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Tuesday, November 14, 2017

RANCHO TEHAMA, CA (RNN) - A shooting at an elementary school Tuesday in northern California claimed the lives of at least three people, said a sheriff's office spokesman.

Assistant Sheriff Phil Johnston told Action News Now said he was told that the suspected shooter was killed by law enforcement officers. The violence started at a home and moved to Tehama Elementary School.

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"I don't know how many victims; I know of at least three deaths," Johnston said. "I don't know any information at this time about any of the victims at the school. I know that we have Medivac'd a number of students, I know that the school's been cleared."

He said the kids who were at the school are in a safe location

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Is it too early to say its too early to talk about this?

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2017-11-14 01:52 PM | Reply

Just the tree of liberty being refreshed with the blood of our children.

So just add these deaths to the 90 other Americans who died today by gun violence in America.

We have the equivalent of the greatest mass shooting in history every day in America.

WE don't talk about that.

Why should we even talk about this?

Nothing Can Be Done.

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-14 02:34 PM | Reply

Hooray for dead kids, because the alternative means we have been disarmed by our government.

And dead kids is far superior to being disarmed.

So I say it again, hooray for dead kids.

They died for our freedom to own guns. I think Trump should give each tiny corpse the Congressional Medal of Honor.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-14 02:41 PM | Reply

up to 5 dead

#4 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-11-14 03:39 PM | Reply

In order to mix things up let's all send our prayers and thoughts instead of thoughts and prayers. That will make a difference

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-11-14 03:48 PM | Reply

$50 says there are pictures of this guy posing with a gun.
$50 more says mental problems.

#6 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2017-11-14 04:12 PM | Reply

$50 more says mental problems.

#6 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Gee do you really think he may have had mental problems?

Genius! Whodathunkit?

Regardless, he doesn't have mental problems any more.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-14 04:24 PM | Reply

"$50 says there are pictures of this guy posing with a gun."

Ban cameras!
Problem solved.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-14 04:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We can't deport 20 million illegals but confiscating 300 million plus firearms no problem.

#9 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-11-14 08:50 PM | Reply

There's 300 million illegal guns in America?

Thanks, NRA!

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-14 09:00 PM | Reply

#10 | Posted by snoofy
I guess you would rather be under British rule. You can move there.

#11 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-11-14 10:03 PM | Reply

I guess you'd rather get gunned down at a concert or movie theater or school.
You're in the right country.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-14 10:11 PM | Reply

#12

He comes to things like concerts armed so he can hide under the seats when someone starts shooting.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2017-11-15 08:01 AM | Reply

Can't go to concerts armed. Gun Free Zones. They even search bags.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-15 08:52 AM | Reply

"The gunman behind a rampage in Northern California was out on bail after being charged with stabbing a neighbor and had been the subject of a domestic violence call the day before, according to the sheriff's office and court records in Tehama County, a rural area 100 miles of Sacramento."

#15 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-15 10:06 AM | Reply

if 15 is accurate, then we have the problem right there. Why are we catching and releasing?

Stop the war on drugs, stop the petty arrests, and lock up the people who are actively violent. You'll see the occurrences of these shootings fall away.

#16 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2017-11-15 10:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Why are we catching and releasing?" - #16 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2017-11-15 10:16 AM

Reminds me...

Fish that are caught and then released go back home with a tale of alien abduction none of their friends believe.

#17 | Posted by Hans at 2017-11-15 10:19 AM | Reply

if 15 is accurate

#16 | POSTED BY KWRX25 AT 2017-11-15 10:16 AM | FLAG:

ABC & FoxNews, along with multiple other sources, are all saying this is the case.

So yeah, out on bail from a violent crime charge & armed, in a state with a firearm registry & assault weapon ban, despite neighbors calling the police multiple times.

#18 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-15 10:29 AM | Reply

Surprised? I thought all those laws passed in California were supposed to make everyone safe.

#19 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-11-15 01:01 PM | Reply

I thought all those laws passed in California were supposed to make everyone safe.

Which laws exactly?

