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Saturday, December 02, 2017

In 2019, if everything goes according to plan, the much-delayed James Webb Space Telescope will finally launch into orbit. Once assembled, it will use an array of 18 hexagonal mirrors to collect and focus the light from distant galaxies. This segmented-mirror design was developed in the 1980s, and it has been so successful that it will feature in almost all the large telescopes to be built in the near future. But as always, nature got there first. For millions of years, scallops have been gazing at the world using dozens of eyes, each of which has a segmented mirror that's uncannily similar to those in our grandest telescopes. And scientists have just gotten a good look at one for the first time.

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Yes, those scallops -- the pan-seared pucks of white flesh that grace our dinner plates. Those pucks are just the muscles that the animals use to close their beautiful shells. Look at a full, living scallop, and you'll see a very different animal. And that animal will be looking right back at you, using dozens of eyes that line the fleshy mantle on the inner edges of its shell. Some species have up to 200 eyes. Others have electric-blue ones.

Inside the eyes, the weirdness deepens. When light enters a human eye, it passes through a lens, which focuses it onto the retina -- a layer of light-sensitive cells. When light enters a scallop eye, it passes through a lenslike structure, which ... doesn't seem to do anything. It then passes through two retinas, layered on top of each other. Finally, it hits a curved mirror at the back of the eye, which reflects it back onto the retinas. It's this mirror, and not the lens, which focuses the incoming light, in much the same way that those in segmented telescopes do.

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Amazing article. and some people say there's no God.

#1 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-12-02 01:15 PM | Reply

The ---- G-d got to do with it?

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-02 01:39 PM | Reply

The ---- G-d got to do with it?
#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-02 01:39 PM

Imo we are being kept from an incredible future because of the very real inclination people have for "worshipping gods", and with such alarming results so far.

#3 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2017-12-02 02:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"God is a sound people make when they're too tired to think anymore."
―Edward Abbey

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-02 02:47 PM | Reply

Like a flock of birds? Or that giant shark that ate your cousin?

Inevitability, evolution or inclination - it always equates to humans comparing their senses and concepts to even machinery designed for large spectrum assignments. Such ignorance leaves me stunned somewhat, but it's that craving for insight that is finding for ourselves in everything. Searching for our own meaning is recognition of greater meaning.

#5 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2017-12-02 03:36 PM | Reply

Amazing article. and some people say there's no God.

Which is just as foolish as saying there is definitely a God.

Agnosticism is the only logically defensible position without invoking faith.

And no, claiming God definitely exists is not faith.

#6 | Posted by jpw at 2017-12-02 11:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The ---- G-d got to do with it?
#2 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Everything.

#7 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-12-03 03:31 PM | Reply

What's ---- got to do, got to do with it
What's ---- but a second hand in lotion.
What's ---- got to do, got to do with it
Who needs a ---- when a ---- can be broken.

#8 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-12-03 07:30 PM | Reply

"in lotion"? Ha!

#9 | Posted by Snowfake at 2017-12-04 09:13 AM | Reply

Imo we are being kept from an incredible future because of the very real inclination people have for "worshipping gods", and with such alarming results so far.

#3 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2017-12-02 02:16 PMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive | Newsworthy 1

Good point.

I used to be a non-believer but over the last couple of years a lot of that has changed. Do I know God? I hope to truly understand one day. And one of the biggest reasons we don't truly understand is because of the stupid biblical indoctrination we all got from birth forward. The doctrine of the Roman cult, Christianity, widely called the Catholic church by those who would try to separate their faith form the Roman Catholic Church. Problem is, you can't. It doesn't matter that you differ on things like full Immersion baptism, communion or ditching the funny garb, it's pretty much the same old story.

I will leave you with this. It is recorded that Jesus said "the kingdom of heaven is within you" I believe that if you want to tell someone who god is, You must first show them who God is and that is done with your behaviors.

I believe that "Jesus" is a fabricated character and the man's name was Yeshua Ben Panthera.

