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Sunday, December 03, 2017

President Trump tweeted Saturday that he fired former national security adviser Michael Flynn because Flynn lied to the FBI, as well as to Vice President Mike Pence. "I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI," the president wrote. This is a brand new version of events. Until now, the White House has claimed that Trump fired Flynn just because he lied to Pence. According to Trump's own tweet, he would have known Flynn had lied to the FBI at the time Trump asked former FBI Director James Comey to drop the investigation into Flynn, assuring him Flynn had done nothing wrong.




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On Twitter, Matthew Miller, a former Department of Justice official, echoes that Trump's new version of events indicates an effort to obstruct Comey's investigation: "Oh my god, he just admitted to obstruction of justice. If Trump knew Flynn lied to the FBI when he asked Comey to let it go, then there is your case."


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This sort of thing enrages Trump and fills him with fear, until he reminds himself what a genius he is.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2017-12-02 04:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So.... by his own admission, Trump also lied to the FBI.

But hey, he' lied to everyone else, why not to the FBI.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-02 06:37 PM | Reply

Now the ------------------- is blaming his attorney for his admission of guilt.


#3 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2017-12-02 11:14 PM | Reply

I'll say it again: once Trump signs the tax bill, he's toast.

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-12-02 11:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


O, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive! - Walter Scott

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-02 11:22 PM | Reply

"the ------------------- is blaming his attorney"

Well let's put the attorney under oath, and find out what he knew, and when he knew it.

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-12-02 11:27 PM | Reply

Trump's lawyer: I wrote the president's 'sloppy' tweet about Flynn's dismissal

The unusual clarification by Dowd –- revealing that someone other than Trump himself had authored a tweet from his official account -- could also be an attempt to tamp down on potential legal exposure from the message.


The lawyer did it in the White House with the twitter machine.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-03 02:41 AM | Reply

Here's the question:

How many people are allowed to pretend to be the president on Twitter?

#8 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-12-03 08:27 AM | Reply

The NY Daily News pays tribute to the Dotard-In-Chief after his obstruction of justice confession.

#9 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2017-12-03 09:07 AM | Reply

It would be fitting if Trump tweeted himself into a criminal conviction and removal from office.

#10 | Posted by rcade at 2017-12-03 11:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 7



@#3 ... blaming his attorney ...

If it is true that "the attorney did it" then Pres Trump must have one of the most stupid attorneys on the planet.

A competent attorney does not accidentally, or otherwise, make his client appear complicit in an obstruction of justice investigation.

"the attorney did it" sounds just a bit too convenient at the moment.

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-12-03 12:29 PM | Reply

And let's suspend our intelligence for a minute and consider the claim John Dowd himself did dictate the tweet. Why in the holy hell hasn't Trump fired him for being more incompetent than any attorney short of Trump's other counsel who openly discussed defense tactics in earshot of a Washington Post reporter sitting next to him in a restaurant?

I can't believe any Trump supporter hasn't noticed that Trump has the stupidest, most undisciplined lawyers on the planet. I guess Trump is trying to keep another one of his constituents happy by providing them a slew of new customers. That industry being the private prison racket, naturally.

#12 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-12-03 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I've read the following article a couple of times, and I'm still not sure I understand the timeline of what hppened...

Trump lawyer's backstory for a stunning tweet


John Dowd, President Trump's personal lawyer, tells me [Mike Allen of Axios, author of the article] that a Trump tweet that caused an eruption yesterday was "my mistake," made in a tweet he had drafted and passed to White House social media director Dan Scavino.

"I'm out of the tweeting business," Dowd said with a chuckle. "I did not mean to break news."

Did President Trump admit obstruction of justice? That was the instant question online after he tweeted:

"I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!"
Dowd: "The tweet did not admit obstruction. That is an ignorant and arrogant assertion."

Why it matters: If Trump knew, before he fired Flynn, that the aide had lied to the FBI, that would further taint Trump's months-later firing of FBI Director James Comey. It would also make his appeals to Comey to go easy on Flynn all the more problematic.

Here's what Dowd says happened ...

It still reads to be too convenient to me.

#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-12-03 12:42 PM | Reply

Dowd: "The tweet did not admit obstruction. That is an ignorant and arrogant assertion."

Dude is either straight up clueless or one of the most oblivious attorneys in history. This is why Trump is tweeting that Comey was lying in his congressional testimony when he stated that the day after Flynn was fired that Trump emptied the room and spoke to Comey about letting the Flynn investigation go.

The tweet itself in conjunction with Comey's sworn testimony is an admission of obstruction because it shows that when Trump was asking Comey to let Flynn be he already knew that Flynn had committed the crime of lying to the FBI. Hence, the tweet if given by Trump himself, IS an admission of obstruction of justice. It doesn't get much clearer than this.

#14 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-12-03 12:53 PM | Reply

@#14 ... Dude is either straight up clueless or one of the most oblivious attorneys in history. ...

Can't he be both?

