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Thursday, November 09, 2017

President Trump said this morning that he and President Xi of China could solve all the world's problems. "I look forward to many years success and friendship, working together to solve not only our problems but world problems," he said after a lavish reception in Beijing. "I believe we can solve almost all of them, probably all of them."

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I thought donnie dealbreaker alone could fix it..

#1 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-11-09 07:25 AM | Reply

The only thing Donny Doll Hands has proven he can solve is how to blow $78,000,000 of tax payer money on golf so far.

#2 | Posted by 726 at 2017-11-09 07:38 AM | Reply

"I look forward to many years success and friendship, working together to solve not only our problems but world problems," he said after a lavish reception in Beijing."

The most recent American election makes his "many years" look pretty doubtful. Thankfully.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2017-11-09 08:48 AM | Reply

Why do I have a sinking feeling Donald just sold us out to the Chinese?

#4 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-11-09 09:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Whoa there Skippy.

#5 | Posted by fresno500 at 2017-11-09 09:13 AM | Reply

I thought donnie dealbreaker alone could fix it..
#1 | POSTED BY MRSILENCEDOGOOD

Someone has to buy our entitlement debt ....

#6 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-11-09 09:43 AM | Reply

Xi is too clever, and he knows how to handle Trumpkin Day Care. He does all the Pom pom and no substance, makes our commander in Chief feel he done a wonderful deals...

#7 | Posted by material07310 at 2017-11-09 09:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Someone has to buy our entitlement debt ....

#6 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

I worry about the mental stability of some of you.

Look,,,

There is lying, and then there is calling the truth a lie.

That's deeper than just lying.

#8 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-11-09 09:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Logically that means Xi alone can solve all the world's problems as we know trump is useless.

#9 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-11-09 10:07 AM | Reply

"Someone has to buy our entitlement debt ...."

You say that as Republicans propose tax cuts for the rich which will cost 1.7 trillion dollars.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2017-11-09 10:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

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"To Trump, the cause of, and impediment to solutions of all of life's problems!"

Apologies to Homer J. Simpson

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-11-09 10:12 AM | Reply

The beautiful chocolate cake must have been super wonderful. And laced with a dash of ecstasy.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-09 10:15 AM | Reply

Someone has to buy our entitlement debt ....
#6 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Not to mention the trillions of dollars Trump needs to give the 1%ers in his so-called "tax cut".

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-09 10:20 AM | Reply

Someone has to buy our entitlement debt ....

#6 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

You mean the military spending debt?

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-11-09 10:29 AM | Reply

Trump to fix things? Pffft. I'm surprised he can find his way to the crapper to send out another stupid tweet.

What's he going to do when China tells him the biggest threat to American jobs isn't Chinese factories but automation? That's not an easy fix for any world leader.

#15 | Posted by cbob at 2017-11-09 11:11 AM | Reply

You say that as Republicans propose tax cuts for the rich which will cost 1.7 trillion dollars.
#10 | Posted by Danni

That's easy, cut 1.7 trillion of entitlement spending. Oh that's right, you democrats never think of giving the taxpayer their money back...

#16 | Posted by boaz at 2017-11-09 11:18 AM | Reply

That's easy, cut 1.7 trillion of entitlement spending. Oh that's right, you democrats never think of giving the taxpayer their money back...

#16 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2017-11-09 11:18 AM | FLAG: doesn't actually pay taxes..

#17 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-11-09 11:36 AM | Reply

Not really a quotable moment. Anyone can solve all of the world's problems. The only hurdles standing in the way of anyone are how much of the world's population do you enslave to your will and how many people will die along the way. Nobody can solve the world's problems if everyone is allowed to have their own thoughts and ideas and are allowed to express them. Take that away and there is nothing stopping someone from doing whatever they want if they have the military power.

#18 | Posted by humtake at 2017-11-09 11:38 AM | Reply

Oh that's right, you democrats never think of giving the taxpayer their money back...

#16 | POSTED BY BOAZ

You Republicans never actually think about paying your own bills.

