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Saturday, November 11, 2017

Zach Weissmueller, Reason: Silicon Valley firms are building surveillance and profiling tools to help government agents make sense of the massive amount of information available on social media and in publicly accessible data sets. Are they using cutting-edge technologies to keep Americans safe, or laying the groundwork for a police state? ... Edward Hasbrouck of the nonprofit Identity Project says this technology enables the government to violate civil liberties without necessary checks on its power. He compares it to the Berlin Wall. "By building checkpoints -- by building the control mechanisms," Hasbrouck says, "we're already putting into place the infrastructure for those who will abuse them in the future."





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Yes it is .... but Progressives, SJW type shouldn't be worried ... it your tool for oppression .......

#1 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-11-11 11:10 PM | Reply

With the tech we have now, the power of the surveillance state has become a reality, not an Orwellian nightmare. Still it has limitations. It still takes an individual to make a decision. Plus it requires an armed force to take action of any consequence. The individuals who would enact a police state can just as easily become a target of the same mechanisms. In the near future I am certain passive surveillance could track you in every activity outside your home, but the mountain of data has to be accessed and digested by someone. Face it, he vast majority of us are not that interesting. Will we use AI to find and identify criminals in the near future? Probity, then we can worry about being arrested for counter revolutionary thought or Un-American activities. Those with power ALWAYS seek to increase their power by any means available.

#2 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-11-12 12:05 AM | Reply

#1 - I am pretty sure it was the conservative mantra of "If you didn't do anything wrong you don't have anything to worry about" when it came to things like racial profiling and surveillance after 911. It's funny how republicans are against surveillance as soon as they think they might be the ones being watched.

#3 | Posted by schmanch at 2017-11-12 08:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Hours after 9-11 data manipulators identified 14 of the 19 hi-jackers. But their predictive skills are lacking.

Tired of Kafkaesque treatment of people, where vague allegations are made and actions are taken against individuals and organizations? Then get rid of conservative Republicans like Bush/Cheney/Trump/Sessions.

The singer formerly known as Cat Stevens was making his way back to London Wednesday after being taken off a diverted trans-Atlantic flight by U.S. officials. September 2004 a planeload of passengers on United Airlines Flight 919 from London to Washington was diverted to Maine when it was discovered that the singer songwriter of "Peace Train" was on board. Stupid Conservatives, working diligently to allegedly make America safe and great again.

A No Fly List was created and maintained by the United States Terrorist Screening Center (TSC). It consists of people prohibited from boarding commercial aircraft for travel within, into, or out of the United States. There were 16,000 names on the list in 2011, 21,000 in 2012, and 47,000 in 2013.

There is also a Terrorist Watch List, a ridiculously long list of people with some alleged connection to terrorism. As of June 2016, the Terrorist Watch List is estimated to contain 1,877,133 individuals. But none of the white men engaged in mass shootings.

While Social Justice Warriors might censure you, Conservative chickenhawks have arrested people without charges for decades, tortured and killed innocent people in their wanton desire for power and money. Stupid vicious conservatives even put former Senator Edward Kennedy on their insane list.

#4 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-11-12 08:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Sometimes I try to read an article from "Reason" but then my gag reflex acts up. What garbage. When I want crazy I'll just ask for crazy.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2017-11-12 09:43 AM | Reply


Has been for twenty years.

I guess people who aren't "tech savvy" don't quite grasp how Uncle Sam took concerted steps to pwn the Net starting in the Clinton years.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-12 12:17 PM | Reply

In exchange for their own techno-libertarian nerd state.

#7 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-11-12 12:29 PM | Reply

Andy, you are either a bot, or a clueless rube.

#8 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-11-12 01:37 PM | Reply

Yes it is .... but Progressives, SJW type shouldn't be worried ... it your tool for oppression .......



Do you honestly believe the crap you post or are you usually just trying to troll a bit?

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2017-11-12 03:09 PM | Reply

Couldn't be as the majority of Silicon Valley businesses are owned and run by libs, and libs would never want a bigger more powerful government telling people how to live....... only control freaks would want that - OOPS!

#10 | Posted by MSgt at 2017-11-12 03:17 PM | Reply



#11 | Posted by jpw at 2017-11-12 03:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4 | Posted by bayviking Steven Georgiou, Cat Stevens, or Yusuf Islam was on the watch list because he attended a Mosque known to host extremist Imams, primarily because the Brits had him under subservience also. You might remember he met with Saddam immediately before the first gulf war on a self appointed peace mission- he was naive enough to believe that Saddam was actually a Muslim.
Teddy was considered an asset by the KGB, as this was exposed after the Soviet Union collapsed, I do not know if he was an active agent, or just an idiot who wasn't careful about what he talked about when he was drunk, which was a majority of the time especially late in his life, from what I have read.
As far as torturing and killing people, Americans are such pikers at it, we usually have to use third parties. Besides, torture as I was taught before the mid-east wars, isn't particularly effective. If the individual is weak, he will tell you any thing he thinks you want to hear to get you to stop. If he is average, he will lie. If he is strong, you will kill him before he gives up anything. We have had much better luck with drugs. Ask your anesthesiologist. We have more effective drugs than sodium penathal, that was 70 years ago.

#12 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-11-13 01:37 AM | Reply

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