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Wednesday, November 08, 2017

On Tuesday, Maine became the first state in the nation to expand Medicaid through a ballot initiative. Just after 10 p.m., the Associated Press called the race in favor of the measure expanding government health insurance to more than 80,000 low-income residents. Maine now joins the 31 states and the District of Columbia in the Medicaid expansion camp. The campaign succeeded despite the staunch opposition of Gov. Paul LePage (R), who attempted to pressure the Secretary of State to label Medicaid as "welfare" on Tuesday's ballot. Since the passage of the Affordable Care Act in 2010, Maine's state legislature has voted five times to expand Medicaid. Each time, LePage vetoed the measure. Maine's success will likely give a boost to efforts that have already begun in other states -- including Utah and Missouri -- to put Medicaid on the ballot in 2018.

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This is the absolute best news of the evening hands down. Kudos to the citizens of Maine who finally bypassed their governor to help their own neighbors gain access to healthcare supported by all the citizens of Maine.

May this be the first of many more waves of energized citizens having their voices heard in supporting the actual needy instead of just the already privileged greedy.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-11-07 10:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I hope they can make it work.

#2 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-11-07 11:33 PM | Reply

Hot diggity damn.

It's almost like people from coast to coast checked with their local Democratic headquarters and asked them how they can piss donnie dealmaker off on election day.

#winning

#3 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-11-08 06:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

It's almost like people from coast to coast checked with their local Democratic headquarters...

This wasn't any coordinated effort by Democrats, this was pissed off people who watched Trump and Trumpism take their country to places it never should have visited, deciding to get off their butts and make a complete change of direction back toward what this modern nation has always stood for. The energy came from the diverse individuals who ran, their ardent supporters, and the issues which dominated their culture and lives, not just a simplistic unified party banner.

This is why the pre-election post mortem about all the reasons why the Democrats were blowing a golden opportunity dominated the airwaves over the last few days. The punditry wants a narrative that fits their perception of America. The people simply want many of the very policies and norms that Trumpism has tried to take away, minimize or destroy put back in place or heartily improved upon. That is the story of last night and hopefully the story of 2018.

#4 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-11-08 08:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"I hope they can make it work."

It works fine in many other states, there is no reason to think it won't work in Maine. That truly was a pathetic attempt to pretend that expaning Medicaid is a hurdle Maine can't manage along with, of course, the Federal Government. This isn't single payer, this is just plain old Medicaid.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2017-11-08 09:05 AM | Reply

Tony, if there was a Very Newsworthy tag I would have given that post one.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2017-11-08 09:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#6

I only hope that one day very, very soon we'll collectively look back on this last year and say, "We needed Trump to show us what we never want to be ever again."

May this be the ultimate legacy of Trump and Trumpism when it's thrown upon history's trash heap of universally reviled persons and ideals.

#7 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-11-08 09:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I guess when someone else is picking up 62% of the spending its easy to vote for more it ...
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#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-11-08 09:27 AM | Reply

guess when someone else is picking up 62% of the spending its easy to vote for more it ...
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#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-11-08 09:27 AM | Reply

Real tax cuts for middle class. More taxes on the rich. Better economy, better nation.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2017-11-08 09:33 AM | Reply

Waiting on Gov. LePage to start working on squashing this. He has a proven track record of ignoring the will of the people.

#10 | Posted by Sezu at 2017-11-08 09:33 AM | Reply

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Voter autonomy, good for them.

#11 | Posted by fresno500 at 2017-11-08 09:35 AM | Reply

I guess when someone else is picking up 62% of the spending its easy to vote for more it ...

They're a part of We the People who are paying for it Andrea. What's the problem? Are only the wealthy allowed to have taxes directed toward their needs and not every other citizen in America?

You don't deserve this nation because you're wholly ignorant of what it is and what actually makes us great as a society. Hint: It isn't the ability to ignore that every citizen pays myriad taxes each and every day, and that those Americans who have the least see the greatest percentage of their income go towards paying payroll/consumption/use taxes since these taxpayers spend nearly every penny that they receive.