#19 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2017-11-09 11:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

That's easy, cut 1.7 trillion of entitlement spending. Oh that's right, you democrats never think of giving the taxpayer their money back...

#16 | POSTED BY BOAZ

You mean nearly all of Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid? Yeah, sounds like a fantastic idea.

Or did you mean Welfare? Cut that and don't reduce taxes and in 20 years that $1.7 trillion will be paid off.

Except likely increases costs in criminal justice and health/human services would likely negate the cost savings entirely and actually create a deficit... But since when did details and facts matter to the great Boaz?

#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-11-09 11:42 AM | Reply

Trump: Xi and I Can Solve All World's Problems

Sure. And you have the best memory. And you hire the best people. And health care is going to be so easy and quick to fix...

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-11-09 11:43 AM | Reply

That's easy, cut 1.7 trillion of entitlement spending. Oh that's right, you democrats never think of giving the taxpayer their money back...

#16 | Posted by boaz

Boaz thinks the way to balance the budget is to dump the elderly and sick into the gutters.

The soul of a modern republican is dark. And the brain is stupid.

#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-11-09 11:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

That's easy, cut 1.7 trillion of entitlement spending. Oh that's right, you democrats never think of giving the taxpayer their money back...

Posted by boaz at 2017-11-09 11:18 AM | Reply

Matthew 25:40New International Version (NIV)

40 "The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

#23 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-09 11:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Once again The Dotard gets played on the world stage, this time in front of the most cynical opponent a US President could face. Another 15 minutes of this (or nine holes of golf) and if Xi asked the Dotard would have given him a three way with the tag team of Melania and Ivanka. Weakest performance by a national leader since Neville Chamberlin went to Munich in 1938...

#24 | Posted by catdog at 2017-11-09 12:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That's easy, cut 1.7 trillion of entitlement spending. Oh that's right, you democrats never think of giving the taxpayer their money back...

#16 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2017-11-09 11:18 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Or they could cut that bloated DOD budget. Close a few golf courses. Simple really.

Another genius that thinks the $70 billion in food stamps that go to the elderly and military are the problem, but the $800 BILLION that goes to the DOD is not.

#25 | Posted by 726 at 2017-11-09 12:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Tea Pain‏ @TeaPainUSA

Trump 2016: "China has raped America."
Trump 2017: "I don't blame China for taking advantage of another country."

See? Our mistake was thinkin' Trump saw "rape" as a bad thing.
6:28 AM - 9 Nov 2017

#26 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-11-09 12:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 7

I've seen people blow smoke up other peoples' asses before, but this is Arturo Fuente-level smoke-blowing.

#27 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-11-09 01:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"That's easy, cut 1.7 trillion of entitlement spending." - #16 | Posted by pfc. boaz at 2017-11-09 11:18 AM

Okay, we'll start with your entitlements and go from there.

That's easy.

#28 | Posted by Hans at 2017-11-09 02:23 PM | Reply

#26 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Do you remember when Trump told us how hard he was going to negotiate with China?

God, Republicans are stupid.

#29 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-11-09 02:25 PM | Reply

Tea Pain‏ @TeaPainUSA
Trump 2016: "China has raped America."
Trump 2017: "I don't blame China for taking advantage of another country."
See? Our mistake was thinkin' Trump saw "rape" as a bad thing.

6:28 AM - 9 Nov 2017#26 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2017-11-09 12:54 PM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 3

Out of his element and out of his league, Trump does a role reversal, letting China be the dominant -- the "star" -- while he adopts the submissive persona.

"And when you're a star," he said so famously, "they let you do it. You can do anything. "

#30 | Posted by cbob at 2017-11-09 02:34 PM | Reply

Okay, we'll start with your entitlements and go from there.

What I get isn't an entitlement. It's a earned result of a contract I had with my previous employer.

But you are a democrat, you don't understand the difference between something given and something earned.

#31 | Posted by boaz at 2017-11-10 11:30 AM | Reply

"It's a earned result of a contract I had with my previous employer."

That's called an entitlement.
You are... wait for it... entitled... to those benefits as a result of your contract.

Just like you were entitled to the paychecks you got.

