Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Wednesday, November 29, 2017

Matt Lauer was fired from NBC News on Wednesday after an employee filed a complaint about "inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace," the network announced. Savannah Guthrie made the announcement at the top of the Today show, where Lauer has been an anchor for two decades. NBC News chairman Andrew Lack said in a memo to staff that it was the first complaint lodged against Lauer in his career at the network. But he said "we were also presented with reason to believe this may not have been an isolated incident."

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Where in the world was he?

#1 | Posted by cookfish at 2017-11-29 08:17 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

Zero tolerance is becoming a thing.

#2 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-11-29 08:37 AM | Reply

It probably seeps in from even casual contact with the White House Swamp.

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-11-29 08:52 AM | Reply

Did Lauer rape a 14 year old like that porcine degenerate in the White House?

#5 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2017-11-29 09:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#3 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Matt took sleazeball to levels not seen since Bill & Hillary Clinton ...

Matt Lauer put the fear of god into these women. He had relationships with reporters outside NBC that he cultivated just for this purpose. They knew that.
twitter.com

#6 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-11-29 09:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Zero tolerance is becoming a thing.

Due Process is dying. Accusation is becoming judge and jury.

#7 | Posted by boaz at 2017-11-29 09:16 AM | Reply

"Accusation is becoming judge and jury."

Not just Accusation.

Accusation, and accusation, and accusation, and accusation, and accusation, and accusation, and accusation, and accusation, and accusation.

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-11-29 09:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Still,

Trial by media isn't a way to go. I believe there are processes for firing people and doing it on accusation without determination can be fought in court.

#9 | Posted by boaz at 2017-11-29 09:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"doing it on accusation without determination can be fought in court."

Demanding due process for a worker? You sound like a Unionist.

#10 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-11-29 09:30 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Due Process is dying. Accusation is becoming judge and jury.

#7 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2017-11-29 09:16 AM | FLAG:

This isn't a due process issue. He had an employment contract, and his allowed for his dismissal in these circumstances. If it doesn't allow for it, he has recourse through lawsuits.

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-29 09:34 AM | Reply

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Why would anyone "allow" to be fired just at an accusation?

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2017-11-29 09:41 AM | Reply

"Why would anyone "allow" to be fired just at an accusation?"

Well, in a RTW state, you can be fired because today ends in -y.

But that's how you want it...right?

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-11-29 09:45 AM | Reply

But that's how you want it...right?

#13 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Yeah in the case of sexual harassment, if the company has some proof, why coddle sexual harassers because the company didn't fight a multi-year multi million dollar lawsuit again the Union.

Sexual harassers get away with it because from a companies perspective the ROI is too great to goto war.

So the women has to work with the sexual harassment ....

But that's how you want it .... right ?

#14 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-11-29 09:53 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"because the company didn't fight a multi-year multi million dollar lawsuit again the Union."

WTF are you babbling about? You're so clueless, you don't even know who would get sued.

"But that's how you want it .... right ?"

Boaz has made statements against worker rights in the past. Meanwhile, I've never suggested harassment is a part of employment.

Why do you continue to barf ugly statements, and then put them in other people's mouths?

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-11-29 09:57 AM | Reply

#3 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2017-11-29 08:50 AM | FLAG:
#6 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS AT 2017-11-29 09:10 AM | FLAG:

Good thing you have a guy who rises so gracefully above the sleaze in the Oval Office now.

Man, you people are a riot.

#16 | Posted by cbob at 2017-11-29 10:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

I have no love lost for Lauer. He was all hat and no cattle anyway. But I had no idea he was so sleazy.

#17 | Posted by cbob at 2017-11-29 10:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Matt Lauer had a $20 million dollar contract.

It's not a due process issue. It's not a right to work issue.

It's simple employment contracting and nothing more.

#18 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-29 10:07 AM | Reply

#19 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

You misspelled "the left knows how to take out the trash" there brainiac.

If this guy was a republican politician you would vote for him.

You might even commit voter fraud to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. You would be proving that voter fraud exists and is the definite reason Dear Leader lost by 3 million votes and sticking it to the lying trollops who are just trying to make a saint look like a bad guy.

#20 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-11-29 10:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I never would've figured Matt Lauer as a masher.

