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Sunday, December 03, 2017

Speaking with voters in the Midwest who played a major hand in electing President Donald Trump, the Washington Post found supporters of the president who feel betrayed by a tax plan that includes massive tax cuts for the rich and pennies -- at best -- for them Patrick Colley, a Teamster from Michigan stated that, in Trump he thought he had a president who understood the average worker. Colley doubted corporations would invest their tax savings from the GOP Congressional windfall in their businesses by hiring more workers, saying they "are not in a caring mode." As for the rich who will see their tax burden go down and don't have to worry about health care bills, Colley expressed frustration with the bill that will likely be signed by Trump. "It's depressing, you know? It's depressing. I pay like 30 percent [in taxes], and I'm a regular guy. It's not fair. And a millionaire pays like 12 percent," he said. "It's not fair. It's not fair at all."

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Don't you libs get tired of publishing fake news?

#1 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-03 03:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Colley expressed frustration with the bill that will likely be signed by Trump. "It's depressing, you know? It's depressing. I pay like 30 percent [in taxes], and I'm a regular guy. It's not fair. And a millionaire pays like 12 percent," he said. "It's not fair. It's not fair at all.

Suck it up, snowflake.

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2017-12-03 04:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

However, that wasn't the complete truth -- and the story even admitted as such later. It said:

Republicans have already been pointing out that a substantial number of millionaires aren't winners in this tax plan: Nearly 20 percent would see their taxes go up in 2019, according to the JCT and almost a third of millionaires would pay more by 2023. Democrats have focused on how the vast majority of the poor -- those earning less than $20,000 -- aren't any better off. Most of those people don't pay any federal income taxes, but they aren't getting any more of a refund.

#3 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-03 04:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Per the article ...

According to one Republican voter, who admits he actually cast a write-in vote for Sen Ted Cruz (R-TX) in the 2016 election, he sees the rich profiting while any gains he may receive will be wiped out by deductions that Republicans are stripping out of the tax code.

"Why are you going to lower their taxes?" auto industry employee Ron Stephens, 49, explained.

"The level of lifestyle that they have versus everyone else -- why do they need that?

It's not that big of an impact for them, but for someone making $30,000 a year?

That would have a huge impact on them."


Dear Ron Stephens,

As George Carlin once said, "it's a Big Club, and you're not in it. You and I are not in the Big Club."

Sincerely,

MSgt PinchALoaf, USAF Retired
Bernie Sanders 2016, Precinct Captain

#4 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2017-12-03 04:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Don't you libs get tired of publishing fake news?

#1 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Don't you ever get tired of finding reality diametrically opposed to your own "thoughts"?

Try learning instead of writing everything off you disagree with.

Also, what exactly is fake about it? Or do you think the average person is going to be happy they got hosed by DOTUS Trump?

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2017-12-03 04:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

#5

The Republicans are strange people. An unpopular tax bill that's going to hurt millions of registered voters and they want gratitude, dare I say loved, for it.

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2017-12-03 04:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Also, what exactly is fake about it? Or do you think the average person is going to be happy they got hosed by DOTUS Trump?
#5 | POSTED BY JPW

You really have to ask? It's the common response for anything going against Trump. SNIPPY accuses Dems of being overly aggressive towards Trump and yet here he is, again, being overly protective of Trump.

#7 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2017-12-03 05:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Snippy = stupid alt-right snowflake.

Get a job Snippy and pay your taxes!

#8 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-12-03 05:35 PM | Reply

I wonder if Trump tax plan was filtered through the left-wing media to look awful.

#9 | Posted by Ray at 2017-12-03 05:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

I was a bit under whelmed by the Tax Scam that's for sure.

But, after seeing that snippy is all for it has convinced me that we are definitely screwed.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-12-03 05:57 PM | Reply

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All I can say is I hope all of you idiot -------- who voted for that POS suffer the pains of Karmic payback. One of the monumental absurdities of history; the Droolers suckered into putting the Orange Maggot into office.