"But you are a democrat, you don't understand the difference between something given and something earned."

Your earnings were first given to Uncle Sam as taxes, then Uncle Sam gave them to you in a paycheck. As a Republican, you think that Uncle Sam created the money or something; that it didn't have to come from people with productive jobs who pay taxes, to end up in your pocket in the first place.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-10 11:36 AM | Reply

You are... wait for it... entitled... to those benefits as a result of your contract.

Is welfare an entitlement?

#33 | Posted by boaz at 2017-11-10 08:02 PM | Reply

Sure. And so is the GI Bill.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-10 08:29 PM | Reply

Is welfare an entitlement?

#33 | POSTED BY BOAZ

What welfare? AFDC ended decades ago. TANF provides no more than 5 years of payments, and you have to either work or train for work. Medicaid? I guess the working poor and children who made the mistake of choosing the wrong parents should just die for lack of medical care.

Just curious; do you ascribe to any religion or believe in any God?

#35 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2017-11-10 11:06 PM | Reply

What I get isn't an entitlement. It's a earned result of a contract I had with my previous employer.

I guess you never heard of the Social Contract defined by the same philosophers who the Founding Fathers referred to when they designed the Constitution (e.g., Hobbes, Locke). Real Conservatives (e.g., John Locke Foundation) generally consider those guys Conservatives. "The organization is concerned primarily with state and local issues. JLF advocates lowering taxes, and encouraging free markets." en.wikipedia.org

So entitlements are based on a contract, just like the benefits you receive from yours.

#36 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2017-11-10 11:17 PM | Reply

#36 | POSTED BY WHODAMAN

You raise some good historical points. But you conflate terms.

The "Social Contract" is voluntary. It's a theoretical construct. It's a concept.

"Entitlements" are FICA programs whereby taxpayers have their wages forcibly taxed and put into a fund in order to receive a stipend much later in life as a means of augmenting retirement savings. It's self-funded to an extent.

The rest is various forms of "welfare". We are talking about food stamps and similar programs where people receive money with very little required in return. These programs are NOT entitlements.

#37 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-10 11:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The rest is various forms of "welfare". We are talking about food stamps and similar programs where people receive money with very little required in return. These programs are NOT entitlements.

Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-10 11:34 PM | Reply

federalsafetynet.com

Entitlement Programs

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Entitlement Programs of the federal government include Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, Unemployment and Welfare Programs. Entitlement programs are rights granted to citizens and certain non-citizens by federal law. Entitlement programs can be broken into non-contributory and contributory programs. Non-contributory programs are free handouts - they equal "something for nothing". Contributory programs must be earned - they equal "something for something".

Non-contributory Programs - Welfare

Welfare Programs include 13 separate programs to fight poverty (see U.S. Welfare Programs) and the Medicaid Program which provides health care to low-income Americans. Welfare Programs and Medicaid are non-contributory, meaning recipients are entitled to the benefits even though they have made no contributions to the programs through taxes. Welfare Programs are targeted to low-income individuals and families. While the programs represent a legal right available to all Americans, the exercise of that right is fully dependent on the level of income of the individual of family. Only low-income Americans qualify for benefits.

#38 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-10 11:40 PM | Reply

Laura,

Whilst I appreciate you providing a primary source, it's propaganda.

Entitlement has a connotation. Medicare, Social Security, Unemployment...those are programs that people pay into that will later receive a benefit assuming certain qualifications are met.

That's not the same as welfare, food stamps, etc. Those are social safety-net programs. Personally, I think they are necessary, but they are NOT entitlements.

#39 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-10 11:47 PM | Reply

That's not the same as welfare, food stamps, etc. Those are social safety-net programs. Personally, I think they are necessary, but they are NOT entitlements.

Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-10 11:47 PM | Reply

Sorry but anyway you slice it they are entitlements.

#40 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-10 11:48 PM | Reply

www.britannica.com

Entitlement, generally, the granting of government assistance to individuals as mandated by law or by need. Recipients of such assistance may be entitled to it by virtue of their status, without otherwise having to qualify for it. In the United States, legally mandated entitlements include Medicare and Medicaid and social security. Needs-based entitlements include unemployment benefits, workers' compensation, and Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC). With passage of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act (PRWORA) in 1996, most needs-based assistance lost entitlement status as federal programs were replaced by state-controlled systems funded by federal block grants. (See also social insurance, welfare.)