#21 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-11-29 11:34 AM | Reply

You gotta love, "Pull Her Hair!" Mackris (ironically a poster who uses the name of a harassment victim) mouthing off about sexual harassment.... and her "partner" in loofah/falafel showers egging her on, lmao.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2017-11-29 11:44 AM | Reply

No party or demographic is clean.

#23 | Posted by cbob at 2017-11-29 12:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#23 Exactly.

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-11-29 12:35 PM | Reply

Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump

Wow, Matt Lauer was just fired from NBC for "inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace." But when will the top executives at NBC & Comcast be fired for putting out so much Fake News. Check out Andy Lack's past!

So now that Matt Lauer is gone when will the Fake News practitioners at NBC be terminating the contract of Phil Griffin? And will they terminate low ratings Joe Scarborough based on the "unsolved mystery" that took place in Florida years ago? Investigate!
6:14 AM - 29 Nov 2017

While NBC is investigating, they need to investigate your time on The Apprentice. They need to release the tapes and release folks from NDAs.

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-11-29 12:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Its an official weaselflood. Lauer has been joined by the NPR News Chief and Garrison Keillor. I didn't see that last one coming.

#26 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2017-11-29 12:41 PM | Reply

"Keillor told The Associated Press of his firing in an email. In a follow-up statement, he said he was fired over "a story that I think is more interesting and more complicated than the version MPR heard." He didn't give details of the allegation."

www.sfgate.com

Bet it happened in Lake Wobegon.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2017-11-29 12:51 PM | Reply

NBC fires Lauer within hours of receiving a single allegation.

Meanwhile the president and most of the GOP continue to support a kiddy chaser's campaign for U.S. Senate.

#28 | Posted by rcade at 2017-11-29 01:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Meanwhile the president and most of the GOP continue to support a kiddy chaser's campaign for U.S. Senate.

#28 | POSTED BY RCADE

As if the Democrats are really going after Al Franken or John Conyers - yes, on a scale, Moore is worse.

#29 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-29 01:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

At this rate Im gonna end up with all the cool jobs in entertinment.

#30 | Posted by Tor at 2017-11-29 01:28 PM | Reply

I'm not sure the gravitas of Matt Lauer.

But is this actually news? Or simply a convenient distraction from the GOP's tax plan and Net Neutrality vote?

Honestly. The only two things democrats, liberals, the poor, and the middle class should be focusing on is defeating the GOP tax plan and defending net neutrality.

This isn't news.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-29 01:28 PM | Reply

As if the Democrats are really going after Al Franken ... - yes, on a scale, Moore is worse.
#29 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2017-11-29 01:23 PM | FLAG:

Isn't Franklin appearing before an ethics committee?

Isn't Trump campaigning for Moore?

Great comparison.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-29 01:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Franken*

Autocorrect made it Frankenstein then Franklin...

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-29 01:36 PM | Reply

"As if the Democrats are really going after Al Franken or John Conyers - yes, on a scale, Moore is worse."

Based on what we know now, which is subject to change, I don't think Dems should "go after" Franken and Conyers with the same intensity. I think they should go after the allegations made against them with the same intensity, but I'd like to see Tweeden make her claims under oath to the Senate ethics committee and I'd like to know the names of Franken's anonymous accusers before we lump him in the same basket as some of the others.

#34 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-11-29 01:36 PM | Reply

#31 the news would have come from NBC...I doubt they willingly chose to distract eyes from GOP efforts.

Not based on a single allegation per se...the accusor claimed to be one of many and apparently had compelling evidence to back up her accusation...which she made 2 days ago.

#35 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2017-11-29 01:40 PM | Reply

As if the Democrats are really going after Al Franken or John Conyers ...

Democratic pressure mounts on Rep. John Conyers to resign

www.nbcnews.com

As you know, the allegations against Franken aren't in the same ballpark as those against Moore or Conyers.

To you and every other Republican who isn't a monster: Stop using other politicians to deflect from the skeevy, mall-prowling, sex predator who brought a 15-year-old home from child custody court and ignored her terror as he placed her trembling hand on his ----. It makes it seem like you secretly want the molester to win.

#36 | Posted by rcade at 2017-11-29 01:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

It makes it seem like you secretly want the molester to win.

#36 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2017-11-29 01:48 PM | FLAG:

There's nothing secretive about it. They're gleefully marching around as Nazi coddlers and Pedo Coddlers.

