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Monday, October 09, 2017

Google for the first time has uncovered evidence that Russian operatives exploited the company's platforms in an attempt to interfere in the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the company's investigation. The Silicon Valley giant has found that tens of thousands of dollars were spent on ads by Russian agents who aimed to spread disinformation across Google's many products, which include YouTube, as well as advertising associated with Google search, Gmail, and the company's DoubleClick ad network, the people said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss matters that have not been made public. Google runs the world's largest online advertising business, and YouTube is the world's largest online video site.

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The discovery by Google is also significant because the ads do not appear to be from the same Kremlin-affiliated troll farm that bought ads on Facebook -- a sign that the Russian effort to spread disinformation online may be a much broader problem than Silicon Valley companies have unearthed so far.

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Oxford University researchers, meanwhile, reported Monday that Twitter and Facebook accounts linked to Russians targeted online content at U.S. military veterans and active-duty personnel, mixing disinformation alongside other content already being read and shared widely among these communities.

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-09 11:59 AM | Reply

I wonder how many truther videos start with ones made by Russians?

#2 | Posted by Tor at 2017-10-09 12:25 PM | Reply

JEEEEZUS H KEYRIGHST....If they'd wanted to know that, all they had to do was "google it"

#3 | Posted by ABlock at 2017-10-09 02:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I trusted Youtube for my newz and got took.

If only I'd known. #HeavyTears

#4 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-10-09 02:43 PM | Reply

I trusted Youtube for my newz and got took.

If only I'd known. #HeavyTears

#4 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Translation:

I'm so butthurt about hillary beating bernie that now I'm defending foreign enemies who work to undermine our elections and instigate civil war in our country.

If bernie can't be president, then putin might as well be president, right dum dum?

#5 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-10-09 03:35 PM | Reply

I'm grieving my lost vote after being scammed by the news I trusted in my facebook-tweeter feed.

#CrookerHillary was a terrible lie. and Russian. I feel so dirty.

#6 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-10-09 04:25 PM | Reply

Not exactly a who's who of influential media. All the good media outlets are propaganda arms for corporate globalists and oligarchs so the Ruskies obviously had to take what they could get.

#7 | Posted by Sully at 2017-10-09 04:57 PM | Reply

"Not exactly a who's who of influential media."

Good point.
Everybody knows that Infowars is the most influential media in America.

INFOWARS IS THE MOST INFLUENTIAL MEDIA OUTLET IN AMERICA
The rise of alt-media is being praised worldwide
www.infowars.com

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-09 05:00 PM | Reply

"I'm grieving my lost vote after being scammed by the news I trusted in my facebook-tweeter feed."

You are this place's scam facebook-twitter feed.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-09 05:02 PM | Reply

Why is it only the loser Russians are on youtube these days?

What happened to groups like this?

www.youtube.com

At least they were trying to make people smile.

#10 | Posted by Tor at 2017-10-09 05:20 PM | Reply

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I've used gmail for like a decade now and I don't recall ever seeing an ad.

Must be pretty ineffective. Besides, most of the "likely to vote trump" folks were probably still on AOL last November.

#11 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-10-09 05:42 PM | Reply

I've used gmail for like a decade now and I don't recall ever seeing an ad
#11 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES

Smh Please tell me you are joking Dr. Jones.... If you aren't I will explain how it works though, just be honest.

#12 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-10-09 06:50 PM | Reply

#12;

I seem to be grandfathered into no ads or something. Works for me.

#13 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-10-09 07:11 PM | Reply

#13 Oh cr@p on a stick man..... Lmao. Suuuure buddy, if that's what you want to believe have at it.


Don't read the link below if you don't want to know Dr Jones

www.wordstream.com

And Yes! Yes it does use your Gmail account to find out what your into also.

If you want a more complicated and scary explanation ask Rcade or Hans to explain it more.

#14 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-10-09 08:07 PM | Reply

#9 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Dems and liberals are in complete disarray. Instead of creating policy they're crying foul. Focusing on Russian facebook posts is a waste of time.

Educate America on why we need to champion and vote for real community servants that lead with liberal values instead of Wall Street and MIC.