#11 | Posted by paltroon1 at 2017-12-03 09:25 PM | Reply

"I wonder if Trump tax plan was filtered through the the left wing media to look awful. "

No, just filtered through math. That made it look plenty awful.

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-12-03 09:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

"I wonder if Trump tax plan was filtered through the left-wing media to look awful."

Of course you do.

You also wonder what paste tastes like, so you eat it.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-03 09:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 6

The one silver lining that this tax plan has is that it will screw trump voters.

Oh and I hope they all get ass cancer after cancelling their mandated insurance and then not be able to write off the expenses on their taxes.

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-12-03 10:19 PM | Reply

...their NO LONGER mandated....

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-12-03 10:20 PM | Reply

Ass cancer - that's good, right?
- Trump voters

#16 | Posted by cbob at 2017-12-03 10:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"... supporters of the president who feel betrayed by a tax plan that includes massive tax cuts for the rich and pennies -- at best -- for them."

Wow... it's really too bad that no one has been telling Trump voters that they have misplaced their trust in Trump... oh, wait.

Trump was always going to do the same thing Republican Presidents have done at least since Reagan.

Corporations get a huge permanent tax cut and Trump voters get diddly. But hey, that's the price of being more concerned about those tax cuts... in the vain hope that some of it will eventually Tinkle Down on them, which of course, it never does.

Rwing voters are like Charlie Brown, and GOP Lucy is always teeing up the ball for them... and then pulling it away.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-03 10:44 PM | Reply

#17

Right wing voters are shmoos. They want to be eaten.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2017-12-04 07:31 AM | Reply

I wonder if Trump tax plan was filtered through the left-wing media to look awful.

#9 | POSTED BY RAY

And just when I thought you couldn't post anything dumber, you go and post this gem.

Genius. You've made stupidity an art form.

#19 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-12-04 09:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Snippy = stupid alt-right snowflake. - #8 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-12-03 05:35 PM

When people of lower IQ have their views challenged in ways they can't refute, they react by getting violent, abusive, and engage in childish name calling - #315 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-10-30 07:09 PM

#20 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-12-04 10:08 AM | Reply

Snippy = stupid alt-right snowflake. - #8 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-12-03 05:35 PM
When people of lower IQ have their views challenged in ways they can't refute, they react by getting violent, abusive, and engage in childish name calling - #315 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-10-30 07:09 PM

#20 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

In Avigore's world, if you call a moron a moron, he MUST be a genius.

#21 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-12-04 11:31 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"Patrick Colley, a Teamster from Michigan stated that, in Trump he thought he had a president who understood the average worker."

Mr. Colley are you now going to try and pretend we didn't warn you?

#22 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-04 11:35 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Rwing voters are like Charlie Brown, and GOP Lucy is always teeing up the ball for them... and then pulling it away."

Excellent analogy.

#23 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-04 11:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Colley expressed frustration with the bill that will likely be signed by Trump. "It's depressing, you know? It's depressing. I pay like 30 percent [in taxes], and I'm a regular guy. It's not fair. And a millionaire pays like 12 percent," he said. "It's not fair. It's not fair at all."

Idiot. We told you this would happen for over a year and you called it Fake News.

I don't feel bad for this idiot.

#24 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-12-04 04:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"do you think the average person is going to be happy they got hosed by DOTUS Trump"

sadly yes.

life will suck, and they'll find a way in their small minds, to blame hillary or obama.

#25 | Posted by klifferd at 2017-12-04 06:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

a Teamster from Michigan stated that, in Trump he thought he had a president who understood the average worker.

Dotard does understand you. He understands the perfect line of ---- to sell you.

#26 | Posted by 726 at 2017-12-04 08:11 PM | Reply

I wonder if Trump tax plan was filtered through the left-wing media to look awful.

#9 | Posted by Ray at 2017-12-03 05:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Go read it and we'll compare notes.

#27 | Posted by 726 at 2017-12-04 08:13 PM | Reply

These same working class blue collar Republicans would vote for Trump again because he is not a woman and he is not black. Financial well being be damned.

#28 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-12-04 09:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#5 "DOTUS."
perfect.

