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Saturday, October 21, 2017

They are members of one of the world's most exclusive clubs: The five former living presidents. On Saturday night, Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush and Jimmy Carter will make a rare, joint appearance at a concert benefitting hurricane relief efforts at Texas A&M University. Security will be very tight for the event at Reed Arena. ... residential historian Jeffrey Engel says the benefit concert is not only for a good cause, but sends a unifying message. "It's really remarkable to have that many together and it really shows the nation whether you're Republican or Democrat can come together for national causes."

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And He Who Shall Not be Named is not going to attend.

By my count that is 5 Presidents to 1.

Let's see how advanced the dotage is around here and who has it the worst.

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And He Who Shall Not be Named is not going to attend.

Yeah, he'll be too busy rage-tweeting from his golden crapper.

#1 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2017-10-20 11:45 PM | Reply

Naw, Trump was actually playing golf today.

While the other 5 living Presidents were raising money to help American citizens trying to survive on an island still without the basics of water and power more than 4 weeks after having been devastated by a natural disaster, actually two.

The history of these times will read like the most dystopian of fiction novels.

#2 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-10-21 09:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Naw, Trump was actually playing golf today.

Meaningless. Trump already visited Puerto Rico and sent money and help.
Can't imagine one reason a president would take part in a benefit concert.

#3 | Posted by Ray at 2017-10-21 09:36 PM | Reply


... By my count that is 5 Presidents to 1. ...

So, the draining of the swamp is working?

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-10-21 10:53 PM | Reply

The rich love posh galas with tight security. It makes them feel...benevolent.

#5 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-10-22 12:44 AM | Reply

Where's a hurricane when you need one?

#6 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-10-22 01:05 AM | Reply

#3,4,5....

P.A.T.H.E.T.I.C.

#7 | Posted by memyselfini at 2017-10-22 02:22 AM | Reply

Oh, and go Stros!

#8 | Posted by memyselfini at 2017-10-22 02:23 AM | Reply

OMG!

The Astros?

Best thing ever happened to them was being transferred to the ----- League.

And yeah, I'm old enough to remember when they were the Colt 45s.

#9 | Posted by TedBaxter at 2017-10-22 09:13 AM | Reply

That picture of them with Gaga.

Two Republicans
Three Bushes
Four Democrats

Surreal!

#10 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-10-22 02:13 PM | Reply

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I heard they came up with 31 million.

That's nearly as much as conservative icon Bill O'Reilly paid his latest victim to shut up...

#11 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-10-22 02:31 PM | Reply

This is noble, on their part. But why must we resort to private small donations in this situation, when overnight we demonstrated the ability to shovel trillions into the pockets of criminal bankers, without triggering runaway inflation?

Clearly saving Capitalism takes priority over saving human lives.

#12 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-10-22 03:26 PM | Reply

"But why must we resort to private small donations in this situation"

Because every Trump voter, plus Trump, thinks there should be no government aid, only charity.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-22 03:30 PM | Reply

Because every Trump voter, plus Trump, thinks there should be no government aid, only charity.
#13 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

So it's okay if I steal from you and spend the money wherever I choose.

#14 | Posted by Ray at 2017-10-22 03:35 PM | Reply

You seem to be having better luck imagining my personal finances, Ray.
Congratulations on confronting your own personal demons!

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-22 03:37 PM | Reply

You're safe Snoofy.

You have nothing to steal. It's all debt.

#16 | Posted by Ray at 2017-10-22 03:53 PM | Reply

Things which are a natural monopoly belong in the public sector and in many cases requires taxes. But the net result is cost savings for the taxpayer. These should include the postal service, health care, roads, dams, utilities...

It is easy to prove in the case of health care it means 50% savings to the public. Similarly package service from four trucks a day to every address is not as cheap as one.

#17 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-10-22 05:32 PM | Reply

It is easy to prove in the case of health care it means 50% savings to the public. Similarly package service from four trucks a day to every address is not as cheap as one.
#17 | POSTED BY BAYVIKING

You sorely underestimate the power of free market competition to hold down prices to affordable levels. When a third party like govenment takes full responsibility for payment, doctor and patient are under no constraints. It guarantees waste.

In fact, health care prices started going up after Medicare became law. With health care costs currently approaching 20% of GDP, something has to give. It'll probably be services. A single party plan won't make a difference.

#18 | Posted by Ray at 2017-10-22 06:11 PM | Reply

"You sorely underestimate the power of free market competition to hold down prices to affordable levels."

Just show me where on planet earth free market competition holds down health care costs.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-22 06:22 PM | Reply

Just show me where on planet earth free market competition holds down health care costs.
#19 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

I just told you. Before Medicare became law.