Yes, Franken and Conyers have fault and culpability for what they've done but JeffJ and so many others are using the standard Republic playbook of expecting Dems to unilaterally disarm. "Sure, sure you have your guys resign and we'll make ours accept responsibility at a later date."

I'm fully prepared to begin addressing every person from Alabama that I cross paths with a Pedo Coddler from PedoBama. Since I live less than 50 miles from the state line I expect to use that often.

#37 | Posted by Reagan58 at 2017-11-29 02:02 PM | Reply

- Rcade's whatabout-ism,

That's pretty funny coming from one of our Professional Clinton Deflectors.

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2017-11-29 02:07 PM | Reply

I agree:

Debra Messing‏ @DebraMessing

Debra Messing Retweeted Donald J. Trump
So @NBC it seems like @Potus is putting out a Challenge. I think it's time for @NBC to investigate Trump allegations on the @NBC show The Apprentice.

Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump

Wow, Matt Lauer was just fired from NBC for "inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace." But when will the top executives at NBC & Comcast be fired for putting out so much Fake News. Check out Andy Lack's past!

#41 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-11-29 02:13 PM | Reply

#38 | Posted by JeffJ

Guess I missed the Whataboutism. I don't think you actually understand what it is...

#42 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-11-29 03:03 PM | Reply

JeffJ: You're right. Politicians aren't the same thing as media figures. They're more important and should be held to a higher standard.

Matt Lauer was fired. Charlie Rose was fired. Roy Moore will be allowed in the U.S. Senate if he wins. The Senate GOP leadership won't make a move to kick him out.

#43 | Posted by rcade at 2017-11-29 03:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"No party or demographic is clean."

'We, Too, Are Survivors.' 223 Women in National Security Sign Open Letter on Sexual Harassment

Signed by current and former diplomats, civil servants, servicemembers and development workers, the letter calls for stronger sexual harassment reporting, mandatory training and outside data collection on how often it occurs.

"This is not just a problem in Hollywood, Silicon Valley, newsrooms or Congress," reads the letter, which was shared with TIME. "These abuses are born of imbalances of power and environments that permit such practices while silencing and shaming their survivors."

"Assault and harassment are just as much as a problem for women working on the night-shift cleaning offices as it is for diplomats," says retired Ambassador Nina Hachigian, who co-authored the letter with former State Department official Jenna Ben-Yehuda.

time.com

#44 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-11-29 03:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Senate GOP leadership won't make a move to kick him out.

#43 | POSTED BY RCADE

We'll know soon enough.

#45 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-29 03:14 PM | Reply

#12 | Posted by boaz

You haven't read anything about it obviously including the linked article. First NBC was presented with a highly detailed event by the accuser. From what I read of it, it sounded like it is pretty much a slam dunk and the action they took on a single (so far) accusation suggests that. He was MAJOR money for them. Second even before Harvey Weinstein's perversions erupted, The Times and Variety magazine were working on investigations into Lauer's behavior. Some of what appears to be leaking suggests where Weinstein paid women off Lauer scared them. I am waiting for more information on a final judgement but he sounds like one damned evil and manipulative -----.

To be perfectly honest I truly never liked the guy. He made my skin crawl for some reason. I always thought something was off about him. Guess I was right but not in the way I was expecting. I mean I figured him for a closet jerk but it is looking like the dude is downright evil.

#46 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-11-29 03:14 PM | Reply

I mean I figured him for a closet jerk but it is looking like the dude is downright evil.

#46 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE

The linked article for this thread doesn't give much detail. What are you basing this on?

#47 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-29 03:21 PM | Reply

He was MAJOR money for them.

He also costs major money. This firing gets them out from under a huge contract. I wonder whether that played a role at all in this speedy decision.

#48 | Posted by rcade at 2017-11-29 03:22 PM | Reply

JeffJ: You're right. Politicians aren't the same thing as media figures. They're more important and should be held to a higher standard.

#43 | POSTED BY RCADE

My point was that government and the private sector don't operate the same way. To draw equivalences between the Weinstein treatment (ignoring the fact that he was given a pass for decades) with Roy Moore as one Team behaving better than the other is more than a stretch.

#49 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-29 03:23 PM | Reply

"as one Team behaving better than the other is more than a stretch."

Really? From my observation, one party seems to be investigating their incidences, while the other party nominates and elects them AFTER the fact.