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-15 01:08 PM | Reply

#20 | Posted by ClownShack, magazine ban, assault weapon ban, no CCP, ETC. come on, California has the most restrictive gun laws in the USA outside of Washington DC.

#21 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-11-15 01:16 PM | Reply

You forgot the state registry for pistols and long arms. They have that too.

#22 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-15 01:24 PM | Reply

Yet. Guns are still legal.

Banning gun accessories, mods, types.... won't stop gun deaths.

But it can help limit it to three rather than 50.

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-15 01:43 PM | Reply

California has weapon seizure laws specifically for cases like this. Law enforcement didn't enforce it, despite being called on the guy several times.

#24 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-15 02:27 PM | Reply

California has weapon seizure laws specifically for cases like this. Law enforcement didn't enforce it, despite being called on the guy several times.

#24 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

So, in this case, laws existed that might have prevented this from happening, but they weren't properly enforced. But yeah, let's just ban guns altogether.

#25 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-15 02:50 PM | Reply

"But yeah, let's just ban guns altogether."

It's the only thing that has been shown to work, here on planet earth.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-15 03:43 PM | Reply

Except in Mexico. Must be because they're brown. It totally works on white people.

#27 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-15 05:30 PM | Reply

I didn't say it always works.
Heck, it might not work here.
Never know until we try.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-15 05:35 PM | Reply

If you have another thing that works, let's hear it.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-15 05:36 PM | Reply

Well we know it won't work here simply based on the non-compliance rate for New York, California, all of Western Europe, and far more glaring examples like Mexico. Even in Australia the non-compliance rate is massive. You can see the rates for yourself on the Small Arms Survey (which is anti-small arms proliferation) run out of Switzerland. We also know that areas flat out awash in guns like Eastern Europe don't really have mass shootings (they have organized political warfare instead).

#30 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-15 06:02 PM | Reply

"We also know that areas flat out awash in guns like Eastern Europe don't really have mass shootings"

Any guesses as to why?

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-15 06:44 PM | Reply

"Even in Australia the non-compliance rate is massive."

Australia hasn't had a mass shooting since they did their gun ban.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-15 06:45 PM | Reply

Well we know it won't work here...

Because this is America.

Land of Brave and Home of the Free.

And where Nothing Can Be Done.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-15 07:27 PM | Reply

#33 | Posted by donnerboy
Today 20 plus Americans were killed by illegal aliens. What are you doing about that? Nothing.

#34 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-11-15 08:16 PM | Reply

Today 20 plus Americans were killed by illegal aliens.

Illegal aliens?

You should contact the MIB, they'll deport those aliens back to their home planets.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-15 08:18 PM | Reply

Australia hasn't had a mass shooting since they did their gun ban.

Yea. But even if one person dies from gun inflicted injuries per century, then it proves gun bans don't work.

THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO!!

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-15 08:20 PM | Reply

"Today 20 plus Americans were killed by illegal aliens." - #34 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-11-15 08:16 PM

When all you have are lies then lying's all you can do.

#37 | Posted by Hans at 2017-11-15 09:12 PM | Reply

Australia hasn't had a mass shooting since they did their gun ban.

#32 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2017-11-15 06:45 PM | FLAG:

Not true. They've had a mass shooting in 1997, 1999, 2014. They've also had a string of mass killings through arson, and they just got iirc their first vehicle based mass killing. Lower rate of mass shootings, but also 13x less population and 100x lower population density.

#38 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-16 07:41 AM | Reply

Australia hasn't had a mass shooting since they did their gun ban. - #32 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-15 06:45 PM

That is untrue.
Monash University: A "student shot his classmates and teacher, killing two and injuring five"
2011 Hectorville siege: "shot four people, killing three and severely wounding one. An eight-hour stand-off with police followed, during which time he shot and wounded two officers"

The NY times, gunviolencearchive.org, shootingtracker.com, CBS News, etc all defined a mass shooting as shootings that left four or more people wounded or dead.

I didn't feel the need to research further to disprove your statement. I'm sure you can do so, though.

#39 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-11-16 10:11 AM | Reply

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