#41 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-10 11:50 PM | Reply

www.auburn.edu

Entitlement program

The kind of government program that provides individuals with personal financial benefits (or sometimes special government-provided goods or services) to which an indefinite (but usually rather large) number of potential beneficiaries have a legal right (enforceable in court, if necessary) whenever they meet eligibility conditions that are specified by the standing law that authorizes the program. The beneficiaries of entitlement programs are normally individual citizens or residents, but sometimes organizations such as business corporations, local governments, or even political parties may have similar special "entitlements" under certain programs. The most important examples of entitlement programs at the federal level in the United States would include Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, most Veterans' Administration programs, federal employee and military retirement plans, unemployment compensation, food stamps, and agricultural price support programs.

#42 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-10 11:53 PM | Reply

Laura,

Can we differentiate between a program like SS that is supposed to be self-funded vs a program like food stamps which is designed to be temporary assistance without any expectation of personal funding?

Please?

#43 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-10 11:58 PM | Reply

Can we differentiate between a program like SS that is supposed to be self-funded vs a program like food stamps which is designed to be temporary assistance without any expectation of personal funding?

Please?

Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-10 11:58 PM | Reply

They are both entitlements. You don't like the fact that welfare is considered an entitlement but facts speak for themselves. If you qualify for them you are therefore entitled to them.

#44 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-11 12:01 AM | Reply

My understanding of the term "entitlement" is a government program whereby contributions are coerced up-front (FICA) with a promised benefit once certain age and other qualifications are met.

I never took that term to encompass the entirety of the safety net.

#45 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-11 12:03 AM | Reply

Laura,

Screw the definitions.

Welfare, Food stamps, etc are NOT the same as SS and Medicare. They are structured differently and are funded differently.

Please acknowledge this as it's so obvious.

#46 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-11 12:05 AM | Reply

Screw the definitions.

Welfare, Food stamps, etc are NOT the same as SS and Medicare. They are structured differently and are funded differently.

Please acknowledge this as it's so obvious.

Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-11 12:05 AM | Reply

Then you claim to be a staunch supporter of textualism regarding the constitution. Words have meaning or so you argued when King V Burwell was being argued.

#47 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-11 12:08 AM | Reply

Then you claim to be a staunch supporter of textualism regarding the constitution. Words have meaning or so you argued when King V Burwell was being argued.

#47 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

You are just being combative.

"Entitlement" was something I thought that applied to a type of government program where participation in it was coerced (FICA taxes) and where a benefit was derived much later in life. That's Medicare and SS. Those programs are structured differently than Welfare and food stamps.

#48 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-11 12:22 AM | Reply

"Entitlement" was something I thought that applied to a type of government program where participation in it was coerced (FICA taxes) and where a benefit was derived much later in life. That's Medicare and SS. Those programs are structured differently than Welfare and food stamps.

Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-11 12:22 AM | Reply

Yeah and Boaz thinks he has a one eyed winky when in fact it's just a stinky.

#49 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-11 12:29 AM | Reply

Laura,

SS and Medicare are completely different than Food Stamps.

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Assign whatever term you want to these programs but don't pretend they are the exact same - they are more different than a Crown Vic and a Chevy Caprise.

#50 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-11 12:39 AM | Reply

they are more different than a Crown Vic and a Chevy Caprise.

Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-11 12:39 AM | Reply

Not if you're in the backseat with handcuffs on then they are the same one way ticket to jail

#51 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-11 12:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Welfare, Food stamps, etc are NOT the same as SS and Medicare. They are structured differently and are funded differently"

Yeah and four states aren't really states, they are commonwealths.

It's not a meaningful difference.

Social Security is different in that you have to pay in to get money out, generally speaking. But, at the end of the day, a tax is a tax, and redistribution is redistribution.