#50 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-11-29 03:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Really? From my observation, one party seems to be investigating their incidences, while the other party nominates and elects them AFTER the fact.

#50 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Roy Moore won the nomination before the story broke regarding his predatory behavior. Top Republicans not named Trump have been calling on him to drop out. We'll see how this all plays out quickly enough. Also, calling on Conyers to resign is easy politically. He's in his 80's and represents a district that overwhelmingly votes Democratic. As it pertains to Conyers, I often wondered how he could have ever married Monica who is a horrible person. Now I know.

#51 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-29 03:42 PM | Reply

Roy Moore should be allowed in the Senate, based on the Ted Kennedy standard. Moore never got any young woman killed. Kennedy spent 30 or 40 years in the Senate after the fact.

#52 | Posted by nullifidian at 2017-11-29 03:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Roy Moore should be allowed in the Senate, based on the Denny Hastert standard.

#53 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-11-29 03:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"Also, calling on Conyers to resign is easy politically. He's in his 80's and represents a district that overwhelmingly votes Democratic."

The same could be said of Moore and Alabama. If Moore gets in and the Senate votes to oust him, the governor of AL could easily replace him with another Republican.

#54 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-11-29 03:52 PM | Reply

"Roy Moore won the nomination before the story broke regarding his predatory behavior. "

And the President backs Moore after the story broke. And the fine folks of Alabama are going to elect Moore after the story broke.

It's like Matt Lauer being announced as host of Today, tomorrow.

#55 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-11-29 03:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#52

Killed Bill O'Reilly... and forgot to bury him.

#56 | Posted by Corky at 2017-11-29 03:58 PM | Reply

Seth Abramson‏ @SethAbramson

Trump is demanding a probe of alleged sexual harrassment at NBC.

Mark Burnett has been protecting from release tapes of on-set sexual harrassment by a big NBC personality: Trump.

So yes, let's see what NBC personalities have been doing in the workplace.

#57 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-11-29 04:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Lawrence O'Donnell‏ @Lawrence

Lawrence O'Donnell Retweeted Ed Krassenstein
Great idea but NBC doesn't own that video. Mark Burnett does. And he is keeping it hidden for his friend Donald.

Ed Krassenstein‏ @EdKrassen

Dear @nbc employees,
In light of Trump's attacks against your network today, today would be a great day to leak the Celebrity Apprentice tapes showing Trump's racial remarks, and sexual misconduct, regardless of the NDAs which were signed.
America Deserves to Know!

#58 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-11-29 04:38 PM | Reply

The linked article for this thread doesn't give much detail. What are you basing this on?

#47 | Posted by JeffJ

That's the problem. So far only a couple items have been leaked and why I am saying it SEEMS. They are insinuating a lot in these articles but the specifics have yet to come. But the couple leaked bits are daming:

- He purposely cultivated relationships with reporters outside NBC in order to have leverage if one of his victims said something.
- He made his victims aware of that and threatened them so that they were apparently very scared. Scared of what hasn't been said.

That means he knew EXACTLY what he was doing and that it is very wrong.

#59 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-11-29 04:41 PM | Reply

He also costs major money. This firing gets them out from under a huge contract. I wonder whether that played a role at all in this speedy decision.

#48 | Posted by rcade

Yes he did cost major money at $25 million a year with a daily show. Apparently the ratings made him worth that.

#60 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-11-29 04:52 PM | Reply

Rcade,

"The Senate GOP leadership won't make a move to kick him out."

Whether you agree or not if he wins he was voted in by the people, not hired like everyone else is.

#61 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2017-11-29 04:53 PM | Reply

NPR's David Sweeney, Garrison Keilor, and PBS's Charlie Rose.

Seems to be a pattern at these progressive taxpayer-subsidized "news" outlets.

#62 | Posted by nullifidian at 2017-11-29 04:58 PM | Reply

#62

Volunteers at Make America Regressive Again! rallies.

#63 | Posted by Corky at 2017-11-29 05:00 PM | Reply

Yes Garrison Keilor is such a lech!

Bailiff! Whack his pee pee!

He accidentally touched a woman's bare back. The horror!

Garrison was so embarrassed about it he wrote an email to the woman to apologize.

And the apology was accepted. And so Garrison thought they were still friends until he got a call from her lawyer.

How can we allow such a horrible person to walk amongst us?