#29 | Posted by ichiro at 2017-12-05 03:49 AM | Reply

Insulting them for finally thinking critically probably isn't the best way to go as far as not reelecting this cretin goes....

Marginalizing these people is part of how we got here

#30 | Posted by Sully at 2017-12-05 10:15 AM | Reply

Don't you libs get tired of publishing fake news?

#1 | Posted by Sniper

Good point. This must be fake. Trump supporters are far to stupid to realize trump is screwing them.

#31 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-12-05 11:44 AM | Reply

Marginalizing these people is part of how we got here

#30 | Posted by Sully

No, 30 years of republican media creating an alternate reality of lies, combined with republicans ruining our public education system is how we got here.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-12-05 11:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#32 hyper partisan drivel

#33 | Posted by Sully at 2017-12-05 12:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No, actually it's pretty clear:
www.alternet.org

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-12-05 12:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

From #34 "Out of 11 false claims studied in the survey, PIPA found that "almost daily" Fox News viewers were "significantly more likely than those who never watched it" to believe 9 of them, including the misperceptions that "most scientists do not agree that climate change is occurring" (they do), that "it is not clear that President Obama was born in the United States" (he was), that "most economists estimate the stimulus caused job losses" (it either saved or created several million), that "most economists have estimated the healthcare law will worsen the deficit" (they have not), and so on."

^
Plenty of our "Never Trump" and "Not a Fox News watcher" Republicans and "Libertarians" believe those lies too.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-05 12:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump is not smart and obviously understood the situation better than the geniuses who are feeding you rubes these talking points and fauxcuses.

I didn't get it at the time either. But I can't imagine being so dense as to not understand what happened given hindsight.

If you show nothing but contempt for people, they aren't going to support you. Should be common sense really.

But carry on with the -----------...

#36 | Posted by Sully at 2017-12-05 12:48 PM | Reply

"If you show nothing but contempt for people, they aren't going to support you."

Name any right-wingers whose primary feeling for liberals isn't "contempt" -- or far worse.

Now take a step back. Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households.

That's an economy that has contempt for the poor. And it's bi-partisan.

Trump appealed to these poor white losers desire for revenge.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-05 12:58 PM | Reply

We aren't talking about hardcore right wingers. Many of these people voted for Obama. Do you think right wingers are the ones questioning Trumps tax plan now? These are people who are willing to change their minds given a reason to do so.

#38 | Posted by Sully at 2017-12-05 01:16 PM | Reply

"We aren't talking about hardcore right wingers."

Were not? Could you name a prominent, non-hardcore right winger? Because I have no idea who you're referring to.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-05 01:20 PM | Reply

#32 hyper partisan drivel

#33 | Posted by Sully

Meaningless rebuttal.

#40 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-12-05 01:23 PM | Reply

#39 we are talking about Trump voters who have voiced some regret. Your reading comprehension is horrible

#41 | Posted by Sully at 2017-12-05 01:30 PM | Reply

#40 your cut and paste blather doesn't warrant a thoughtful response

#42 | Posted by Sully at 2017-12-05 01:33 PM | Reply

"#39 we are talking about Trump voters who have voiced some regret."

Is their ability to experience regret the defining characteristic that makes them not be "hardcore" then?

Maybe your the wrong person to ask since you're still emotionally attached to your pathetic little fauxtest vote for Jill Stein.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-05 01:36 PM | Reply

"Is their ability to experience regret the defining characteristic that makes them not be "hardcore" then?"
#43 |

I think it's a reasonable litmus test.

The hardcore would pose for a selfie with DT, two thumbs up, just before he pulls the oxygen mask off their wheezing face...

#44 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2017-12-05 01:54 PM | Reply

#40 your cut and paste blather doesn't warrant a thoughtful response

#42 | Posted by Sully

As if you could write one.

#45 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-12-05 01:56 PM | Reply

Of course I can, Speaks. That is your problem with me. I think instead of being told what to think by a party.

#46 | Posted by Sully at 2017-12-05 02:06 PM | Reply

#43 - the "hardcore" label was sourced from Uranus in the first place.