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-12-03 01:00 PM | Reply

Supposedly, one of Trump's personal attorneys, John Dowd, is now getting the credit for composing Trump's tweet in which he stated that he fired Flynn for lying to Pence "and the FBI." This tweet, of course, is an admission by Trump that later, when he attempted to get Comey to drop the investigation into Flynn, Trump knew Flynn had lied to the FBI -- making out a clear case of obstruction of justice by Trump.

So, if Dowd is credited with writing it (he himself hasn't yet said that he did, has he?), then Trump's tweet doesn't incriminate Trump, is what the ploy apparently is. But then you have to believe that Dowd authored an incredibly stupid tweet. Is Dowd really that blitheringly stupid of a lawyer? As a lawyer myself, I doubt it. A tweet that incredibly dumb could have been written only by the Tweeter in Chief.

(Is "tweeter" what a person who tweets is termed? I really don't know, I don't tweet. Maybe a person who tweets should be called a twit?)

#16 | Posted by nimbleswitch at 2017-12-03 01:41 PM | Reply

Disbar either way.

#17 | Posted by techres at 2017-12-03 01:59 PM | Reply

...then he lied again, blaming his attorney for writing the tweet.
What a pathetic piece of $hizz. Own up to your lies and obstruction, Donald!

#18 | Posted by e1g1 at 2017-12-03 02:25 PM | Reply


#19 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-12-03 06:12 PM | Reply

I mean if there is one thing we know about lawyers it is that they usually don't want their clients to say ANYTHING. What was the need for such a tweet. Makes me believe (I could be wrong of course) that neither Dowd nor any other lawyer authored this.

#20 | Posted by rosemountbomber at 2017-12-03 06:19 PM | Reply


Dowd confessed. Sounds like he just took one for the team to get his stupid client off the hook.

#21 | Posted by Twinpac at 2017-12-03 07:12 PM | Reply

Dowd confessed. Sounds like he just took one for the team to get his stupid client off the hook.

#21 | POSTED BY TWINPAC AT 2017-12-03 07:12 PM

If I was Mueller I would be calling Dowd and taking the position that he waived the attorney client privilege with that admission. That would shake things up a lot.

#22 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-12-03 07:51 PM | Reply

So Dowd is lying and Trump did write that and they are both attempting to obstruct justice or he's telling the truth and admitting that Trump knew Flynn lied and fired Comey to protect him. Either way, this is not good for Trump.

#23 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2017-12-03 08:05 PM | Reply

This seems like it would be fairly easy to determine.

What device did the tweet originate from (I'm assuming Twitter would have that info?) and where were Trump and Dowd at the time the Tweet was posted.

If Dowd is unable to confirm he was with Trump at the time the Tweet posted then wouldn't that mean Trump is trying to obstruct justice again by lying about obstructing justice?

#24 | Posted by jpw at 2017-12-03 08:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


Dowd didn't say he tweeted it. He said he wrote it. The Dotard did the tweet.

#25 | Posted by Twinpac at 2017-12-03 09:19 PM | Reply


Interesting. Fire them both.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2017-12-03 09:39 PM | Reply


It's doubtful Dowd wrote the statement. Lawyers aren't usually that dumb. It's more likely Trump tweeted himself into jeopardy and Dowd took the fall to save his stupid client.

Now Dowd is on Mueller's radar and may be called in for a "chat" with the Special Prosecutor. Question is, can Dowd do that and still continue as Trump's attorney. It's a bit of a conundrum.

#27 | Posted by Twinpac at 2017-12-03 10:10 PM | Reply

I'm not convinced of the premise of this article. Trump is basically a moron. He just says whatever stupid ---- comes to his feeble, corrupt brain that he thinks scores a win for him.

#28 | Posted by cbob at 2017-12-03 10:32 PM | Reply


As ROC noted, because Dowd already publicly admitted that he authored the text in question, there shouldn't be any privilege attached to direct questions about what Dowd himself did. And it would seem that Dowd is caught in quite a no-win situation because he very well might have waved privilege with Trump on this subject because of his public pronouncements and he might have to divulge the details of the decision for him to pen the tweet and how that decision was arrived at by all those involved in the process.

#29 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-12-03 10:36 PM | Reply

Does anyone honestly think Trump can remember specifically why he fired Comey? He admitted to Lester Holt he fired Comey over the Russia investigation. He now admits to firing Flynn for lying to the FBI.

Why bother even debating this ----.

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-12-03 10:56 PM | Reply

Some stuff to keep in the back of your mind, from last February when Flynn resigned.


The White House had examined a transcript of a wiretapped conversation that Mr. Flynn had with Mr. Kislyak in December, according to administration officials. Mr. Flynn originally told Mr. Pence and others that the call was limited to small talk and holiday pleasantries.
But the conversation, according to officials who saw the transcript of the wiretap, also included a discussion about sanctions imposed on Russia after intelligence agencies determined that President Vladimir V. Putin's government tried to interfere with the 2016 election on Mr. Trump's behalf. Still, current and former administration officials familiar with the call said the transcript was ambiguous enough that Mr. Trump could have justified either firing or retaining Mr. Flynn.

We now know this is a lie. The transition team was involved throughout the entire discussion that Flynn had with Russia. They didn't need to review a transcript.