Lock Him Up!

But, Trump walking in on 14 year old girls and ogling them and then bragging about it?

Well, we should make him our President and Lord Commander!

Our country has serious problems.

#64 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-29 05:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

According to Daily Variety, who was going to break the story today but previewed it to NBC, these are the allegations against Lauer:

As the co-host of NBC's "Today," Matt Lauer once gave a colleague a sex toy as a present. It included an explicit note about how he wanted to use it on her, which left her mortified.

On another day, he summoned a different female employee to his office, and then dropped his pants, showing her his penis. After the employee declined to do anything, visibly shaken, he reprimanded her for not engaging in a sexual act.

He would sometimes quiz female producers about who they'd slept with, offering to trade names. And he loved to engage in a crass quiz game with men and women in the office: "f -- , marry, or kill," in which he would identify the female co-hosts that he'd most like to sleep with.

These accounts of Lauer's behavior at NBC are the result of a two-month investigation by Variety, with dozens of interviews with current and former staffers. Variety has talked to three women who identified themselves as victims of sexual harassment by Lauer, and their stories have been corroborated by friends or colleagues that they told at the time.

The cause of his dismissal, according to sources, was a detailed complaint from another current NBC employee about inappropriate sexual conduct from Lauer that started on a trip at the Sochi Olympics in 2014 and continued for several months.

Several women told Variety they complained to executives at the network about Lauer's behavior, which fell on deaf ears given the lucrative advertising surrounding "Today." NBC declined to comment.

Supposedly, more allegations are going to come out in the next day or so.

Matt Lauer Accused of Sexual Harassment by Multiple Women (EXCLUSIVE)

#65 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-11-29 05:27 PM | Reply

Seems to be a pattern at these progressive taxpayer-subsidized "news" outlets.
#62 | Posted by nullifidian

Rush Limbaugh is a drug addict and alleged child rapist.

#66 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-11-29 06:10 PM | Reply

Roy Moore should be allowed in girls locker rooms, based on the Donald Trump standard.

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-29 06:23 PM | Reply

"Matt Lauer being fired over allegations of sexual harassment is laced with irony given that Lauer is suspected to have played a key role in leaking the infamous Hollywood Access tape that was used to demonize Donald Trump as an abuser of women."
www.prisonplanet.com

If true, it supports my view that Trump has teflon. Liberal bitching and whining notwithstanding.

#68 | Posted by Ray at 2017-11-29 06:47 PM | Reply

Null,

These people make Trump look like an amateur.

Showing women your d@#$ for crying out loud.

#69 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2017-11-29 07:00 PM | Reply

#69 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

You must be confused if you think seeing a phallus is worse than a stranger coming up, grabbing your privates and sticking his tongue down your throat when he "doesn't even wait" for permission.

#70 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-11-29 07:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Indiana,

"You must be confused if you think seeing a phallus is worse than a stranger coming up, grabbing your privates and sticking his tongue down your throat when he "doesn't even wait" for permission."

Did Trump actually grab any women by the privates?

Or are you spreading "fake news"?

#71 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2017-11-29 08:05 PM | Reply

#71 - Bill

He claims he did. Whether or not he was telling the truth is anybody's guess.

#72 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-29 08:07 PM | Reply

Jeff,

We might need some women coming forward before it moves from fake news to real news...don't cha think?

Until then it's just locker room talk like guys do.

#73 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2017-11-29 08:20 PM | Reply

Jeff,

I just have my doubts we're ever going to hear about Trump showing any woman his junk (without her permission).

#74 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2017-11-29 08:26 PM | Reply

Bill,

17 women have accused Trump of sexual harassment.

Credible? Don't know. However, given how little media traction these accusations garnered, my guess is the allegations are probably somewhat flimsy.

#75 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-29 08:31 PM | Reply

Whether you agree or not if [Roy Moore] wins he was voted in by the people, not hired like everyone else is.

No one is hired to work in the Senate.

If the people of Alabama want a child molester for a Senator, then may all their children be horribly molested.

#76 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-29 08:43 PM | Reply

Bill Johnson is a pretty disgusting human being.

Seriously revolting poster.

#77 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-29 08:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Nice argument, bill... Trump is merely a liar.

Lol!

#78 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2017-11-29 08:49 PM | Reply

Nice argument, bill... Trump is merely a liar.

