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Natalia V. Veselnitskaya arrived at a meeting at Trump Tower in June 2016 hoping to interest top Trump campaign officials in the contents of a memo she believed contained information damaging to the Democratic Party and, by extension, Hillary Clinton. The material was the fruit of her research as a private lawyer, she has repeatedly said, and any suggestion that she was acting at the Kremlin's behest that day is anti-Russia "hysteria." But interviews and records show that in the months before the meeting, Ms. Veselnitskaya had discussed the allegations with one of Russia's most powerful officials, the prosecutor general, Yuri Y. Chaika. And the memo she brought with her closely followed a document that Mr. Chaika's office had given to an American congressman two months earlier, incorporating some paragraphs verbatim.

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The coordination between the Trump Tower visitor and the Russian prosecutor general undercuts Ms. Veselnitskaya's account that she was a purely independent actor when she sat down with Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law, and Paul J. Manafort, then the Trump campaign chairman. It also suggests that emails from an intermediary to the younger Mr. Trump promising that Ms. Veselnitskaya would arrive with information from Russian prosecutors were rooted at least partly in fact -- not mere "puffery," as the president's son later said.

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Ms. Veselnitskaya came to Trump Tower with a memo that closely resembled the document that prosecutors had given to Mr. Rohrabacher in Moscow two months earlier. Some paragraphs were incorporated verbatim, according to a comparison of both documents, which were provided to The Times.

By all accounts, the Trump campaign officials were unimpressed -- even baffled -- by her 20-minute presentation. "Some D.N.C. donors may have done something in Russia and they didn't pay taxes," Donald Trump Jr. said later. "I was, like, ‘What does this have to do with anything?'"

After the meeting came to light last summer, Ms. Veselnitskaya insisted it was "not related at all to the fact" that Donald Trump Jr. "was the son of the candidate." But by last weekend, she was describing herself as a kind of whistle-blower who was trying to expose American political corruption.

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-27 01:59 PM | Reply

I don't doubt it for one second, especially given Veslnitskaya's contacts with Fusion GPS on the other side of this coin.

#2 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-10-27 02:07 PM | Reply

If this is important, then so is the DNC/Clinton connection to the dossier.

They're both guilty of something, or neither are guilty. You can't have one and not the other.

Personally, I believe they're all guilty, our system is corrupted beyond repair, and we need to clean House, White House, and Senate.

Otherwise, this all will not end well.

#3 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-10-27 02:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"Ms. Veselnitskaya came to Trump Tower with a memo that closely resembled the document that prosecutors had given to Mr. Rohrabacher in Moscow two months earlier. "

This is the same Rohrbacher that McCarthy is on tape saying, I think Trump and Rohrbacher work for the Russians. To which Ryan replied, Let's keep it in the family. It's also the same Rohrbacher who recently had his travel funds restricted:

The House Foreign Affairs Committee has placed restrictions on the trips Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., can take overseas using committee funds and on the hearings a subcommittee he chairs can hold, according to a report.

Rohrabacher has come under scrutiny for his ties to Russia and frequent defenses of Moscow. In 2012, the FBI warned Rohrabacher Russian spies were attempting to recruit him as an "agent of influence," the New York Times reported in May.

In addition to his ties to Russia, Rohrabacher has also raised eyebrows for his relationship with Julian Assange, founder of WikiLeaks.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

#4 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-27 02:13 PM | Reply

"They're both guilty of something, or neither are guilty."

Maybe, but that prospect doesn't rule out varying degrees of guilt. And I'm not just talking about Trump and Clinton. I'm potentially talking about members of Congress (and others) on both sides of the aisle as well. Some folks will say let's sweep it all under the rug, but I don't think that's a good idea.

#5 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-27 02:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- Some folks will say let's sweep it all under the rug, but I don't think that's a good idea.

THAT I agree with. However we need a REAL independent council to root out the corruption.

Washington is a cancerous tumor.

#6 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-10-27 02:26 PM | Reply

Some folks will say let's sweep it all under the rug, but I don't think that's a good idea.

I am 100% with you and Sheeple on this, dangle money in front of these bastards on both sides of the aisle and they will do anything you say, whether it is some Cossack Oligarch or the Leathery Satans aka the Koch Brothers.

#7 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-10-27 02:29 PM | Reply

For a little change of pace:

"Ms. Veselnitskaya had discussed the allegations with one of Russia's most powerful officials, the prosecutor general, Yuri Y. Chaika."

----- Riot - Chaika (2016)

www.bing.com

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-27 03:45 PM | Reply

This is the top Russian law official that the Russian lawyer got her talking points from:

The Russian trio has also shared an informative Q&A about the man behind the song title

What does ----- Riot want to achieve here?

----- Riot demands an immediate investigation against General Prosecutor Chaika and his family, as well as against all the top officials in his office. We hope that the CHAIKA music video will help to convince people that we cannot live in a country where its top law enforcement official is the brightest symbol of corruption and murder. ----- Riot hopes that people around the world will help us voice our outrage and turn Russia into a country where people like Chaika can no longer exist.

www.spin.com

#9 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-27 04:05 PM | Reply

Our resident sheep doesn't understand the difference between legal opposition research and and knowingly working with a foreign government to undermine an election. The DNC sucks, sure, but to equate its poor decisions with the illegal conduct of the GOP is lunacy. Fools like the sheep will never do anything to actually better this nation, instead offering only fear mongering and complaints.

#10 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-10-27 06:32 PM | Reply

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Fools like the sheep will never do anything to actually better this nation, instead offering only fear mongering and complaints.

#10 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES

Fools doing Russia's dirty work. It has got to be the most uncomfortable feeling knowing you have been fooled and used by a hostile power to undermine our Democracy and sow Chaos and discord in America.

It's no wonder they are in such deep denial. They will all need extensive psychological counseling to help them cope with the awareness of how they all fell for Russian propaganda in the first wave of the Cyber War.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-10-28 01:20 PM | Reply

Please help me understand how the oppo research conducted by an independent company, Fusion GPS, is anywhere near the same as the Drumpf campaign meeting directly with the Russians.

The not-liberal obsession with both siderism and whataboutism is almost clinical.

#12 | Posted by chuffy at 2017-10-28 05:22 PM | Reply

12 - once we get Fusion GPS bank records )which they have been fighting) we'll have a lot better idea. Same with all the recordings that the previous admin prevented from being heard with the NDA. Let's here what he has to say

#13 | Posted by homerj at 2017-10-28 06:18 PM | Reply

Need to get the dotard and the other Russian/Nazi Sympathizer's out of office before we are all speaking Russian and reporting to the kremlin.

#14 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-10-28 06:44 PM | Reply

Time to open an investigation into Hillary Clinton's car driving habits!
Deflectors in full!
--Congress GOP--

#15 | Posted by e1g1 at 2017-10-28 08:21 PM | Reply

#13 - That is not an answer. Sounds like a fishing expedition to turn a normal campaign tactic into a scandal. Monday will be interesting.

#16 | Posted by chuffy at 2017-10-28 11:24 PM | Reply

If this is important, then so is the DNC/Clinton connection to the dossier.

#3 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Only if you are a complete idiot.

#17 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-10-30 10:25 AM | Reply

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