#15 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-10-09 10:02 PM | Reply

An attempt to murder democracy took place sheeple.

Pay attention.

#16 | Posted by Tor at 2017-10-09 10:40 PM | Reply

#15 Dems can have the best policies in the world, but if the system is vulnerable to foreign attacks, it's meaningless:

Hacker study: Russia could get into U.S. voting machines 10/09/2017

[T]he hackers say that taking the machines apart in the months since has exposed deeper vulnerabilities. Parts and programs that could easily be embedded with malware and sleeper commands are being incorporated from all over the world, from suppliers and shippers without clear security measures.

That easily opens the possibility that a country with large resources and a long-term view -- like Russia -- could get access.

It sounds like science fiction, or at least "Ocean's 11," but cybersecurity experts are frantically waving their hands, trying to get Americans to see that in foreign capitals, the American voting system just looks like easy opportunity.

www.politico.com

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-09 11:20 PM | Reply

Ignorance won't be bliss for the Dems if more Russian election attacks come to pass:

"What really concerns me is having suffered these probing attacks last year, we may be in for an even more sophisticated, more potentially effective assault next time around -- and oh, by the way, others were watching," said Ambassador Doug Lute, a retired Army lieutenant general who served as the permanent representative to NATO from 2013-2017.

Lute wrote the introduction to the DEFCON report, and said that from watching Russian President Vladimir Putin in action, he is anxious about what looks likely to come based on what he's already seen, and feels like alarms should be ringing about voting in the 2018 midterms.

"It felt eerily familiar to Russian military tactics," Lute said. "And it felt very uncomfortable in terms of how little time we have."

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-09 11:24 PM | Reply

Trust NO ONE you only know on the net.

#19 | Posted by Tor at 2017-10-09 11:26 PM | Reply

Authorities like Comey say they didn't this time, but why are some people so confident they won't next time, or the time after that:

Russia hacked vital election infrastructure before the election. Did they rig the vote?

Some time within the week of November 3, 2016, the FBI held a hastily convened conference call with Florida's 67 county election supervisors who operate a specific type of election voting system. They had sobering news for the officials: Russia had successfully hacked the vendor of Florida's electronic voting machines. The FBI and Homeland Security were so concerned, a second call was organized with Florida state officials to share information on the cyber threat.

The Russian hack of a voting machine manufacturer came amidst a frenzy of activity by Kremlin hackers who had successfully gained access to the State Voters Rolls in Arizona and Illinois. What gave investigators pause, however, was the fact that the Florida hack had a different target. It wasn't just collecting voter identities; it was aimed at the manufacturers of the voting machines across the state.

narativ.org

#20 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-09 11:30 PM | Reply

Honestly, this sounds like election malpractice:

"Almost 20 percent of Americans vote on digital systems that don't produce a paper trail. This includes several states such as New Jersey, Georgia, Louisiana, and South Carolina as well as several jurisdictions in swing or battleground states like Wisconsin, Florida, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Indiana. Many of the machines are more than 10 years old and contain software no longer maintained by its manufacturers – we're talking Microsoft XP or older – and are not updated with the latest security patches."

No paper trails. How convenient.

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-09 11:34 PM | Reply

It's a system designed to be subjected to malfeasance (or whatever the opposite of malfeasance is) by the States, with little Federal oversight or recourse.

Just take a look at how many of our Constitutional Amendments deal with voting.

Suppressing the vote is as American as apple pie, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar with a hidden agenda.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-10 12:42 AM | Reply

one person, one vote and if your vote doesn't count then your standing as a citizen is substantially reduced. to provide a secure voting apparatus easily available to all citizens
is a primary duty for an effective representative government. who is it that doesn't want
all of our citizens to have a say in the way and by who we're represented?
If we can't or won't identify those who seek to nullify our vote, then we'll never be able to
confront them or stop their machinations.
They divide us by party, by race, by sex until our only commonality is our division
As an example, black people in this country have been subjected to every form of voter
suppression that can be gotten away with...and then there is outrage when it's felt that
they disrespect the flag and anthem.
i can understand prejudice but i can't understand bigotry and hatred toward people who are
our fellow citizens and from a strictly altruistic point of view, if they can do it to one of us
then they can do it to us all.
Who doesn't want our vote to be counted. until we deal with that nothing else really matters

#23 | Posted by ABlock at 2017-10-10 12:49 AM | Reply

"Educate America on why we need to champion and vote for real community servants that lead with liberal values instead of Wall Street and MIC."