Lol!

Posted by Alexandrite at 2017-11-29 08:49 PM | Reply

Yawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn Closet case spouts off hubris. Why am I NOT surprised.

#79 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-29 08:52 PM | Reply

17 women have accused Trump of sexual harassment.
Credible? Don't know.

You don't care, you mean.

Trump is a republican. Republicans aren't held to any standards.

17 women accused Trump? They're all liars!

Roy Moore is a peach!

But Al Franken. He's got to resign. How dare he pose for a photograph!!

#81 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-29 08:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

I sort of figured this Matt Lauer story would be lost on most liberals.
Their lack of moral sensibilities makes them see everything the same.
#80 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2017-11-29 08:57 PM | FLAG:

A Republican, talking about morals.

The irony is ------- hilarious.

#82 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-29 09:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I sort of figured this Matt Lauer story would be lost on most liberals.
Their lack of moral sensibilities makes them see everything the same.
#80 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2017-11-29 08:57 PM | FLAG:

By the way, JackAss. Matt Lauer was fired from NBC. Kevin Spacey, Louie CK, and Harvey Weinstein have been blacklisted by Hollywood. Anthony Weiner has a prison sentence.

Meanwhile. Are Trump's accusers credible? Are Roy Moore's? Republicans couldn't care any less.

Why don't you get off your ------- high horse and shut the ---- up.

Do me a favor. Stop posting here.

#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-29 09:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Closet case making moral judgements on ANYONE i hypocrisy to the max.

#84 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-29 09:12 PM | Reply

This is funny.

Libs didn't care about the sexual harrassment charges against Clinton. That and the -------- he got in the White House.

They voted him in anyway. Twice!

Good work Johnson. #80 was on the money.

#85 | Posted by Ray at 2017-11-29 09:18 PM | Reply

#85 | POSTED BY RAY AT 2017-11-29 09:18 PM | FLAG:

The local troll had crawled out of his fool's gold cave.

Hello, Troll.

#86 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-29 09:20 PM | Reply

Hello, Troll.

You shouldn't feed the trolls. This phoney puritanical anger brings back memories.

Who can forget those immortal words, "I did not have sex with that woman."
It's up there with Nixon's, "I am not a crook."

Remember Gennifer Flowers? She and a few others banned together to out Clinton. Libs didn't care.

How quickly libs forget their own sins.

#87 | Posted by Ray at 2017-11-29 09:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When it comes down to it, both sides don't give a damn about sexual purity.
It's always about political power.

#88 | Posted by Ray at 2017-11-29 09:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You shouldn't feed the trolls.

So we should ignore you?

Okay.

#89 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-29 09:57 PM | Reply

Ray, I used to not care. Now I do. I now am finally understanding just what a huge problem this is.

#90 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-11-29 09:57 PM | Reply

#88 | POSTED BY RAY

At the politician level sure.

But as a person I disagree completely. Having seen it at work, it destroys harmony and a good working environment.

#91 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-11-29 10:08 PM | Reply

#90 | POSTED BY MODER8

That's to your credit.

These people are defending a system designed by elitists that's screwing them over in every direction. They don't see it.

#92 | Posted by Ray at 2017-11-29 10:09 PM | Reply

But as a person I disagree completely. Having seen it at work, it destroys harmony and a good working environment.
#91 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Looking at it from a broader perspective, the middle class is sinking into poverty. It's not an accident. It's intentional.

#93 | Posted by Ray at 2017-11-29 10:13 PM | Reply

Posting this because it mentions Epstein, the pedophile the right likes to associate with Clinton and who Trump pretends not to know, now:

Trump Bragged: ‘Nothing in the World Like First-Rate P**sy'

In 2000, Corcoran was a guest on Trump's 727 that weekend, and he wasn't the only one. The article published in Maximum Golf magazine notes Trump had to wait at the marine terminal for now-disgraced pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein and his society gal-pal Ghislaine Maxwell -- who have since been accused by dozens of women of running what amounted to a "sex slave" ring. Corcoran, who didn't know the pair at the time, remembers Trump standing in the doorway of the plane yelling to them, "You broke the cardinal rule, Jeffery! Never be late for someone else's plane!"