There's no satisfactory physical proof of Christ, Christ is associated with the solar worship myth, Christ's miracles couldn't have taken place without historical recognition, Heretics were not crucified under Roman law. Herod died in 4 B.C., The only Census registration was under Quirinus in A.D. 6, The slaughter of the male children didn't take place, There's no proof that the gospels were written by the men whose names they bear, It's doubtful that Peter was ever in Rome.
~MP Hall

#10 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2017-12-04 04:27 PM | Reply

BTW That article is cool...

#11 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2017-12-04 04:28 PM | Reply

#10 |

Hardly any objective scholar doubts the historicity of Jesus.

While scholars have criticized Jesus scholarship for religious bias and lack of methodological soundness,[nb 7] with very few exceptions such critics generally do support the historicity of Jesus and reject the Christ myth theory that Jesus never existed.[17][nb 8][19][20][21]

en.wikipedia.org

Or the historical Jesus....

Virtually all scholars who write on the subject agree that Jesus existed,[5][6][7][8]

en.wikipedia.org

- Yeshua Ben Panthera.... was basically the Gospel according to the Romans, perpetrated on history several centuries after the fact

www.quora.com

2. The Greek philosopher Celsus relates in polemical work against the Christians preserved by the Christian theologian Origen that he had found it "written" that Jesus was the son of a Roman soldier named Pantera (Contra Celsum 1. 69).

This text dates to the late 2nd century. Origen replies that the story was concocted by those who refused to believe that Jesus had no human father and was conceived by the Holy Spirit.

jamestabor.com

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-04 04:45 PM | Reply

Is it safe to presume by "scholars" you mean theologians ?

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2017-12-04 06:36 PM | Reply

Agnosticism is the only logically defensible position without invoking faith.
#6 | POSTED BY JPW

I wish I could give this a million NW flags. It is something religious nutcases and atheist nutcases need to hear.

mo we are being kept from an incredible future because of the very real inclination people have for "worshipping gods", and with such alarming results so far.
#3 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT

The issue isn't the worshiping of gods, it is the rejection of science. The Catholics used to believe in God and Science. They are starting to do so again as well. Even Einstein believed in a casual actor.

#14 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-12-04 07:16 PM | Reply

#13

No, check the attributions.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-04 07:24 PM | Reply

"Agnosticism is the only logically defensible position without invoking faith."

Rejecting the supernatural is the logically defensible position.

Not taking a position on rejecting or accepting the supernatural; i.e. agnosticism, isn't even a position. It's holding your philosophical dick in your hand, which feels nice.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-04 07:41 PM | Reply

- the logically defensible position.

Most people would find it difficult to take a logically defensible position on quantum mechanics because they know so little about it. Same goes for the supernatural... which means beyond natural.

Unless, of course, it is one's opinion that they know everything, even those things currently beyond our understanding such as the exact nature of gravity, for instance, which we have faith in every day with no perfect understanding.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-04 07:52 PM | Reply

Bible or no Bible, God or no God, if it suits their purposes, people are going to order Subway's new Reubens by the foot whether they like them or not. So, come, Candide, and let's tend to our customers, and remind them buy my corned beef sandwiches.

--Shlomo Kumshotz, Shlomo's NY Deli, Borough Park, Brooklyn

#18 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-12-04 08:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

#18 nice

#19 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2017-12-04 08:36 PM | Reply

#20 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-12-04 09:51 PM | Reply

#18 FF

"Two atheists - John Gray and Alain de Botton - and two agnostics - Nassim Nicholas Taleb and I - meet for dinner at a Greek restaurant in Bayswater, London. The talk is genial, friendly and then, suddenly, intense when neo-atheism comes up. Three of us, including both atheists, have suffered abuse at the hands of this cult. Only Taleb seems to have escaped unscathed and this, we conclude, must be because he can do maths and people are afraid of maths."

www.newstatesman.com

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-04 10:33 PM | Reply

Ok Corky, I checked out your sources.

"The historical reliability of the gospels refers to the reliability and historic character of the four New Testament gospels as historical documents. Little in the four canonical gospels is considered to be historically reliable"

This is what you cite as the proof of Jesus?

Don't get me wrong here, I don't have an ax to grind, I simply don't go at life based on "faith".

#22 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2017-12-05 08:24 AM | Reply

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