Education is left to the states.
Thus, "Educate America" isn't a thing that's going to happen in schools.
But it might happen when Trump starts World War III.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-10 02:59 AM | Reply

This story, which is probably but not necessarily true, has the persistent effect of blowing any Russian influence on the 2016 completely out of proportion.

Last Sunday 60 minutes laid out in excruciating detail how Trump's Republican propaganda team ran rings around Clinton's propaganda team. Campaigns which spent hundreds of millions of dollars while the Russians are accused of depending hundreds of thousands, even though no substantive link has ever been connected to the Russian State. We know for a fact that an important part of CIA propaganda campaign includes posing as a Russian website to broadcast lies about Russia.

But no one should be living under the illusion that our voting system is free and fair. It most definitely is not. Republicans have the means and the motive to rig the outcome in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and there is mounting evidence of this in the case of Wisconsin. They understood that's all they needed to do. It doesn't matter that Hillary got more votes, a fact which would be much more difficult to cover up without being caught.

For some reason (deep State objection?) that 60 minutes episode is not available on CBS news now. Else i would link it.

"Its all BS and its bad for you" George Carlin

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#25 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-10-10 09:44 AM | Reply

Here is a snapshot of a bigger picture:

www.cbsnews.com

#26 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-10-10 10:56 AM | Reply

#26 | POSTED BY BAYVIKING

great link..it feels like we've entered into some science fiction/jason bourne scenario

#27 | Posted by ABlock at 2017-10-10 11:06 AM | Reply

Republicans have the means and the motive to rig the outcome
#25 | POSTED BY BAYVIKING

"the means and the motive to rig the outcome" in this case it's been ascribed to republicans

there are numerous examples of election tampering by both parties

in a case presently being reviewed by the supreme court, RBG asks,"explain how gerrymandering
is a benefit to the democratic process"

Trump is the quintessential example to explain the situation we find ourselves in. he claimed an
affiliation with democrats but switched to republican when that became the opportune thing
to do. his time in office has demonstrated that his only real agenda is one of self enrichment.

wall street bankers...not nearly inclusive enough to describe the problem. the aftermath of the
2008 crisis demonstrated that subversive, illegal manipulation of economies was a world wide
occurence.

We're dealing with class warfare on a world wide scale...that's been an ever present conflict
but it's no longer regional disputes. globalization has pitted the worlds underclasses against
one another to the point that we don't know who to blame.
it's definitely not our neighbor, the black guy, or the democrat that lives on the other side
what are we going to do?

#28 | Posted by ABlock at 2017-10-10 11:52 AM | Reply

For some reason (deep State objection?) that 60 minutes episode is not available on CBS news now.

For Christ's sake, "deep state objection." You gotta be kiddin'.

Links to the segment, a transcript of the segment and an NBC article about the segment. electionlawblog.org

#29 | Posted by et_al at 2017-10-10 12:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Educate America on why we need to champion and vote for real community servants that lead with liberal values instead of Wall Street and MIC.

#15 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

A Democrat candidate did stand up against Wall Street and the MIC. Unfortunately, the emails proved, the the DNC wanted Hillary instead.

#30 | Posted by Petrous at 2017-10-10 04:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"...the the DNC wanted Hillary instead." - #30 | Posted by Petrous at 2017-10-10 04:24 PM

And, as it turns out, so did almost 4,000,000 more Democratic primary voters.

#31 | Posted by Hans at 2017-10-10 04:27 PM | Reply

How Russia Harvested American Rage to Reshape U.S. Politics

John W. Kelly, the founder of Graphika, a commercial analytics company in New York, said the Russians appeared to have a consistent strategy across different platforms. Graphika has tracked thousands of social media accounts whose content closely tracks Russian information operations, promoting articles and videos about WikiLeaks dumps of stolen emails and "false flag" conspiracies about Syrian chemical weapons.