#20 | Posted by Ray at 2017-10-22 06:31 PM | Reply

Show me the money!

Also, can we do things like compare life expectancy and such, to sort of, see what we're getting for our money?

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-22 06:33 PM | Reply

I mean, I don't think we're going back to a world without widespread use of prescription medication.

So, whatever idea you might be floating by evoking the time before Medicare became law, I don't see how it's germane to how the free market is going to hold down the cost of Rx meds. Especially when so many of them are patented and thus immune from much of what market forces can bring to the table.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-22 06:35 PM | Reply

www.thebalance.com

"Health care consumed 4 percent of earnings in 1960 compared to 6 percent in 2013.

The two causes of this massive increase were government policy and lifestyle changes. First, the United States relies on company-sponsored private health insurance. The government created programs like Medicare and Medicaid to help those without insurance. These programs spurred demand for health care services. That gave providers the ability to raise prices. Other efforts to reform health care and cut costs raised them instead.

Second, chronic illnesses, such as diabetes and heart disease, have increased. They are responsible for 85 percent of health care costs. Almost half of all Americans have at least one of them. They are expensive and difficult to treat.

As a result, the sickest 5 percent of the population consume 50 percent of total health care costs. The healthiest 50 percent only consume 3 percent of the nation's health care costs.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-22 06:43 PM | Reply

Show me the money!

Costs are rising out of control. What more evidence do you need? It doen't occur to you that the idea of containing medical costs by government diktat is producing the effect it was advertised to solve.

So, whatever idea you might be floating by evoking the time before Medicare became law, I don't see how it's germane to how the free market is going to hold down the cost of Rx meds. Especially when so many of them are patented and thus immune from much of what market forces can bring to the table.

Because before Medicare, government interference in market forces was almost non-existent except as a corporate tax deduction.

Especially when so many of them are patented and thus immune from much of what market forces can bring to the table.

That too is part of the problem. In an ideal world, if government cared about protecting the public, patent medicines would be outlawed because they are all toxic. Natural medicines are far more effective and without toxic side effects. But they can't be patented.

This isn't a problem for me because I don't get sick.

#24 | Posted by Ray at 2017-10-22 06:52 PM | Reply

You see, thanks to technological innovation, even in a tightly regulated sector, we'd actually be paying less... if we could just get rid of that five percent!

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-22 06:52 PM | Reply

"This isn't a problem for me because I don't get sick."

Indeed, the problem is that people get sick. Good eye.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-22 06:54 PM | Reply

"In an ideal world, if government cared about protecting the public, patent medicines would be outlawed because they are all toxic."

Nihilism coupled with idealism.
Pollyanna: The Teen Angst Years.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-22 06:56 PM | Reply

Second, chronic illnesses, such as diabetes and heart disease, have increased.

Yep. American dietary habits are pretty bad. BTW, so have chronic diseases in general increasing.

First, the United States relies on company-sponsored private health insurance.

That's why the health care companies play a major role in writing the laws.

The government created programs like Medicare and Medicaid to help those without insurance.

As I said in #24, government programs tend to produce the result they were advertised to alleviate.

#28 | Posted by Ray at 2017-10-22 06:59 PM | Reply

Indeed, the problem is that people get sick. Good eye.
#26 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

The difference is that I've been able to heal myself by natural non-toxic methods. That's why I know they work.

#29 | Posted by Ray at 2017-10-22 07:02 PM | Reply

Nihilism coupled with idealism.
Pollyanna: The Teen Angst Years.
#27 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

You just went stupid.

#30 | Posted by Ray at 2017-10-22 07:03 PM | Reply

You see, thanks to technological innovation, even in a tightly regulated sector, we'd actually be paying less... if we could just get rid of that five percent!
#25 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Death panels. Just don't call them that. Once they have your money, they set a threshold where they cut you off. Or they inject a lot of toxic stuff to shorten your life.

#31 | Posted by Ray at 2017-10-22 07:23 PM | Reply

"That's why I know they work."

You know they work for you.

Just wondering, what diagnoses did you overcome, with what natural methods?

What would your advice be for someone like Ryan White? Do you have a cure for AIDS?

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-22 07:40 PM | Reply

"Death panels. Just don't call them that."

The term you're looking for is "lifetime maximum." It's the market solution to the problem of runaway cost.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-22 07:42 PM | Reply

I wonder who will raise more money? The Ex-presidents or the November Talahassee concert of Buffett, Chesney and Toby Keith?

#34 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2017-10-23 10:20 PM | Reply

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