#47 | Posted by Sully at 2017-12-05 02:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Every time I hit myself in the head with a hammer, it hurts. Here, let me try again. OUCH! Maybe this time.. OUCH! I'll try again later, I have a headache right now. I don't understand why.....

---the right----

#48 | Posted by kudzu at 2017-12-05 02:17 PM | Reply

Of course I can, Speaks. That is your problem with me. I think instead of being told what to think by a party.

#46 | Posted by Sully

And which party tells me what to think? The one i criticized mercilessly during the democratic primary for taking bribes from bankers, or the one in criticize mercilessly for welcoming russian puppets, klansmen, and child molesters?

#49 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-12-05 02:18 PM | Reply

#49 Hillary is flawed but she's the only acceptable choice was the narrative she planned for all along.

If someone expresses an unapproved opinion you can't stand it

#50 | Posted by Sully at 2017-12-05 02:38 PM | Reply

#49 Hillary is flawed but she's the only acceptable choice was the narrative she planned for all along.

If someone expresses an unapproved opinion you can't stand it

#50 | Posted by Sully

That's not just a narrative, for anyone with a brain that was the only possible conclusion, once the primaries were over.

You can have whatever moronic opinions you want. But if you say something stupid like trump and hillary were equally bad choices, I'm going to say that's stupid.

But you'll find plenty of "approval" for your opinion, just not from anyone with a very high IQ.

#51 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-12-05 02:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"#49 Hillary is flawed but she's the only acceptable choice was the narrative she planned for all along."

That was Trump's narrative too.

What was Jill Stein's? Throw your vote away on me to prove how angry you are, and also to underscore how there's nothing you can do about it!

And you took the bait, hard, and still don't regret it.

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-05 03:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is "the base" starting to figure out they got sold a lemon?

#53 | Posted by morris at 2017-12-05 03:22 PM | Reply

"#49 Hillary is flawed but she's the only acceptable choice was the narrative she planned for all along."

Promoting yourself as marginally better than the devil wasn't quite as inspiring as she had hoped.

#54 | Posted by morris at 2017-12-05 03:25 PM | Reply

"I have a headache right now. I don't understand why....."

Too much winning?

#55 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-12-05 04:06 PM | Reply

#51 - equally bad is irrelevant. Neither was acceptable. I'm not willing to join your race to the bottom.

You sound like Trump with the IQ stuff and are every bit as unconvincing.

#56 | Posted by Sully at 2017-12-05 04:41 PM | Reply

#52- you're full of it. Trump talked about trade and jobs. He was lying the whole time. But at least he was able to figure out which lies to tell. If Hillary was offering the Rust Belt anything she did a horrible job of communicating it. Trump did a better job of selling policies (lies)?whether you can bring yourself to admit it or not.

Your categorization of Stein is as vapid and dishonest as your typical drivel and isn't worthy if a response other than to point out that you are lying again.

#57 | Posted by Sully at 2017-12-05 04:47 PM | Reply

"Your categorization of Stein is as vapid and dishonest as your typical drivel"

Stein had no way to win.
Somehow you think that's not true.
How can you see through Trump's lies but not your own???

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-05 04:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Claiming that she ran on not being as bad ax the others is not true.

I don't know where you are trying to put the goalposts now but we can still read the previous post so you are wasting your time

#59 | Posted by Sully at 2017-12-05 05:02 PM | Reply

"Claiming that she ran on not being as bad ax the others is not true."

And yet... that's precisely why you voted for Stein!

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-05 05:05 PM | Reply

#51 - equally bad is irrelevant. Neither was acceptable. I'm not willing to join your race to the bottom.

You sound like Trump with the IQ stuff and are every bit as unconvincing.

#56 | Posted by Sully

If you can't tell that hillary would be better for all the priorities you support, I have to question your IQ, or wonder who is preventing you from the intake of factual information.

You're already in a race to the bottom. You could vote to hit the gas or the brakes. And not voting for either is the same as voting to hit the gas.

#61 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-12-05 05:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

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