The Russian accounts intermingle with real groups of Facebook or Twitter users -- from white nationalists to Bernie Sanders supporters -- and seek to manipulate and radicalize them, Mr. Kelly said.

The Russian-influenced networks frequently promote obscure conservative YouTube channels such as the Next News Network and the Trump Breaking News Network, driving up their views and advertising revenue. A video posted in February by a conservative internet radio host, who claimed that 30 politicians were about to be arrested in connection with the "Pizzagate" hoax, racked up more than 300,000 views on YouTube. Another YouTube video, claiming that Michelle Obama had 214 personal assistants and had purchased four yachts with taxpayer money, had close to a million views.

www.nytimes.com

#32 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-10 04:40 PM | Reply

Jesus etal,
My mistake, I found it and posted it immediately in #26.

I cannot say that Russia did not participate in the 2016 campaign. It is difficult to imagine that it could have been effective unless Republicans provided some guidance.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but the USA interferes in free and fair elections everywhere including Russia. This is like listening to Trump whine because someone called him a name, after devoting two years to insulting everyone else inn the 2016 campaign. Its absurd on its face.

What is absolutely clear is that Parscale and the Republican Party had and have a 10,000 times greater influence in the sea of lies we live in.

#33 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-10-10 04:59 PM | Reply

Educate America on why we need to champion and vote for real community servants that lead with liberal values instead of Wall Street and MIC.

#15 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Seriously bro?

So America's electoral process is under attack by a foreign hostile power (an attack that was evidently quite successful and still ongoing) and your priority is to vote for better community leaders (using that same process)?

Sounds like you and Trump both need to get your priorities in order.

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-10-10 05:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#34 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Feel free to cite the edu paper that provides evidence of all the votes that were manipulated.

I'd also like to hear testimony of the all the voters who were "duped" into casting a vote based on fraudulent info.

I'll be standing by for your wall of links and text.

#35 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-10-10 05:53 PM | Reply

#15 | Posted by SheepleSchism
Seriously bro?

Yeah, seriously. If the political machine wants to keep pushing candidates like CLinton upon us, we will go nowhere very fast.

#36 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-10-10 05:54 PM | Reply

I'll be standing by for your wall of links and text.

#35 | Posted by SheepleSchism

No, no you won't. I have provided plenty of links in the past. Gal_Tuesday has been awesome and has been also providing plenty of links. This article shows you that we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg. And the only reason we are even seeing that is because of the many intrepid journalists who continue to dig into this story. And it does not matter how much evidence is provided you, you will not be convinced. And there is a lot of evidence already out there if you cared and bothered to look. I have seen one of the Russian ads. These ads were circulated millions of times. I know they affected how people think because that very ad was repeated back to me VERBATIM many times by Trumpsters during the election. Some right here on the DR.

If the political machine wants to keep pushing candidates like CLinton upon us, we will go nowhere very fast.

#36 | Posted by SheepleSchism

If the Russians are allowed to convince voters that Hillary was PURE EVIL and we put our heads in the sand and do nothing to stop them then no matter who we put forward the Russians will again decide who gets elected.

Is that really what you want bro?

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-10-10 06:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

JFC, why can't people get this isn't about Hillary? It isn't ultimately about Trump and the Russians. It's about future elections, and not only presidential races. It's about anyone who wants to insert themselves into our elections--the Chinese, the North Koreans, the Russians, the Mercers, whoever. And it isn't only about America. France, Britain, Germany, etc. all are vulnerable.

#38 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-10 07:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Yeah, seriously. If the political machine wants to keep pushing candidates like CLinton upon us, we will go nowhere very fast.

#36 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-10-10 05:54

You're a Russian. I've learned to tell.

You've a right not to like Clinton. But if you're really an American after all get on the bus to protect this democracy.

#39 | Posted by Zed at 2017-10-10 07:17 PM | Reply

We really do need a Russian flag on this blog. You have to be an enemy of this country to so willfully misunderstand such basic political points.

#40 | Posted by Zed at 2017-10-10 07:19 PM | Reply

If the Russians are allowed to [influence the electorate] and we put our heads in the sand and do nothing to stop them then no matter who we put forward the Russians will again decide who gets elected.

