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Thursday, November 09, 2017

President Donald Trump will get crushed by any Democrat running against him in the 2020 presidential election, a poll released Thursday indicated. Asked whether they would vote for Trump or a hypothetical Democratic candidate in the next election, just 36 percent in the Politico/Morning Consult poll said they would vote to give the president a second term. That compared with 46 percent who indicated they would vote for Trump's Democratic opponent, whoever that may be. A further 18 percent said they remained undecided. The poll, conducted on the eve of the anniversary of the 2016 election, offers further bad news for Trump: Eight percent of those who voted for him a year ago said they would support a Democrat in 2020.

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Indeed, Democrats appear to be more steadfast in backing someone from their own party than Republicans when it comes to Trump. Eighty-four percent of Democrats said they would vote for the candidate from their own party in 2020, compared with 74 percent who said they would support the current Republican president.

Among independents, there is a similarly clear gulf. Thirty percent said they would vote for Trump, while 40 percent stated that a Democrat would get their backing.

The results should not be surprising, given Trump has faced record low approval ratings for a president so early into his time in office.

His current approval rating with Gallup stands at 38 percent, with 55 percent disapproving of the Republican's job as president.

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#1 | Posted by Corky at 2017-11-09 02:41 PM | Reply

Awfully early to put any stock in a poll like this, especially considering that Politico/Morning Consult predicted the following:

2015: Hillary Clinton would win the Presidency in 2016
2015: Jeb Bush would be the GOP nominee
2016: Texas would become a Blue State
2016: Hillary Clinton would win the Presidency in 2016 in a landslide

#2 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-11-09 02:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Awfully early to put any stock in a poll like this, especially considering that Politico/Morning Consult predicted the following:
2015: Hillary Clinton would win the Presidency in 2016
2015: Jeb Bush would be the GOP nominee
2016: Texas would become a Blue State
2016: Hillary Clinton would win the Presidency in 2016 in a landslide

#2 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

I'm not sure you understand how polling works...or that the national polls were pretty much dead on about Clinton v. Trump's vote totals....

#3 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-11-09 02:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Any Dem? So Hillary not required. Good to know.

#4 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-09 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#2

I completely understand, you seem to be completely missing my point.

#5 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-11-09 03:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

#2
I completely understand, you seem to be completely missing my point.

#5 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

No, its pretty evident you don't...

#6 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-11-09 04:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

President Donald Trump will get crushed by any Democrat running against him in the 2020 presidential election, a poll released Thursday indicated.

That is the same thing they said in 2015. How did that work for you?

#8 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-11-09 05:49 PM | Reply

I'm not sure you understand how polling works...or that the national polls were pretty much dead on about Clinton v. Trump's vote totals....

#3 | Posted by Sycophant

He carried 30 states and she only got 20. Great poll.

#9 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-11-09 05:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

that the national polls were pretty much dead on about Clinton v. Trump's vote total

Which was meaningless. The only national poll that got it right was the LA Times/USC Dornsife poll, which predicted that Hillary would get a slight electoral vote win (approximately 2%) but that Trump would win the EC.

As I said earlier, it is way too early to put stock in any poll, much less one about the 2020 election.

#10 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-11-09 06:17 PM | Reply

I'm literally flashing back to 2016.

When everyone was convinced Texas and Arizona would go blue.

This type of poll is misleading and detrimental.

Perhaps if everyone wasn't so convinced Hillary would win, more people would have gone to vote.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-09 06:30 PM | Reply

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Perhaps if everyone wasn't so convinced Hillary would win, more people would have gone to vote.

#11 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2017-11-09 06:30 PM

Agreed, which is why polls like this one are dangerous. If people feel an election is locked up, they won't bother to vote (or work to get out the vote, in Hillary's case.) Hubris can be very dangerous.

#12 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-11-09 06:52 PM | Reply

Sure, but what if the Dem candidate had sent emails ... and a vagina?

#13 | Posted by censored at 2017-11-09 08:06 PM | Reply

#13

Not sure how someone would send "emails...and a vagina".

Uterine Parcel Service?

#14 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-11-09 08:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

These polls are snapshots of current sentiment the public has about Trump. And the odds are Trump will only make it worse as times goes on, as he has since he was elected.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2017-11-09 09:15 PM | Reply

Which was meaningless.