#12 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-11-08 09:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"I guess when someone else is picking up 62% of the spending its easy to vote for more it ."

In that case, you should be for all states expanding Medicaid. As it stands, taxpayers in the states which it didn't expand are paying for the states in which it did.

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-11-08 10:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That is the story of last night and hopefully the story of 2018.

#4 | POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2017-11-08 08:05 AM | FLAG:

So long story short... Trump is the most motivating force the Democrat party has ever had. Sounds like they're screwed when he's gone.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-08 10:46 AM | Reply

So long story short... Trump is the most motivating force the Democrat party has ever had.

No, Trump had nothing to do with what happened in Maine, LePage did. This wasn't a partisan issue, it was the people of Maine bypassing their governor and enacting a law that they want to have for their own citizens, codified through the referendum process. The reason it took a referendum is that the 5 previous times a duly passed bill was placed before their governor, he vetoed the will of the majority and a supermajority didn't exist to override his obstinance.

And wallow in your ignorance proudly. It's Democratic Party moron, but you know that and still show your ass anyway. It's what you do.

#15 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-11-08 10:59 AM | Reply

"This wasn't any coordinated effort by Democrats, this was pissed off people who watched Trump and Trumpism"

"No, Trump had nothing to do with what happened in Maine, LePage did. This wasn't a partisan issue"

#15 | POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2017-11-08 10:59 AM | FLAG:

First, it's because of Trump backlash. 10:40pm

Now, Trump had nothing to do with it. 10:59am.

You managed to make it 12 hours and 19 minutes before completely, wildly contradicting yourself. Congrats, that has to be some kind of record.

#16 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-08 11:24 AM | Reply

Better hope there's a Trump 2.0 in the pipeline to galvanize against.

#17 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-08 11:25 AM | Reply

If you could get your head out of your ass, you might realize what I spoke about in post 1 had ZERO to do with Trump and I mentioned the governor specifically. My response in post 4 had everything to do with Trump/Trumpism because I was responding to a partisan assertion in post 3 which wasn't related to the underlying point of the thread itself.

I haven't contradicted myself, I've pointed out with facts that you're reading comprehensionally challenged.

And no one contradicts that.

#18 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-11-08 11:56 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

Still contradicting yourself. You can't have it both ways. Trump did, or did not, galvanize the people. If you want to stick by the idea he didn't, after saying he did, that's cognitive dissonance.

#19 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-08 12:45 PM | Reply

www.npr.org

Even NPR editorials are quantifying how much Trump had to do with motivating Democrats.

"Almost 6 in 10 Virginia voters said they disapproved of the job Trump was doing (57 percent), according to exit polls, and twice as many people said they were motivated to go to the polls to reject him than those motivated to support him."

Which backs to my point to begin with, when there's no Trump, there's no galvanization. Democrats need a boogeyman that won't disappear in 3 or 7 years, and there is no Trump-2.0 in the works.

#20 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-08 01:14 PM | Reply

"there is no Trump-2.0 in the works."

Not for lack of trying.

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-11-08 01:17 PM | Reply

Anyone know if Jeff Proust is a republican?
-RNC

#22 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2017-11-08 01:23 PM | Reply

Probst...

#23 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2017-11-08 01:24 PM | Reply

So long story short... Trump is the most motivating force the Democrat party has ever had. Sounds like they're screwed when he's gone.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg

And what are repubs going to do when the old white racists die off?
Fox news viewers are dwindling by the day...

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-11-08 01:32 PM | Reply

I guess when someone else is picking up 62% of the spending its easy to vote for more it ...
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#8 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Well since Maine is a blue state, they pay more into the Feds than they get back. So technically they are likely paying for more than their share of it still.

#25 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-11-08 01:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And what are repubs going to do

#24 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2017-11-08 01:32 PM | REPLY

Random guess? Move to the center and collect Hillary donors while the Democrats move left and forfeit their gains.

#26 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-08 01:34 PM | Reply

Really be careful what you wish for, because if the old white people die, social conservatism isn't constraining Republican outreach anymore.