Though not mentioned in the article, Corcoran now recalls a young woman boarding with them. "I honestly couldn't guess her age, but she was young made up to look a bit older," he says, adding that nothing "untoward" happened during the flight.

www.thedailybeast.com

#94 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-11-29 10:48 PM | Reply

He had a remote push button door lock.

Bill Clinton is kicking himself for not thinking of that during his oval office days.

#95 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-11-30 10:09 AM | Reply

As if the Democrats are really going after Al Franken or John Conyers - yes, on a scale, Moore is worse.

#29 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

If Moore is worse, then why did you deflect to Dems while only paying lip service to Moore?

#96 | Posted by jpw at 2017-11-30 10:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Guess I missed the Whataboutism. I don't think you actually understand what it is...

#42 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE

They know what it is, they just need to smear it because it's one of their favorite tools.

Just like how there became an alt-left to counter their racist, white supremacist alt-right.

If it makes them look bad, they have to make it look bad or useless.

#97 | Posted by jpw at 2017-11-30 10:49 AM | Reply

My point was that government and the private sector don't operate the same way. To draw equivalences between the Weinstein treatment (ignoring the fact that he was given a pass for decades) with Roy Moore as one Team behaving better than the other is more than a stretch.

#49 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

See? The left, as they call it, responds by canning these ---holes.

They respond by electing them, supporting them and deflecting, oddly, to the left who is dealing with situation appropriately.

But hey, mackris says they're not hypocrites when it comes to "family values" so it must be true!

#98 | Posted by jpw at 2017-11-30 10:54 AM | Reply

Roy Moore should be allowed in the Senate, based on the Ted Kennedy standard. Moore never got any young woman killed. Kennedy spent 30 or 40 years in the Senate after the fact.

#52 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Wow. You've gotten so sad you're outright parroting the right's talking points now.

#99 | Posted by jpw at 2017-11-30 10:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

These people make Trump look like an amateur.
Showing women your d@#$ for crying out loud.
#69 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

You're a disgusting excuse for a human being.

#100 | Posted by jpw at 2017-11-30 11:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Roy Moore should be allowed in the Senate, based on the Ted Kennedy standard. Moore never got any young woman killed. Kennedy spent 30 or 40 years in the Senate after the fact.

#52 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

This is probably the saddest thing I've ever seen written here. You've become absolutely pathetic.

You need to take a break and really examine your life.

#101 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-11-30 11:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

We might need some women coming forward before it moves from fake news to real news...don't cha think?
Until then it's just locker room talk like guys do.

#73 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Motion seconded.

#102 | Posted by jpw at 2017-11-30 11:03 AM | Reply

I sort of figured this Matt Lauer story would be lost on most liberals.
Their lack of moral sensibilities makes them see everything the same.

#80 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Funny you'd talk about moral sensibilities.

Considering you blather on about it but don't seem to actually show any.

#103 | Posted by jpw at 2017-11-30 11:05 AM | Reply

We might need some women coming forward before it moves from fake news to real news...don't cha think?
Until then it's just locker room talk like guys do.

#73 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

I have good news for you! Read this link: en.wikipedia.org

#104 | Posted by cbob at 2017-11-30 11:41 AM | Reply

Cbob,

That's it?

Quoting Lt Lockhart from Full Metal Jacket. "Joker, Where's the weenie?"

#105 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2017-11-30 01:56 PM | Reply

Cbob,
That's it?
Quoting Lt Lockhart from Full Metal Jacket. "Joker, Where's the weenie?"

#105 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2017-11-30 01:56 PM | FLAG:

Never mind. You're hopeless.

#106 | Posted by cbob at 2017-11-30 02:08 PM | Reply

Cbob,

I voted for Clinton both terms and thought it was a waste of time going after him.

Ultimately, his mistake was lying under oath.

Frankly whatever grievances women may have is their business.

I believed it then and I believe it now.

Let these women take it to court and get a conviction.

Otherwise its between them.

#107 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2017-11-30 02:59 PM | Reply

I totally support women going after men who harass them regardless what politics they support.

But its still between them.

#108 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2017-11-30 03:05 PM | Reply

And I'm not impressed with trial by public opinion.

Let these grown adults fight their own problems.

Yea... I do agree there's people everywhere acting inappropriate.

But its between them.

Thanks to the internet a lot of people are getting awfully nosey, voyeuristic and creepy.

I don't want to know so much about some things and how people run their lives.

#109 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2017-11-30 03:23 PM | Reply

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