The only point of a national poll is to predict the national popular vote, dude. The fact the pollsters were close to the actual vote shows that they weren't all wrong in 2016, despite what the yammering yahoos never tire of saying.

If people feel an election is locked up, they won't bother to vote ...

I don't think there's any danger that a poll taken in 2017 is going to make people think the 2020 election is already locked up.

But Trump should be locked up.

#16 | Posted by rcade at 2017-11-09 10:19 PM | Reply

The only point of a national poll is to predict the national popular vote, dude....

#16 | POSTED BY RCADE 2017-11-09 10:19 PM

This far out?

This poll is meaningless.

#17 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-09 10:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

This poll is meaningless.
#17 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Indeed. We see this same poll all the time. The hypothetical Democrat or Republican (depending on who's in office) that we can acribe our own thoughts and beliefs to, wins the poll, how could the hypothetical person not? Now as soon as the person is no longer hypothetical the poll will change considerably...

#18 | Posted by TXLIBERTARIAN at 2017-11-10 02:09 AM | Reply

Polls are meaningless.

If 2016 didn't convince you of this.

Nothing will.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-10 02:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't think there's any danger that a poll taken in 2017 is going to make people think the 2020 election is already locked up.

True. If no other polls came out, ever.

But.

This is the first of many polls. Telling us how defeated Trump is. He's so crushed. He's done.

Emboldening his supporters to go vote, and giving people on the fence about whether or not to vote an excuse for why they don't really need to.

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-11-10 02:33 AM | Reply

#20 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

There is truth in this.

#21 | Posted by memyselfini at 2017-11-10 03:44 AM | Reply

I'm only commenting here to say that a poll this far out isn't worth commenting on.

#22 | Posted by danni at 2017-11-10 08:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Spin. Spin. Spin.

This is why you are the anti-science party. You don't understand how climate and weather works, so you just say global warming must not be happening. You don't understand how statistics and polling works, so you just say they are all wrong.

Face it. The polls were pretty accurate until Comey threw his hand grenade into the race. Yet your orange idol still lost the national popular vote. People talk alot about Russia, but Russia had a very limited influence. The real kingmaker was Comey.

This is what happens when one of the parties completely shirks their responsibility to nominate a sane candidate capable of handling the job of President of the United States. Random events can happen that allow their idiot to actually get elected.

And their irresponsibility becomes obvious when they spend the next year (and will probably spend the next 3 years if their idiot lasts that long) talking more about their opponent who lost (Hillary) than their idiot they supported who won and IS ACTUALLY the President of the United States.

#23 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2017-11-10 09:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Prediction: Trump will not run in 2020.

#24 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2017-11-10 09:55 AM | Reply

fret not... last time a socialist was almost the demo candidate and a demo was the repub candidate. America is shifting left. the hardcore left will be here soon enough and not even bother to hide their Sanger-inspired lunacy of crack pot theories that have only failed where ever they were tried. you will get to retire just in time to be euthanized by the snowflake generation as your healthcare had to be terminated to finance their unpaid students loans. enjoy the ride...

#25 | Posted by visiter at 2017-11-10 11:36 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

This far out? This poll is meaningless.

No one is forcing you to discuss it.

It's a snapshot of how Trump is doing. I think the fact he's sinking like a stone is worth consideration.

#26 | Posted by rcade at 2017-11-10 11:47 AM | Reply

It's a snapshot of how Trump is doing. I think the fact he's sinking like a stone is worth consideration.

#26 | POSTED BY RCADE

The entire Republican party is sinking like a stone. Roy Moore is dragging them down ever further.

#27 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-11-10 02:34 PM | Reply

#23 | Posted by gtbritishskull

Wow, the Hillary didn't win butthurt is strong with this one.

#28 | Posted by boaz at 2017-11-10 09:09 PM | Reply

As I said earlier, it is way too early to put stock in any poll, much less one about the 2020 election.

#10 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Indeed.

Three years is a long time for the Dems to push bad enough policy to make Trump seem palatable enough to risk voting for again.

#29 | Posted by jpw at 2017-11-11 12:47 PM | Reply

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