#27 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-08 01:35 PM | Reply

rather, when the old white people die. At the same time the current generation will have gotten older and moved center-right.

#28 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-08 01:36 PM | Reply

Random guess? Move to the center and collect Hillary donors while the Democrats move left and forfeit their gains.

#26 | Posted by sitzkrieg

You think these wackjob trump supporters are going to follow the repubs back to sanity? Keep dreaming.

If repubs move to the center, they lose their base of deplorables.

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-11-08 01:49 PM | Reply

You think these wackjob trump supporters are going to follow the repubs back to sanity? Keep dreaming.
If repubs move to the center, they lose their base of deplorables.

#29 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2017-11-08 01:49 PM | REPLY

Absolutely. They'll vote for anything that's not a Democrat, then bitch about it the entire time and ignore third parties. It's tradition.

#30 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-08 01:55 PM | Reply

#30 | Posted by sitzkrieg

You are wrong on this. The base is what is motivated to vote in the primaries and what they are doing is driving moderate candidates out at the primary level leaving an extremist to vote for in the general election. Nut jobs are now lining up to run. It's happening all over and has been picking up steam since the advent of teahadists. Look in Alabama at judge Roy Moore - if that guy isn't a radical extremist I don't know who is. That's who the GOP is putting up and the polls say that the race is tied. Seriously when was the last time that happened in Alabama?

#31 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-11-08 02:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Probably not. That's what the GOP is doing right now, in the Trump era. The Trump era ends in 3 or 7 years, and I'm speculating well beyond that. As Speaks noted, that base is dying off, and dwindling numbers will accelerate evolution.

#32 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-08 02:48 PM | Reply

Probably not. That's what the GOP is doing right now, in the Trump era. The Trump era ends in 3 or 7 years, and I'm speculating well beyond that. As Speaks noted, that base is dying off, and dwindling numbers will accelerate evolution.

#32 | Posted by sitzkrieg

There are a lot of trump lovers who aren't old though. They are the breitbart crowd. Young conservative ------, who think there is a race war against white poeple. The people with Pepe the frog avatars in the comments section at breitbart.

They're not going to die soon, and they're not going to follow repubs to the center.

The base is going to die, so the GOP will lose some voters automatically. If they move to the center, they lose the breitbart crowd too. If they DONT move to the center, they lose whatever remaining sane republicans are still alive.

Their solution, of course, will be to figure out how to keep people from voting.

#33 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-11-08 03:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'd wager, heavily, on them voting for any Republican put in front of them. The same people that voted for Trump voted for Romney before that. People that kept McConnell in office in 2014 went on to vote Trump. They kept Paul Ryan in 2016 while voting for Trump. They'd vote for my Corgi if I put him in an elephant sweatshirt with an American flag pin over any Democrat. The tribalism of political parties hasn't changed just because Trump was elected.

#34 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-11-08 03:18 PM | Reply

I'd wager, heavily, on them voting for any Republican put in front of them. The same people that voted for Trump voted for Romney before that. People that kept McConnell in office in 2014 went on to vote Trump. They kept Paul Ryan in 2016 while voting for Trump. They'd vote for my Corgi if I put him in an elephant sweatshirt with an American flag pin over any Democrat. The tribalism of political parties hasn't changed just because Trump was elected.

#34 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Maybe some of them. But trump turned out a lot of people who'd given up on the republican party. The anti elitists. I wouldn't count on them continuing to vote repub after trump pardons himself and quits.

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-11-08 03:55 PM | Reply

Looks like Sitz has a severe case of "red ass".
Send ointment his way!

#36 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-11-08 04:49 PM | Reply

www.themainewire.com

Will history repeat itself, financially?

#37 | Posted by Petrous at 2017-11-09 01:00 PM | Reply

Didn't Jimmy Kimmel just convince a bunch of Republicans to sign up for Obamacare by literally explaining the program and calling it Trumpcare?

#38 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-11-09 01:52 PM | Reply

#38 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

Most republicans think they don't need Obamacare because we have the Affordable Care Act.

#39 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-11-09 02:04 PM | Reply

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