FEC asks for public comment on online ad disclosure rules thehill.com

The move comes as some lawmakers are pressing for tighter disclosure requirements in the wake of Facebook's revelation that it had uncovered 3,000 political ads purchased by Russian actors.

During the 2012 election cycle, Facebook and Google had both received exemptions from the FEC's rules requiring that political ads feature a disclosure indicating who paid for them.

#41 | Posted by et_al at 2017-10-10 08:06 PM | Reply

Zed if you were more American than hack you'd know our democracy has been undermined by corporate money. Russia's attempts are quaint in comparison. You're too easily manipulated to speak for America so stop pretending otherwise.

#42 | Posted by Sully at 2017-10-11 09:55 AM | Reply

It's about future elections, and not only presidential races. It's about anyone who wants to insert themselves into our elections--the Chinese, the North Koreans, the Russians, the Mercers, whoever. - #38 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-10 07:14 PM

Honest question: Is your problem that outside entities can affect the elections, or that anyone can? If the exact same situation as the current one was determined to have been perpetrated by Mr. & Mrs. Russian, a nice 60 year old married couple living on the same farm that their parents, parents, parents built in rural Ohio, how would that change your feelings on the matter. I'm trying to identify if your issue is really with the current opinion on freedom of speech.

#43 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-10-11 10:15 AM | Reply


#42 | Posted by Sully at 2017-10-11

Move your bed, the better able to wake up on the right side of it.

#44 | Posted by Zed at 2017-10-11 10:49 AM | Reply

I think a Russian Flag would be great here. So many of you are doing your best to turn a vital political issue into verbal mush. There must be a reason for it.

#45 | Posted by Zed at 2017-10-11 10:51 AM | Reply

I'm trying to identify if your issue is really with the current opinion on freedom of speech.

#43 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-10-11 10:15 AMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

As one example, not the only one.

#46 | Posted by Zed at 2017-10-11 10:52 AM | Reply

I'm not entirely sure I understand what you're pointing at, Zed, but I think you're claim is that I am trying to obfuscate Russia interference in past and future elections. Is that right? If so, I do ask that you consider that my asking GT if she was so offended because of an outside entity affected the campaign, or if the problem was simply that anyone had the ability to manipulate it. The only way to find a reasonable solution to the problem is to come to grasp with the exactly what the issues are.

It would do little good to discuss banning any expenditures by foreign nationals on global websites if the real issue that GT has is with campaign finance and the problems arising from limitations on the 1st amendment. I'm sorry that you think having a real discussion about the situation is trying to turn it into 'verbal mush' (again, that's if I'm reading you correctly). How exactly would you propose discussing the problem and how to fix it, then?

#47 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-10-11 11:10 AM | Reply

#47

Mush.

The elections need to be clean and honest. Period.

A good start would be going back to paper ballots.

#48 | Posted by Zed at 2017-10-11 11:27 AM | Reply

Did Tokyo Rose have freedom of speech? She was an American citizen. Would it make a difference if she operated an internet platform?

#49 | Posted by Zed at 2017-10-11 11:29 AM | Reply

This isn't a discussion of the 1st Amendment. It's a discussion about when we are at war.

#50 | Posted by Zed at 2017-10-11 11:35 AM | Reply

Russia isn't the only one with cyber capabilities:

N. Korea hacked Seoul's war plan: report

www.dailymail.co.uk

Chinese launched cyber attack on Aussie defence contractor

www.theaustralian.com.au

These articles don't indicate the N Koreans or Chinese are trying to tamper with anyone's elections, but isn't it just a matter of time?

#51 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-11 11:56 AM | Reply

But we have threats closer to home:

Unsealed documents show Kobach urged Trump to change federal voting law

www.mcclatchydc.com

Not that many people would trust him if he did:

Trump Still Hasn't Gotten Around to Appointing Someone to Protect Our Elections From Cyberattacks

The National Protection and Programs Directorate remains leaderless 10 months after Trump promised to get cybersecurity personnel in place.

www.motherjones.com

#52 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-11 12:00 PM | Reply

GT, See #43, pleasea

#53 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-10-11 12:02 PM | Reply

"Zed if you were more American than hack you'd know our democracy has been undermined by corporate money. Russia's attempts are quaint in comparison."

