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Wednesday, November 01, 2017

Several weeks after Donald Trump secured the Republican presidential nomination, his national campaign co-chairman urged a foreign policy adviser to meet with Russian officials to foster ties with that country's government. "Make the trip, if it is feasible," Sam Clovis wrote in an August email to George Papadopoulos. The email, included in court papers unsealed Monday, shows how an otherwise low-profile adviser has become a focus of the federal probe into possible coordination between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin. Papadopoulos was in contact with several senior Trump campaign aides about his efforts to broker a relationship between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, the court papers show. In addition to Clovis, who now serves as senior White House adviser to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, Papadopoulos wrote to campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and campaign chairman Paul Manafort, the newly released documents show.

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The newly released documents show that while senior Trump officials at times rebuffed or ignored Papadopoulos, they were well aware of his efforts, which went on for months. ...

Trump himself knew of Papadopoulos's claims that he had a pipeline to Moscow: During a March 2016 meeting of the campaign's national security advisers in Washington that Trump attended, Papadopoulos said he had connections that could help arrange a meeting between the then-candidate and Putin.

Papadopoulos's efforts to arrange a meeting with Russian officials began days after he was named to Trump's campaign team and continued for months.

At one point, he emailed Lewandowski "to discuss Russia's interest in hosting Trump. Have been receiving a lot of calls over the last month about Putin wanting to host him and the team when the time is right," according to documents. ...

In a subsequent meeting in April, the professor told Papadopoulos that the Russian government had "dirt" on Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, including thousands of Clinton's emails.

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This is quietly damning stuff. Too bad Trumpites don't pay attention to quiet. Or to someone shouting themselves hoarse

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2017-10-31 08:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He had to go pretty far just to get coffee for Trump.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2017-11-01 07:51 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

According to Trump Papadopolous is a liar. This coming from the most unabashed liar to ever work in the White House. Papadopolous admittedly lied to the FBI but has since come clean after facing charges for doing so. Trump is already also on record praising Papadopolous as an oil and gas consultant on his team. Papadopolous didn't need to broker a relationship between Trump and Putin since they already had and have one. That in itself is not a bad thing since we don't need war with Russia.

Why has our insane clown President ordered WWII nuclear armed B-52 bombers into 24/7 air alert? This is a deliberate and dangerous provocation. Doesn't he realize they can never penetrate Russian airspace?

Why did Pence demand that US missile technicians in South Korea launch immediately without verification of an order to launch. Doesn't he realize false flag attacks plagued the Cold War and but for level headed American and Russian submarine commanders we would no longer be here?

Our country is going off it's rails under Trump/Pence. But you'd never know it from reading the MSM.

#3 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-11-01 08:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That's a tasty nothing burger with collusion sauce.

#4 | Posted by 726 at 2017-11-01 08:34 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

Trump is not helping himself by claiming Papa was a Barista. Always makes me wonder when people rush to dismiss a person they know who's done bad.

#5 | Posted by patron at 2017-11-01 08:40 AM | Reply

Low-level volunteer coffee boy gets a seat at a candidate's meeting of his national security team? Was that to fill out the table for the photo op, or something more? Too bad L'il Jeff Sessions has no recollection of the meeting he also attended...

#6 | Posted by catdog at 2017-11-01 08:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What is amazing about the Trump campaign is that no one had any role in it no one was paid and no one was aware of anything anyone was doing.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-01 10:22 AM | Reply

What is amazing about the Trump campaign is that no one had any role in it no one was paid and no one was aware of anything anyone was doing. - #7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-01 10:22 AM

Based on the streamlined, efficient, competent administration since January, did you really expect the campaign to have been any different?

#8 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-11-01 10:38 AM | Reply

At least we now know there was DEFINITELY collusion.

#9 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-11-01 10:40 AM | Reply

At least we now know there was DEFINITELY collusion. - #9 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-11-01 10:40 AM

What collusion would that be, specifically?
col·lu·sion.[kəˈlo͞oZHən] NOUN
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others
•law: illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially between ostensible opponents in a lawsuit.

#10 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-11-01 11:10 AM | Reply

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#10 | Posted by Avigdore at

My opinion, based on things so far? The Trump campaign provided Russia specific intelligence about voters in key states and then Russia weaponized it on the internet in order to drag Donald across the election line.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2017-11-01 11:32 AM | Reply

Thank-you Zed. That's not an unreasonable opinion. I appreciate you labeling it as an opinion as well. I doubt that the Trump campaign had access to or sufficient competency to provide that information to the Russians. If Russia had it, I feel that they more likely got it when hacking into the DNC's system.

#12 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-11-01 11:39 AM | Reply

Hello Hello Do not blame Trump for all, he does not know anything. He is Day care Student, every bad stuff done by low level non paying Volunteer, no involvement from trump. All good stuff and winning is only done by Trumpkin...

#13 | Posted by material07310 at 2017-11-01 11:57 AM | Reply

Also Zed, the new claims yesterday from Facebook showing ~126million people were subjected to 'Russian propaganda' shoots holes in the weaponization of intelligence in specific places or to specific people. There's an article on the front page about it now.

