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Monday, November 13, 2017

The playing of the Star-Spangled Banner is so familiar and perfunctory a trapping of sporting events in the United States that few Americans even bothered to consider what it means and why it's a tradition until last year when Colin Kaepernick chose to take a knee in protest of police violence and racial inequality. ... But how did a song about the War of 1812 that wasn't even adopted as the national anthem until the 1930s become so indelibly bound to the American sporting experience? It didn't happen overnight.

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The bombastic pre-game spectacles of patriotism that had become commonplace at NFL games began to make sense in 2015, after a report by Republican senators John McCain and Jeff Flake revealed the Department of Defense had spread $6.8m of taxpayer money among more than 50 professional teams across the NFL, NBA, MLB, MLS and Nascar. In return, the teams promised organized displays of national pride including the honoring of members of the armed forces, surprise military homecomings and on-field color guard and reenlistment ceremonies. The co-opting of America's most popular institutions as recruiting tools went by an easy-to-remember name: paid patriotism.

"Americans deserve the ability to assume that tributes for our men and women in military uniform are genuine displays of national pride, which many are, rather than taxpayer-funded DOD marketing gimmicks," the 145-page report said.

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Conservatives can't discuss this because taking a knee during a commercial isn't nearly as offensive.

#1 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-11-13 12:21 PM | Reply

"the Department of Defense had spread $6.8m of taxpayer money among more than 50 professional teams across the NFL, NBA, MLB, MLS and Nascar."

You'd think every Libertarian would take a knee over this...

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-13 12:47 PM | Reply

Yeah, all those libertarians in power and their wasteful government spending. Damn them!

#3 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-13 01:10 PM | Reply

Duh.

There is ZERO reason for the anthem to be played at sporting events at all.

They're not government functions. They're not military functions. They are entertainment functions run by private corporations.

It would be equally ridiculous for the crowd to all have to stand for the anthem before the next star wars movie.

But because we've all grown up with the anthem at sports games, we don't question it.
This is called brainwashing.

The NFL brought this all on themselves. They involved politics by choosing to wrap themselves in the flag.

Stop --------- the military and waving the flag and just stick to sports, and the problem will be solved.

#4 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-11-13 01:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

They're allowed to sell marketing. Don't like it, don't watch. The military will always have a marketing department, and there will always be a military.

#5 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-13 01:19 PM | Reply

If the right didn't hold this nation back, we wouldn't have to force people to stand for the anthem as people would love this country for its values and actions.

#6 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-11-13 01:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They're allowed to sell marketing. Don't like it, don't watch. The military will always have a marketing department, and there will always be a military.

#5 | Posted by sitzkrieg

So you admit it's all marketing. Good. There's no reason anyone should stand and salute MARKETING, and no reason to get mad at someone to refuse to stand for MARKETING.

#7 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-11-13 01:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Admit? I could have told you this years ago if you had asked. All big money pro sports are marketing vehicles to sell advertisements and merchandise. Nobody cared until a dude took a knee. That's the only part that blows my mind.

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-13 01:38 PM | Reply

Admit? I could have told you this years ago if you had asked. All big money pro sports are marketing vehicles to sell advertisements and merchandise. Nobody cared until a dude took a knee. That's the only part that blows my mind.

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Conservatives are the ones losing their mind over this. Maybe you should reconsider the people you choose to support.

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-11-13 01:42 PM | Reply

Conservatives are the ones losing their mind over this. Maybe you should reconsider the people you choose to support.

#9 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2017-11-13 01:42 PM | FLAG:

There is ZERO reason for the anthem to be played at sporting events at all.

#4 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2017-11-13 01:17 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

People are losing their minds over different aspects of the same thing. You're all stupid for watching football.

#10 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-13 01:51 PM | Reply

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Maybe you should reconsider the people you choose to support.

#9 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2017-11-13 01:42 PM | REPLY

Also, lol. If you voted for Obama, you voted for this military spending. The Conservatives thank you for your support.

I did not. I'm way too liberal for that.

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-13 01:53 PM | Reply

People are losing their minds over different aspects of the same thing. You're all stupid for watching football.

#10 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Kneeling during the anthem isn't "losing your mind"

Conservatives are the ones throwing tantrums. YOu're stupid for supporting a party who would focus on something so childish and inconsequential, when there's a mental patient with nukes in the white house.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-11-13 01:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Also, lol. If you voted for Obama, you voted for this military spending. The Conservatives thank you for your support.

I did not. I'm way too liberal for that.

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Because mccain or romney would have slashed military spending?

