnosis?

Or just like name calling?

Hmm?

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-05 02:44 AM | Reply

#7 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2017-12-05 02:44 AM | FLAG: mental health issues are mentioned in the article; that did come from me. But of course you already knew that as someone as astute as you surly read the article. Of course if the shoe....

#8 | Posted by MSgt at 2017-12-05 12:09 PM | Reply

It's your claim that only liberals have mental health disorders which reveals your mental health disorder, MSgt.

Go turn in your guns, you can't be trusted with them.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-05 12:44 PM | Reply

Finally we're getting back to respecting the second amendment and appreciating the important phrase "well=regulated". I pray all 4,000 of those guns are ripped from the traitorous hands of trump supporters.

#3 | Posted by IndianaJones

"No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." (Thomas Jefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers, 334,[C.J.Boyd, Ed., 1950])

"The right of the people to keep and bear...arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country..." (James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434 [June 8, 1789])

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves...and include all men capable of bearing arms." (Richard Henry Lee, Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer (1788) at 169)

#10 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-05 12:54 PM | Reply

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"No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."

I guess that explains why slaves couldn't be allowed to have them.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-05 01:16 PM | Reply

This is the right thing to do. It will not do much, if anything at all, to curb violence committed by people who did not obtain their weapons legally...but that does not mean it is not a reasonable action.

#12 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2017-12-05 01:35 PM | Reply

It will not do much, if anything at all, to curb violence committed by people who did not obtain their weapons legally...but that does not mean it is not a reasonable action.

#12 | Posted by MUSTANG

If your kid was the one who doesn't get shot because one of these guns is taken, I doubt you'd say it didn't do much.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-12-05 01:59 PM | Reply

This is the right thing to do. It will not do much, if anything at all, to curb violence committed by people who did not obtain their weapons legally...but that does not mean it is not a reasonable action.

#12 | POSTED BY MUSTANG

Mustang, how do you think they got their illegal guns? Likely from people who originally purchased them legally.

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-12-05 01:59 PM | Reply

" mental health issues" - pretty much means those on the left like the Miami night club shooter, Fort Hood Shooter, San Bernadino Shooter, Virginia Tech Shooter, Colorado Theater Shooter, Columbine: Too young to vote; both families were registered Democrats and progressive liberals, etc. Do also note that none of those were NRA members.

#5 | Posted by MSgt

Right. NRA members just sold them their guns and profited from mass murder.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-12-05 02:01 PM | Reply

How many of the guns used in the many mass shootings over the past few years were illegally obtained? How many of the shooters would have been considered responsible gun owners by these NRA nut jobs right up until they decided not to be?

#16 | Posted by qcp at 2017-12-05 02:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" mental health issues" - pretty much means those on the left like the Miami night club shooter, Fort Hood Shooter, San Bernadino Shooter, Virginia Tech Shooter, Colorado Theater Shooter, Columbine: Too young to vote; both families were registered Democrats and progressive liberals, etc. Do also note that none of those were NRA members.

#5 | POSTED BY MSGT AT 2017-12-05 12:35 AM | REPLY

Guess what MSGT, You've been punked

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addictinginfo.com

You shouldn't believe every viral email you get.

#17 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-12-05 03:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You shouldn't believe every viral email you get.

#17 | Posted by hatter5183

Doesn't matter. If he doesn't want it to be true, he'll say its fake news. If he wants it to be true, he doesn't care where it came from, even if it's the KGB.

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-12-05 04:03 PM | Reply

Guess what MSGT, You've been punked...

You can fool some of the people all of the time. They are called Conservatives.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-12-05 04:12 PM | Reply

Mrs.Sargent needs a Nelson, "HA-HA!!!! Also,stop believing every one of you kooky reichwing friends emails.

#20 | Posted by zelkova at 2017-12-05 06:19 PM | Reply

#14 Well then by all means, let's make burglary illegal.

#21 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2017-12-05 07:27 PM | Reply

Been telling the few right wing gun toting friends for over a decade it's not the Democrats/liberals (or whatever they are calling themselves) that are going to take your guns, it's your beloved Republican Party that will attempt to take your guns.

So it turns out the republicans/Teajadist/alt-right Nazi's that are "the gun grabbers".... go figure!

#22 | Posted by Aborted_monson at 2017-12-05 07:28 PM | Reply

While I do agree this is the right thing to do, what concerns me more is the continued punishment of our legal system after some people have done their time. Once you have paid a debt to society, you shouldn't be paying for the rest of your life.

Our justice system needs to be looked at when it comes to after punishment has been served.

#23 | Posted by boaz at 2017-12-06 08:27 AM | Reply

#23 Can we take it that you are in favor of restoring voting rights to felons then?

#24 | Posted by leadbelly at 2017-12-06 10:00 AM | Reply

#23 Can we take it that you are in favor of restoring voting rights to felons then?

#24 | POSTED BY LEADBELLY AT 2017-12-06 10:00 AM | REPLY

If a person needs to be punished they should be in prison. People who are not in prison should not have any limitations. Prison should be the only place any American has less rights than any other.

If a person has completed their prescribed punishment then there should be no further repercussions.

#25 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-12-06 10:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#25 I understand that principle. My point is that Boaz is being a hypocrite as the party he consistently supports continues to work against restoring voting rights to felons.

#26 | Posted by leadbelly at 2017-12-06 10:41 AM | Reply

#26 ..and the other party wants felons to vote while incarcerated. Each has staked out a ridiculous position and refuses to budge.

#27 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2017-12-06 03:11 PM | Reply

"My point is that Boaz is being a hypocrite as the party he consistently supports continues to work against restoring voting rights to felons."

That's because the felons are disproportionately black, not to mention poor, meaning they will lean Democrat.

He probably thinks it's an injustice, but Democrats winning elections is even worse.

He just didn't quite come out and say all that.

What he did is called: paying lip service.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-06 03:24 PM | Reply

wow. You cant even state an opinion, even one that might agree with another ideology other than your own, without getting attacked.

You people are the reason this country is falling apart.

I'm not going to become a democrat just because there are some in my party who don't want felons to have voting rights.

#29 | Posted by boaz at 2017-12-07 08:53 AM | Reply

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