How about if corporate interests work together with foreign interests to undermine our elections? How about American oligarchs working with Russian oligarchs, for example?

Mercer money is behind Cambridge Analytica. Carter Page has ties Rosneft and Gazprom. Tillerson was head of Exxon. Wilbur Ross was the head of the Bank of Cyprus and has ties to Deutsche Bank and a number of Russian oligarchs. Mnuchin's Hollywood business partner (Ukrainian-born but grew up in Russia) made billions investing in Russia.

Personally, I don't think this is so much about Russia vs. America, although that is part of it, as it is about the oligarchs vs. the rest of us.

#54 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-11 12:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I am against Citizens United, dark money in politics, the ludicrous notion that corporations are people, too, my friend. I am for calling out Trump and Bannon's faux populism. Bannon and Breitbart, as well as Trump, are backed by Mercers' billions. Nothing could be further from the truth than the asinine assertion that Trump has drained the swamp.

#55 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-11 12:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ok, against CU. I suppose you support government funded election campaigns? I think that in the long run, that would do a lot to protect the election by devaluing it.

Consider this: If entities can no longer 'bribe' officials with ad campaign contributions, then those officials shouldn't be so corrupted by the influence of the corporation or people doing the bribing. Part of me thinks that we'd need to include some sort of guideline preventing hiring of politicians after they leave office, but then how you get the non-rich to choose to be candidates if they can't get a job once they're done with office?

Less outside monies spent should be a massive hit to the income of ad selling agencies which would have a pretty strong impact on tv/radio/internet/mailer/newspaper companies.
We'd also get to stop seeing ads a year before elections. I'm all for that, for sure.
There would need to be some honest consideration as to how to minimize non-ad articles promoting or defaming candidates. If you've read anything that I've written, you probably know that I don't trust any news service to be unbiased, and something would need to be done to address that.

And all of that would need to be wrapped up in a constitutional amendment. So, find the people who are against that kind of stuff and figure out what you can offer them to come up with a compromise that'll get passed by the government and the states. It looks like a daunting challenge.

(of course, if you don't support government funded campaigns, then that's a lot of discussion for nothing, and I ask you to be a bit more open in the future =-)

#56 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-10-11 12:59 PM | Reply

I'm trying to identify if your issue is really with the current opinion on freedom of speech.

#43 | Posted by Avigdore

The Russian government is not protected by the 1st Amenndment. No foreign government is. The Constitution is a compact between the US Government and the American People. We do not have to allow the Russian government or any hostile foreign power (North Korea, China, ISIS?) to use our agreement with our government to attack us, using our own freedoms against us in order to undermine our democratic institutions.

If they want protections afforded by our Constitution they need to come here and become American.

#57 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-10-11 02:32 PM | Reply

Russia Probe Now Investigating Cambridge Analytica, rump's ‘Psychographic' Data Gurus

They were once Steve Bannon's favorite analytics shop. Now investigators want to know if the Kremlin had a thing for Cambridge Analytica, too.

A data firm backed by some of Donald Trump's closest allies is now facing scrutiny as part of an investigation into possible collusion between the president's team and Russian operatives, The Daily Beast has learned.

The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) is looking at Cambridge Analytica's work for President Donald Trump's campaign as part of its investigation into Russian efforts to meddle in the 2016 race, according to sources familiar with the probe.

www.thedailybeast.com

#58 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-11 03:57 PM | Reply

rump's = Trump's

#59 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-11 04:02 PM | Reply

Freudian slip, Gal?

#60 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-10-11 04:05 PM | Reply

#60 I plead the 5th.

#61 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-11 04:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

House panel to publicly release Russia Facebook ads

www.reuters.com

#62 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-10-11 05:18 PM | Reply

@#57 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-10-11 02:32 PM

While what you posted was true, it misses the point of my questions, which was if she would be upset if it were 2 American citizens, Mr. and Mrs. Russian who purchased the ads. Perhaps going back and rereading through them would clear it up. If not, I'd be happy to explain further.

#63 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-10-12 02:24 PM | Reply

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