They would have spend MORE on the military, PLUS denied climate change.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-11-13 01:58 PM | Reply

Those weren't your only options. I know, you're not liberal enough to vote for one, but one day you could be.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-13 02:14 PM | Reply

The whole culture of superficial patriotism annoys the crap out of me to the point where I have no patience anymore. Lately if someone tries to complain about NFL players to me I just tell them that I can't take their concern seriously and if they feign further offense I laugh.

If people want to be manipulated in the dumbest way possible that is their problem. The same people who would scream bloody murder if their taxes were raised to pay for veterans' care like to use the military as cover for perusing their petty grudges and I'm not playing along.

#15 | Posted by Sully at 2017-11-13 02:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Thank You For Your Service"
Last weeks Curb was hilarious.

#16 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2017-11-13 02:39 PM | Reply

"Thank you for your service" even seems obnoxious to me. Nobody is joining the military in order to provide me a service. People have their own reasons. Real consideration involves using the military judiciously and fully treating any conditions that arise from having served. Thanking them for their service just makes them seem like waiters I am too cheap to tip.

#17 | Posted by Sully at 2017-11-13 03:04 PM | Reply

Thank you for finding a way for Uncle Sam to pay your college tuition.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-13 03:16 PM | Reply

Those weren't your only options. I know, you're not liberal enough to vote for one, but one day you could be.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg

If you're in a swing state and you're not a moron, those were your only two options.

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-11-13 05:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If you're in a swing state and you're not a moron, those were your only two options.

#19 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2017-11-13 05:45 PM | REPLY

Cognitive dissonance. Cling to it, otherwise you'll have to look at yourself in the mirror and think about what you really vote for.

#20 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-14 07:12 AM | Reply

Sitz is administering the purity test. Kudzu does it better. He starts by saying there's not a single real liberal in America.

#21 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-11-14 08:19 AM | Reply

You can maybe one-up Kudzu by saying which body parts you've sent to Vermont as a tribute to the real liberals.

#22 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-11-14 08:20 AM | Reply

Or you could try and help build a progressive movement.

#23 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-11-14 08:21 AM | Reply

By convincing others to join.

#24 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-11-14 08:21 AM | Reply

"Those weren't your only options. I know, you're not liberal enough to vote for one, but one day you could be."

Hilarious. Pretending that voting for Jill Stein was a viable option and that it wasn't just wasting your vote. We see huge tax cuts for the 1% on the horizon with immense cuts in Medicaid and Medicare which no one can even pretend would be viable with Hillary Clinton in the WH. Real people will suffer real consequences because idiots voted symbolically for someone no better than Hillary Clinton anyway. Hey, I hope Jill enjoyed her dinner with Putin. I'd be embarrassed to admit I voted for that traitorous woman.

#25 | Posted by danni at 2017-11-14 08:40 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"By convincing others to join."

Bruce, that doesn't give them the ego massage that bragging about voting third party does. That's all that is really important to such pretentious posers.

#26 | Posted by danni at 2017-11-14 08:41 AM | Reply

In fact, that leads me to my idea for today. When pretentious posers identify as "independents," etc. I will only identify them, in the future, as pretentious posers because that is really what they are. It is left to us Democrats to fight the battle against Republicans who want to destroy the entire social safety net, cut taxes on the 1%, increase military spending and screw everyone else. We are, at long last, the adults in the room.

#27 | Posted by danni at 2017-11-14 08:44 AM | Reply

Sitz is administering the purity test. Kudzu does it better. He starts by saying there's not a single real liberal in America.

#21 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER AT 2017-11-14 08:19 AM | FLAG:

Plenty of real liberals. They're just not in power. People are stuck on two team tribalism, just look at how brainwashed Danni & Speaks are. They think the world will end if they don't vote for one of the two conservative parties.

#28 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-14 10:25 AM | Reply

#28 I have been saying, in one form or another, that I fully support the idea of building a party that supports you agenda (I have no way to know what that is - is it Bernie? Stein?).

I believe the only way to do that is to literally put in the time and effort to build that party. Find people who think alike, build the infrastructure that makes parties successful (like the DNC or RNC) and then start making the argument that the new party can get the work done to change society.

Simply tearing down the DNC makes the RNC stronger. If anything, there is a chance here to use the DNC as a starting point and recruit more progressive people into what is really a centrist party, pushing it left.

After Bernie's run in 2016, the DNC was poised to move even more left. Hillary took his policy positions and shaped her own to be more left. More Bernie folks were in the party than ever. But then Bernie took his ball and went home. His supporters turned their anger to the party instead of him. Just when the Hillary folks were listening, the "true liberals" turned their anger toward them (and still are doing this).

I feel like I'm watching a couple out on a date, with the guy yelling at the girl for not parking right.

#29 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-11-14 10:33 AM | Reply

They think the world will end if they don't vote for one of the two conservative parties.