#14 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-11-01 12:01 PM | Reply

Man with all these Nothing Burgers turning up as something substantial someone needs to open a restaurant to serve them to Trumpites on a platter.

#15 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-11-01 12:04 PM | Reply

turning up as something substantial - #15 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-11-01 12:04 PM
You have any link to something substantial, GalaxiePete?

#16 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-11-01 12:07 PM | Reply

You have any link to something substantial, GalaxiePete?

#16 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE AT 2017-11-01 12:07 PM | FLAG:

You sure are an impatient one! The investigation continues.

The story is unfolding before your eyes. Keep them open.

#17 | Posted by cbob at 2017-11-01 12:31 PM | Reply

@#17 | Posted by cbob at 2017-11-01 12:31 PM
His claim was that 'all these Nothing Burgers [are] turning up as something substantial'...I'm sure he's got some reputable source for that. I just asked that he share. Wouldn't you like to see something substantial turn up?

#18 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-11-01 01:13 PM | Reply

The key, from an investigation standpoint, is not any emails sent by Papadopolus but the responses that he got from Clovis, Lewandowski and Manafort. What is troubling from a proof standpoint is the language "Putin wanting to host him and the team when the time is right," which is too vague to pin down the set up of a meeting during the campaign.

My guess is that Mueller is leaning pretty hard on Clovis, since he seems to be Papa's direct supervisor.

#19 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-11-01 01:42 PM | Reply

What collusion would that be, specifically?
col·lu·sion.[kəˈlo͞oZHən] NOUN
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others
•law: illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially between ostensible opponents in a lawsuit.

#10 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

I think the fact that Trump knew that Russia had emails with "dirt on Hillary" and then publicly asked them to release those emails is pretty good evidence of collusion. The fact that the public didn't know it was actually a two way relationship (didn't know that when he said that he already KNEW that Russia had the emails) would be the "secret" part. But, similar to how candidates collude with superPACs, I am not sure to what extent Trump sending his instructions to Putin as a public announcement will or will not protect him.

#20 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2017-11-01 05:35 PM | Reply

"Also Zed, the new claims yesterday from Facebook showing ~126million people were subjected to 'Russian propaganda' shoots holes in the weaponization of intelligence in specific places or to specific people."

How did you come to that conclusion, Comrade? It was a very sophisticated and multifaceted attack by the GRU, the foreign military intelligence agency.

126 million people were subjected to 'Russian propaganda' AND 39 states election systems were hacked. They infiltrated computer systems belonging to the Democratic National Committee. They flooded social-media with thousands of pro-Trump bots using rhetoric and made-up news throughout the campaign and especially in the days leading up to the election. They "weaved propaganda seamlessly into what appeared to be the nonpolitical musings of an everyday person".

And those are only what we know of now. After Trump finally admits it is not a hoax and does his duty and sets up a Presidential Commission to investigate and prevent further attacks we may find many many more avenues of attack yet undiscovered.

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-01 06:40 PM | Reply

@#20 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2017-11-01 05:35 PM |
Just to make sure I understand your reasoning:
You think that Trump and Russia secretly conspired to do something illegal when Trump made a public statement that Russia should release any found emails to the media?

#22 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-11-02 09:24 AM | Reply

@#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-01 06:40 PM
Man, you really need to stop jumping into the middle of conversations and pretend you know what's going on.
The conversation was about Russia getting specific voter information from the Trump campaign (#11). The rebuttal was that 126million people blows holes in the idea that it was targeted and specific information that they could have gotten from the Trump campaign. Do you think that Russia was unaware of the DNC or 39 state election systems that they needed to get that information from the Trump campaign? Your argument makes no sense. You quoted a line that began 'Also Zed', but didn't bother to read what Zed had written that I was responding to?
Please, if you're not going to actually read the back-and-forth to understand what is being discussed, just don't join in. Or at least don't point your 'response' to people who you are in no way responding to.

#23 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-11-02 09:31 AM | Reply

with Colonel Mustard with the Candlestick in the Ballroom! OMG!

#loadofcrap

#24 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2017-11-02 09:37 AM | Reply

don't point your 'response' to people who you are in no way responding to.

#23 | Posted by Avigdore

Poor Avigdore. So sensitive. So confused. So desperate to defend Trump. Maybe you should have someone read my #21 to you.

I responded specifically to YOUR statement in post #14 "the new claims yesterday from Facebook showing ~126million people were subjected to 'Russian propaganda' shoots holes in the weaponization of intelligence in specific places or to specific people."

Maybe I can make it a little simpler this time so I don't overtax your overworked brain housing group.

How about this for a response to #14 :

No, it doesn't.

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-02 07:43 PM | Reply

So desperate to defend Trump.
How about this for a response to #14 :
No, it doesn't.

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-02 07:43 PM
Your uninformed opinion is noted, Donnerboy.
Also, care to point out where I've defended Trump? Or is lying just something that's part of your character?

#26 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-11-02 09:47 PM | Reply

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