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-12-03 11:03 PM | Reply

Again, everyone should understand that the stated reason for Flynn's resignation is a lie. He supposedly did not brief the WH and Pence about the discussions with Kislyak, when now he admits he did. That is where this string will lead to.

#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-12-03 11:15 PM | Reply

I bet one of the 1st things you learn in law school is that you should frequently compose tweets from your clients' Twitter account confessing to crimes.

I mean, what kind of dip *** attorney wouldn't do that??

#33 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-12-04 04:01 AM | Reply


"That is where this string will lead to."

Right now the next knot on the string is Kushner. Even a pardon won't exempt him from testifying. I'm curious to see how long Trump will let this go on before he has to decide. Will he or will he not let his son-in-law go down for the count?

#34 | Posted by Twinpac at 2017-12-04 04:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


"I mean, what kind of dip *** attorney wouldn't do that??"

None that I know of. However, Dowd might have agreed to step in and take the heat to get his stupid client off the hook.

Now that Dowd has done that, he can't claim attorney-client privilege if Mueller calls him in for an interview. At least not on this subject.

#35 | Posted by Twinpac at 2017-12-04 04:29 AM | Reply

"Will he or will he not let his son-in-law go down for the count?"

If it comes down to Jared or him, I think we all know the answer.

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-12-04 08:31 AM | Reply

"Dowd might have agreed to step in and take the heat to get his stupid client off the hook"

For the legal eagles on this blog: Dowd clearly lied. Did he just put himself in legal jeopardy?

#37 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-12-04 08:36 AM | Reply

Now the White House is saying Trump knew.

#38 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-12-04 09:50 AM | Reply

Simple reminder:

Mueller took down Enron, the Gambino crime family and the Gotti crime family.

Compared to these cases, this case he can do blindfolded.

#39 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-12-04 11:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


" Dowd clearly lied. Did he just put himself in legal jeopardy?"

Only if he continues to lie ~ to the federal prosecutor. But I have a feeling they'll come to one of those lawyer-to-lawyer understandings. I don't look for a mea culpa from Dowd. Lawyers lie to the public all the time. He can claim it was only a draft of a suggestion that Trump took out of context.

#40 | Posted by Twinpac at 2017-12-04 12:18 PM | Reply

I can't believe people like Dowd are willing to fall on their swords for Trump.

Do they think Trump would sacrifice for them? Lol

#41 | Posted by Sully at 2017-12-04 12:52 PM | Reply

It would be fitting if Trump tweeted himself into a criminal conviction and removal from office.


I'd call that poetic justice.

#42 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-12-04 03:18 PM | Reply

You libs never stop dreaming that you can impeach Trump. Dream on suckers.

#43 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-04 04:12 PM | Reply


Ironically sucking is the low, low bar set for impeachment. Or getting sucked, rather.

#44 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-12-04 05:01 PM | Reply

You all sound like Captain Queeg with proof that Trump stole the strawberries.

#45 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-12-05 12:05 AM | Reply


Official Handler of Trump's berries.

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-05 12:08 AM | Reply

Corky is still looking for that second key.

#47 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-12-05 12:56 AM | Reply

Capitalism, hiding behind "globalism," pretends to be a good thing when it is destroying the US economy. Production moves where labor is cheapest, thus depriving First World labor of good wages and work opportunities. Short-term profits and executive and board bonuses and stock options are maximized at the cost of the destruction of the domestic consumer market.

The financial sector no longer supplies capital for production. What the financial sector does is to turn discretionary consumer income into interest and fee payments to banks. Aggregate demand can only grow through debt expansion, and the consumers reach a point where they cannot expand their debt. What we are witnessing in the US and indeed throughout the western world is the total failure of capitalism. Capitalism is a looting machine.

#48 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-12-05 07:01 AM | Reply

I meant to put #48 in the "dismayed voters" blog

#49 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-12-05 07:25 AM | Reply

Dowd clearly lied. Did he just put himself in legal jeopardy?

Had he lied as part of an official proceeding, (i.e. misrepresented something to a judge or lied under oath) he would be in deep ----. Unfortunately i don't think there's anything special about being a lawyer that prevents you from lying to the media.

Now i've seen speculation that because the tweet contained evidence relating to obstruction, that Dowd can now be put under oath by Mueller and asked who wrote the tweet. If he then admits to not having written the tweet, then his statement that he did write it would also be obstruction. I would like to see this theory tested.

At the end of the day, there is very little reason to believe that Dowd wrote the tweet. Of all the tweets Trump has written, the one that happens to place him in legal jeopardy just happens to be the one his lawyer wrote? It doesn't make sense; no criminal defense attorney wouls be this stupid. The tweet is obviously in Trump's voice and if it ever matters i'm sure it can be figured out.

#50 | Posted by JOE at 2017-12-05 09:18 AM | Reply

In other related news, Paul Manafort seems determined to go directly to jail without passing go. Violating the terms of your bail agreement seems like a bad idea but then none of them are all that bright.


#51 | Posted by Reagan58 at 2017-12-05 09:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

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