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-11 12:49 AM | Reply

Social Security is different than Food Stamps. It just is. If one program is defined as "entitlement" then it's inaccurate to define the other program the same way.

"Entitlement" seems to bother Laura. How about "funded" vs "Unfunded"?

#53 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-11 12:59 AM | Reply

"Screw the definitions."

^
This is how right wingers respond to facts they don't like.

With anger.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-11 01:01 AM | Reply

they are more different than a Crown Vic and a Chevy Caprise.
Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-11 12:39 AM | Reply
Not if you're in the backseat with handcuffs on then they are the same one way ticket to jail

#51 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

Eesh! I hope it wasn't a result of that time you exploded a charcoal grill. Based upon your recitation of what happened it seemed like a rookie mistake coupled with a few beers.

#55 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-11 01:02 AM | Reply

Eesh! I hope it wasn't a result of that time you exploded a charcoal grill. Based upon your recitation of what happened it seemed like a rookie mistake coupled with a few beers.

Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-11 01:02 AM | Reply

I'll be straight up with you. I went the wrong way when I was young and became a petty thief. I stole one thing too many and got caught. Not proud of it It is what it is. It cost me 6 months of my life.

#56 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-11 01:12 AM | Reply

Laura,

You already shared that with me. I was just clowning about your comment about blowing up a charcoal grill by dousing the charcoal with gasoline.

Apologies for inadvertently bringing up a sore subject. I thought your charcoal explosion story was hilarious. That's why I brought it up. I never intended it to be a personal dig.

#57 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-11 01:21 AM | Reply

Apologies for inadvertently bringing up a sore subject. I thought your charcoal explosion story was hilarious. That's why I brought it up. I never intended it to be a personal dig.

Posted by JeffJ at 2017-11-11 01:21 AM | Reply

No worries. It's all good.

#58 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-11 01:25 AM | Reply

Jeff,

I understand "entitlements" now. I guess an entitlement is something that's owed to you.

It just burns me that liberals like Snoofy and Laura put my military pension and other payments to me for my service in the same bucket as welfare or any unearned social safety net thing. It's a false equivalency and they know it.

I guess they are just stupid like that.

#59 | Posted by boaz at 2017-11-11 01:26 AM | Reply

It just burns me that liberals like Snoofy and Laura put my military pension and other payments to me for my service in the same bucket as welfare or any unearned social safety net thing. It's a false equivalency and they know it.

I guess they are just stupid like that.

Posted by boaz at 2017-11-11 01:26 AM | Reply

Damn someone woke up crabby pants.

#60 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-11 02:16 AM | Reply

It just burns me that liberals like Snoofy and Laura put my military pension and other payments to me for my service in the same bucket as welfare or any unearned social safety net thing. It's a false equivalency and they know it.
I guess they are just stupid like that.

#59 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Yeah, it's a damn shame that a nation should deal with its citizens according to their needs rather than placing an economic value on the worth of their lives. It should not be in the business of "ranking" its citizens according to their "worth". Especially in a country whose Constitution requires "equal treatment under the law" like ours does. A nation is not the same thing as a business enterprise. They have entirely different purposes and goals.

BTW, an "entitlement" is any payment required by law. Social programs define who is "entitled" to payments in the statutes that create them.

As for your case, you wouldn't have a pension if not for the "confiscation" (taxes) of my income to pay for it. You claim taxation is theft, but it's OK if it results in payments to you. You don't want to pay taxes to take care of "the least of these", but I don't want to pay taxes to support an out-of-control military empire, either. We don't get a line-item veto.

#61 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2017-11-11 09:19 AM | Reply

"It just burns me that liberals like Snoofy and Laura put my military pension and other payments to me for my service in the same bucket as welfare or any unearned social safety net thing."

Your military pension is your social safety net, you stupid killer.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-11 11:42 AM | Reply

"I never took that term to encompass the entirety of the safety net."

Because you've been conditioned to be triggered by the word "welfare" by right-wing ideologues. But you haven't been conditioned to be triggered by "safety net."

You know what a Welfare Queen is.
You've never heard of a Safety Net Queen before.

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-11-11 12:22 PM | Reply

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