#28 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG AT 2017-11-14 10:25 AM

A vote for a third party is a vote for whoever wins.

Trump didn't have to convince people to vote for him. All he had to do was convince people not to vote for Hillary

#30 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-11-14 10:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Lying about how voting works is a waste of all our time. Just so you know.

#31 | Posted by Sully at 2017-11-14 12:11 PM | Reply

I've always liked the raising of the flags and anthem at the Olympics. Is this something new? Seems they've done this as long as I remember. Do other countries have heartburn over the tradition?

As far as the NFL, I couldn't care less. You don't even see it if you're not at the game – unless some network is trying to make a point out of it. They are showing beer and truck commercials while the anthem is playing.

#32 | Posted by JimDuncan at 2017-11-14 02:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The on,y time it's appropriate to kneel during the anthem is if Rene Rancourt is performing it.
Fact!

#33 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2017-11-14 03:03 PM | Reply

The thing that makes me laugh is when a bunch of hillbillies with confederate flags on their trucks wearing the flag as clothing (which is a violation of flag etiquette) try to tell me I'm less patriotic than them.

They cheer when the flag is held horizontally on the field when in truth the only time it is permissible to display the flag horizontally is when it is draped over the coffin of a serviceman.

Most of them sat in their couches or used the time to make a trip to the bathroom before Kaepernick asked them to notice that police are killing people at an alarming rate.

#34 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-11-14 03:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

1945: NFL commissioner Elmer Layden said, "The playing of the national anthem should be as much a part of every game as the kickoff. We must not drop it simply because the war is over. We should never forget what it stands for."

#35 | Posted by homerj at 2017-11-14 06:52 PM | Reply

We should never forget what it stands for."

Agreed, but we don't need that to take place on the sports field, do we? Seems to me that's a false dichotomy; we got along perfectly well without it.

#36 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2017-11-14 07:02 PM | Reply

"The playing of the national anthem should be as much a part of every game as the kickoff."

The kickoff has been tweaked to make it less dangerous.

Maybe someday the national anthem will be tweaked to make it less racist.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-14 07:10 PM | Reply

#34 | Posted by hatter5183
How about a bunch of illegal aliens flying a Mexican flag over an upside down American flag. Does that make you laugh too?

#38 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-11-14 08:43 PM | Reply

How about a bunch of illegal aliens flying a Mexican flag over an upside down American flag. Does that make you laugh too?

#38 | POSTED BY FEDERALIST AT 2017-11-14 08:43 PM |

Are they pretending to be more patriotic Americans than me?

#39 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-11-15 10:22 AM | Reply

Liberals are so dense when it comes to trying to use logic. Don't worry, Reps have their dense areas as well, of course. But this is what happens every time Liberals are on one side of an issue. They completely ignore that millions of people are being offended because they don't agree. Yet, once there is an issue that millions of Liberals are offended by, oh boy...everybody watch out because there will be a whirlwind of political turmoil cascading all over media, social media, streets, etc.

What both sides fail to do is recognize that there has to be a cutoff for issues. It doesn't matter what the topic is, if it is offending millions of people as a social issue then it is not up to you to decide if them being offended is right or wrong. Liberals have taught us that over the past few decades and it's a very good lesson. So why don't you follow it now? Stop focusing on whether or not being offended is right or wrong. Just acknowledge tens of millions of people are offended by it and move on. That's EXACTLY what Liberals are doing in regards to forcing society to accept homosexuality, bathroom rights, abortion, and the list goes on for miles. You made your case and you are right, trying to put a right or wrong to why someone is offended is the worst way to take care of these issues. So listen to your own arguments for once.

#40 | Posted by humtake at 2017-11-15 12:33 PM | Reply

#40 why should anyone care what hypocrites choose to be offended by? If you are at a Trump rally like those dopes in Alabama after what he said about POWs and then turn around and whine about NFL players not respecting those who served: You are a giant hypocritical baby.

Just because people whine about something doesn't make it wrong.

You and the rest of the hypocritical drama queens can shove your offense up your "millions" of asses for all I care.

#41 | Posted by Sully at 2017-11-15 12:45 PM | Reply

A vote for a third party is a vote for whoever wins.

#30 | POSTED BY HATTER5183 AT 2017-11-14 10:58 AM | FLAG:

Zero sum politics is a false premise. A vote for the third party is a vote for the third party. That's it.

It's always people that just lost who think it's a vote for the team that won.

#42 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-15 01:36 PM | Reply

Re #42 - people who lie about the workings of basic arithmetic can't be reasoned with. It isn't an honest mistake. They are intentionally lying in support of a broken way of doing things in order to excuse their own irrational behavior.

#43 | Posted by Sully at 2017-11-15 02:03 PM | Reply

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