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Monday, November 20, 2017

Libya will investigate alleged slave trading in the country, the internationally recognised government announced Sunday, following the release of video footage appearing to show migrants being auctioned off.

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Slavery, still where it began..

#1 | Posted by boaz at 2017-11-20 08:48 AM | Reply

If you're talking about American slavery, it began in what would become the United States when the market for humans got started. Without the evil of buyers there are no slaves.

The first African slaves were shipped to the colony of Jamestown, Virginia, in 1619.

#2 | Posted by rcade at 2017-11-20 10:08 AM | Reply

#2 Um, the first African slaves in recorded history are Nubians being sold to Egyptians around 3,000 BC by other Nubians. Slavery is actually an ancient human tradition.

#3 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-11-20 10:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You are correct, Heliumrat,

Rcade,

Africans (specifically muslim Africans) have been trading humans long before England discovered them and started shipping them to the colonies. Islam has no problem in slavery or promoting it. Christianity was the same way, but we have progressed since the early centuries.

#4 | Posted by boaz at 2017-11-20 10:39 AM | Reply

Educate yourself RCade:

History of Slavery

#5 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-11-20 11:47 AM | Reply

My comment was quite clearly about American slavery. Hence the "If you're talking about American slavery" part.

I did not claim that all slavery begin here. Reading is fundamental.

Islam has no problem in slavery or promoting it.

Stop posting Islam hate here.

#6 | Posted by rcade at 2017-11-20 11:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I did not claim that all slavery begin here. Reading is fundamental.

I saw that, but the article is about slavery sales in Libya...so why deflect to American slavery?

#7 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-11-20 01:46 PM | Reply

Because it appeared his reference to when slavery "began" was about the U.S., not the entire history of the world. When there's a slavery discussion here it's focused on American history, not all the way back to 3000 B.C.

#8 | Posted by rcade at 2017-11-20 03:47 PM | Reply

I didn't get that, but I see how somebody could from the text.

#9 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-20 04:17 PM | Reply

#8 and #9,

I was talking about how most of the slavery trade began in Muslim dominated African countries.

#10 | Posted by boaz at 2017-11-21 08:31 AM | Reply

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aaaaand you went off the deep end. Islam started in the 7th century. Slavery dates to at least 3000 BC, probably far, far older.

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-21 09:12 AM | Reply

Time for some Hardcore History, Blitz Edition - "Addicted to Bondage"

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no, it's not the good kind of bondage.

#12 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-21 11:59 AM | Reply

When there's a slavery discussion here it's focused on American history, not all the way back to 3000 B.C.-RCade

I was talking about how most of the slavery trade began in Muslim dominated African countries.-Boaz

you went off the deep end. Islam started in the 7th century. Slavery dates to at least 3000 BC, probably far, far older. -Sitz

Everyone's right. To Boaz' point (which started the sub-discussion in the first place) in the Middle Ages, the Slave Trade, as it relates to American and European slavery, began with the Arabs in North Africa:

South of the Mediterranean, the dynasties of Arabs along the coast stimulate an African slave trade. The town of Zawila develops in the Sahara in about 700 specifically as a trading station for slaves. Captured in the region around Lake Chad, they are sold to Arab households in a Muslim world which by the 8th century stretches from Spain to Persia.

Slavery is an accepted part of life in Arabia during the time of Muhammad, in the 7th century, and the Qur'an offers no arguments against the practice. It merely states, particularly in relation to female slaves, that they must be well treated. In general that has been the case, compared with the barbaric treatment of slaves in some Christian communities.

RCade's point then follows:
The Portuguese expeditions of the 15th century bring European ships for the first time into regular contact with sub-Saharan Africa. This region has long been the source of slaves for the route through the Sahara to the Mediterranean. The arrival of the Portuguese opens up another channel.

Portuguese settlers move into the Cape Verde islands in about 1460. In 1466 they are given an economic advantage which guarantees their prosperity. They are granted a monopoly of a new slave trade. On the coast of Guinea the Portuguese are now setting up trading stations to buy captive Africans.

Some of these slaves are used to work the settlers' estates in the Cape Verde islands. Others are sent north for sale in Madeira, or in Portugal and Spain - where Seville now becomes an important market. Africans have been imported by this sea route into Europe since at least 1444, when one of Henry the Navigator's expeditions returns with slaves exchanged for Moorish prisoners.

This African trade, together with the prosperity of the Cape Verde Islands, expands greatly with the development of labour-intensive plantations growing sugar, cotton and tobacco in the Caribbean and America.

For the Portuguese, this as mostly about money, as the slave business constituted over 70% of their foreign trade and 40% of their economic output.

#13 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-11-21 01:13 PM | Reply

Christianity was the same way, but we have progressed since the early centuries.

#4 | Posted by boaz at 2017-11-20 10:39 AMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

Boaz, you cant lend Christianity the opportunity to distance it's self from extremists who call themselves "Christians" but don't pass your litmus test without affording Muslims the same opportunity.

#14 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2017-11-21 02:09 PM | Reply

We're all slaves to sin.

#15 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-11-21 05:03 PM | Reply

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