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Saturday, November 18, 2017

Something quite out of the ordinary occurred in the skies over Oregon on October 25. A mystery aircraft was flying in daylight hours among the steady stream of airliners that traverse from south to north, between locales in California and Nevada and cities like Portland and Seattle and beyond. The incident began, at least as best we can tell, around 4:30 pm near the California-Oregon border and resulted in multiple pilot eyewitnesses, recorded air traffic control audio, and eventual confirmations from both the FAA and North American Aerospace Command (NORAD) that it did indeed occur.

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Air traffic control audio recorded over at LiveATC.com of Seattle Center Sector 14 is available from the time of the incident and it corroborates much of this information. You can listen to the entire series of exchanges here starting at around the 20 minute mark and through to the first part of the next time interval recording that can be found here.

The audio is fantastic as it illustrates that there were many communications between various jet crews and Seattle Center whose controllers tried to track the aircraft as it made its way north towards the Willamette Valley.

The aircraft was not able to be tracked on radar nor did it show up on crews' digital traffic collision avoidance systems (TCAS), but it was clearly there, although never quite close enough to positively identify what its exact type was.

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Drug running.

#1 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-18 08:10 AM | Reply

Next generation Russian spy plane, probably a satellite guided robot drone. Did you read the part where it performed a turn outside of a human pilot's capacity to perform?

#2 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-11-18 08:31 AM | Reply

That's not what it said. It said it executed a turn a civilian aircraft can't perform, but that's not an accurate claim.

#3 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-18 11:50 AM | Reply

"The audio is fantastic as it illustrates that there were many communications between various jet crews and Seattle Center whose controllers tried to track the aircraft as it made its way north towards the Willamette Valley. The aircraft was not able to be tracked on radar nor did it show up on crews' digital traffic collision avoidance systems (TCAS), but it was clearly there, although never quite close enough to positively identify what its exact type was."

But yeah, your point was:


It was initially heading SW and it made a pretty sharp turn to the North. Way harder/faster than what a commercial aircraft could handle at that speed/altitude without ripping the wings off."

So... that's not exactly a drug running aircraft, right?

I'm still going with next generation Russian stealth drone.

But I am willing to accept Reptoid as an answer.

#4 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-11-18 12:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

More likely there are several commercial and private jets that can make that turn. That's a normal altitude for efficient subsonic jet flight, and plenty are faster than a 737.

Russian stealth drone, no, the physics don't add up. Unless there's a secret Russian jet base in Canada, or a stealth Russian aircraft carrier somewhere off the West Coast, it's not Russian. If the Russians send a spy plane to overfly us, it's going to be at the edge of space and moving at mach 8+.

#5 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-18 01:08 PM | Reply

Everything the Russians have that can get here just isn't stealthy in the slightest. It takes a bunch of air to air refuelings to get here, and we see the whole mission package on radar the entire time. They are allowed to overfly us legally with Tu-95 Bear bombers, they don't have to be stealthy. iirc, Open Skies treaty.

#6 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-18 01:10 PM | Reply

Okay, so you're also going with Reptoids? I can understand that.

#7 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-11-18 01:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#5 Hmm. I have always had my doubts about the Canadians, so it could have been powered by beavers and maple syrup, much like the worlds first car built in 1830 (but the beavers ate the wooden wheels, so it didn't last long).

#8 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-11-18 02:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

lol. yeah, I'll stick with drug smugglers. Private jets can haul a lot of coke pretty easily.

#9 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-18 06:14 PM | Reply

all that chatter, all those cool pics in the lengthy article, ... and no picture?
nice try.

i was hoping it was time! NOT.

#10 | Posted by ichiro at 2017-11-18 09:12 PM | Reply

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#9 i'm going with firing ppl abusing the air-waves.

#11 | Posted by ichiro at 2017-11-18 09:15 PM | Reply

Whatever it is, it is certainly a UFO.

#12 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2017-11-19 10:27 AM | Reply

750kts rules out commercial people haulers as a general rule (article doesn't specify TAS or SOG). I've experienced really impressive tailwind flying north toward Portland. I'll go with a Gulfstream 500 or 650. They're surprisingly agile, too.

#13 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2017-11-19 04:23 PM | Reply

So why wouldn't it show up on radar, unless it was a stealth design, or very small?

#14 | Posted by Snowfake at 2017-11-19 09:50 PM | Reply

#14 It was showing up on some radars. I suspect atmospheric conditions were such that the radar was being refracted. Total guess without having been there. Now, that said, it's entirely possible that it was not commercial at all and was in fact something like an F-22. The failure of the IFF may have been just that: a system failure.

#15 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2017-11-20 07:47 AM | Reply

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