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Tuesday, October 10, 2017

In Silicon Valley, some male investors have declined one-on-one meetings with women, or rescheduled them from restaurants to conference rooms. On Wall Street, certain senior men have tried to avoid closed-door meetings with junior women. And in TV news, some male executives have scrupulously minded their words in conversations with female talent.

In interviews, the men describe a heightened caution because of recent sexual harassment cases, and they worry that one accusation, or misunderstood comment, could end their careers. But their actions affect women's careers, too -- potentially depriving them of the kind of relationships that lead to promotions or investments.

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It's an unintended consequence of a season of sex scandals. Research shows that building genuine relationships with senior people is perhaps the most important contributor to career advancement. In some offices it's known as having a rabbi; researchers call it sponsorship. Unlike mentors, who give advice and are often formally assigned, sponsors know and respect people enough that they are willing to find opportunities for them, and advocate and fight for them.

But women are less likely to build such relationships, in part because both senior men and junior women worry that a relationship will be misread by others. At every level, more men than women say they interact with senior leaders at least once a week, according to research by McKinsey and the nonprofit Lean In. This imbalance is a major reason women stall at lower levels of companies, according to a variety of research.

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"If you don't believe in rape culture, you are a member of rape culture."

- Snoofy, to me.

#1 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-10-10 05:12 PM | Reply

"You've been with a woman, Squire...I mean, you've slept with a lady? What's it like?"

-Snoofy, to me.

#2 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-10-10 05:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 5

Aww, thanks for thinking of me you two!

You guys sharing a room then?

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-10 06:14 PM | Reply

Remember when the smuggies mocked Michael Pence for limiting his private visits with women? Yeah, such a square.

#4 | Posted by nullifidian at 2017-10-10 06:21 PM | Reply

"Remember when the smuggies mocked Michael Pence for limiting his private visits with women? Yeah, such a square."

Here's the quote that sparked all the debate:

"In 2002, Mike Pence told the Hill that he never eats alone with a woman other than his wife and that he won't attend events featuring alcohol without her by his side, either."

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If a man eats alone with another man or woman in a public place such as a well-lit, well-attended restaurant, as opposed to a private setting such as a hotel room, it seems unlikely anyone would be able to legitimately accuse him of sexual harassment.

As I recall Pence was trying to avoid temptation, rather than a sexual harassment allegation.

#5 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-10 10:40 PM | Reply

Pence also said he doesn't attend events where alcohol is flowing unless his wife is with him. He also said he frequently turns down drinks or dinner with male colleagues. Also, the temptation he mentioned wasn't of a sexual nature but of the spirit: "pride and conceit".

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#6 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-10 10:50 PM | Reply

here's a novel idea. treat women with respect.

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-10-10 10:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"pride and conceit"

Pretentious F.

#8 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-10-11 01:35 PM | Reply

I have known men who faced allegations of harassment which they denied. And it seemingly always boiled down to he said / she said. No way to ever know for certain what, if anything happened. And even if the man was not disciplined, his reputation was most certainly affected. Over the years I have observed time and again that if something can misconstrued, there is a good chance it will be. People tend to think the worst of others and the best of themselves. Bad intentions are often imputed even when not the actual intent.

Welcome to the 21st Century. Cover your own behind. Better to be accused of not being willing to speak alone with a female employee or 'underling' than being accused of sexually harassing that same person. Learn this lesson early and save yourself a lot of grief.

#9 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-10-11 02:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Better to be accused of not being willing to speak alone with a female employee or 'underling' than being accused of sexually harassing that same person....

#9 | POSTED BY MODER8

This is a personal policy for VP Pence. Last night, when it was mentioned JPW said that only a creeper would have such a policy.

#10 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-10-11 03:04 PM | Reply

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#9

Lawyers in most firms, who are more attuned to sexual harassment in the workplace, have been following these types of rules since 1994ish (see Weeks v. Baker & McKenzie for the reason why). I never have a closed door meeting with a female associate without someone else there, will always go to lunch in groups and am even careful when I meet a female client for drinks or dinner by bringing someone else along if I can, letting my assistant and wife know the exact time and place and documenting the meeting through emails.

As Moder8 says, "Bad intentions are often imputed even when not the actual intent."

#11 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-10-11 03:24 PM | Reply

Pence also said ... he frequently turns down drinks or dinner with male colleagues.

Or else he might end up blowing them.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-10-11 03:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Another option is to cover the women completely and don't let them out of the house without an escort. Problem solved!

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-10-11 04:12 PM | Reply

Once bitten, twice shy.

#14 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-10-11 04:20 PM | Reply

Let's face it, if a women takes a lunch or dinner date with a man she's begging to get the D.
-Donna Karan

#15 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2017-10-11 04:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Let's face it, if a women takes a lunch or dinner date with a man she's begging to get the D.
-Donna Karan

That applies to men taking lunches with me too.
-Mike Pence, said while wiping drool off his chin.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-10-11 05:20 PM | Reply

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