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Sunday, October 08, 2017

Counter-protesting a protest, Vice President Mike Pence walked out of Sunday's NFL game between the Indianapolis Colts and the San Francisco 49ers as several 49ers players knelt during a rendition of the national anthem. ... Following the example of former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, NFL players around the country have knelt during renditions of the national anthem in order to protest against police brutality and racial injustice directed towards black Americans. More than a hundred NFL players from several football teams kneeled or held arms in solidarity earlier this month after President Donald Trump called NFL players who kneel during the anthem "sons of ---."




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For the second week in a row, the 49ers had more than 20 players kneeling during the national anthem with their hands over their hearts. Teammates stood behind the kneeling players with one hand on a kneeling teammate's shoulder and the other over their hearts. The Colts wore black T-shirts with the words "We Will" on the front and "Stand for equality, justice, unity, respect, dialogue, opportunity" on the back for the second straight week. The players stood with their arms locked during the anthem.


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Hey Pence, 🖕🏻

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2017-10-08 02:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 5

Mike Pence is the poster child for white supremacy.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-10-08 03:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 4

Teammates stood behind the kneeling players with one hand on a kneeling teammate's shoulder and the other over their hearts. The Colts wore black T-shirts with the words "We Will" on the front and "Stand for equality, justice, unity, respect, dialogue, opportunity" on the back for the second straight week. The players stood with their arms locked during the anthem.

And the Vice President of the United States saw disrespect for (the Flag Code-violating display) of our American flag and our national anthem by players silently taking a knee with their hands held over their hearts?

This is Trump's America of contrived grievance, targeting those who dare draw attention to their own lack of equal treatment in a nation supposedly based on laws guaranteeing it, yet falling far short on delivering that promise.

#3 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-10-08 03:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Pence rhymes with dense.

Also, the disturbing persona Pence exudes reminds me of Judge Smails from Caddyshack.

#4 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2017-10-08 03:29 PM | Reply

The pretty transparent upshot of all this was that the White House feels it needs to keep the ‘ungrateful black players won't honor our flag or our military' storyline going for yet another week. (Pence flew last night from Las Vegas to Indianapolis for this and is about to fly back to California for a fundraiser, a whole almost cross country trip just to make this stunt possible.) It is conspicuous how Pence preaches the need for national unity while he and the White House continue transparently to exploit what they believe is the political value of heightening division.

But even here, Trump couldn't help but jumping in to make clear that he told Pence to do this, relishing stamping Pence as the toady he no doubt is.

Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump

I asked @VP Pence to leave stadium if any players kneeled, disrespecting our country. I am proud of him and @SecondLady Karen.

2:16 PM - Oct 8, 2017

If you were to plot it as story dialog it reads ...

Pence: I took this step based on my firm conviction ...

Trump: I told my boy Pence to do this.

Admittedly, for Pence it serves as a minor cosmic justice. It reminds us what we already know. In Trumpland, everyone gets hurt. No one emerges with any dignity intact. He's that ravening maw of ego and appetite and above all else unquenchable need and he has the country by the throat. Josh Marshall


#5 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-10-08 04:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

No one emerges with any dignity intact.

Pence certainly doesn't.

#6 | Posted by TedBaxter at 2017-10-08 04:38 PM | Reply

So Mikey was a good little boy and did what his daddy told him to do, if the Dotard is to be believed..which is a stretch. Regardless, it makes Pence look weak. Funny stuff.

#7 | Posted by HeeHaw at 2017-10-08 04:43 PM | Reply

He posts on Twitter minutes after walking out? Publicity stunt.

#8 | Posted by Pirate at 2017-10-08 05:03 PM | Reply

#3, if anything, Trump is starting to usher in totalitarianism. It's no doubt to me that he has a god complex.

#9 | Posted by Pirate at 2017-10-08 05:08 PM | Reply

Vice President Mike Pence uses Colts for political purposes

INDIANAPOLIS – North Korea and its nukes can wait. The White House has declared war on the NFL. And on the First Amendment.

Two weeks after President Trump decreed that NFL players who kneel during the national anthem should be fired, Vice President Mike Pence walked out of Lucas Oil Stadium on Sunday after about 20 members of the San Francisco 49ers knelt during the anthem. The 49ers were in town to play the Indianapolis Colts.

Pence was in town to upstage Peyton Manning.

What, you think he didn't know the 49ers would kneel on Sunday? Pence knew. The 49ers are the one franchise, the only franchise, that have had at least one player kneel before every game since Colin Kaepernick was the first to do it in the 2016 preseason. Kaepernick played for the 49ers, of course. Last week, following Trump's unpatriotic assertion that he would fire someone for exercising their First Amendment rights, more than half the San Francisco roster knelt.

Pence knew.

Hell, the media members that follow Pence were told before the game not to bother leaving their vans and enter Lucas Oil Stadium, according to a tweet from NBC News Vaughn Hillyard. They wouldn't be there long, because Pence wouldn't be there long.

This was planned.

The bigger part of me is stunned that the President – and now Vice President – of the United States would take such a public position against the one of the greatest rights the U.S. Constitution grants us: freedom of speech. It's one thing for you to rip NFL players for kneeling during the anthem. They have the right to kneel, and you have the right to hate it. You have the right to boo. You have the right to rise from your seat and leave the game. So many of my family members fought overseas, some of them not coming back completely whole, for you to have that right. So, boo. So, leave. You don't have my agreement, but you have my support.

But when the top two elected leaders of our democracy decide that political speech – in this case, a silent and non-violent form of political speech – is unacceptable to the point of walking out of the game where it happens, well, that's chilling. That's the kind of oppressive nonsense our ancestors were leaving when they crossed the Atlantic Ocean hundreds of years ago.

As an aside, how much taxpayer money did Pence waste to make this grandiose statement of political oppression, anyway? He traveled here with his usual contingent of aides and bodyguards, and he didn't fly standby on Delta. Chew on that for just a minute.

#10 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-10-08 05:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2



#10 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-10-08 05:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

454 words, 2573 characters of cork-and-paste.

#11 | Posted by nullifidian at 2017-10-08 05:13 PM | Reply

You counted them?

#12 | Posted by TedBaxter at 2017-10-08 05:17 PM | Reply

Well, maybe now Trump ought to fire Pence.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-08 05:21 PM | Reply

454 words, 2573 characters

From the Indianapolis Star, the paper that used to be owned by Dan Quayle's family, the Pulliams.

Flaming liberal rag, obviously.

#14 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-10-08 05:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I am proud of him and @SecondLady Karen.

Does that make her SLOTUS?

#15 | Posted by REDIAL at 2017-10-08 05:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Guess Pence needs a safe space to watch NFL.

#16 | Posted by Pirate at 2017-10-08 05:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What a turd. When he spoke at Notre Dame's commencement, he was angry at protestors who walked out. Now I guess since he's in the Adult Day Care Center, so it's ok for him to do it.

#17 | Posted by e1g1 at 2017-10-08 06:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If I had known in 2016 that all it took for Pence to walk out was to kneel, I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE WHOLE EFFING COUNTRY TO DO IT.

#18 | Posted by e1g1 at 2017-10-08 06:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why play the Anthem at a football game? Isn't it disrespectful to exploit the Anthem as part of a profit making entertainment event? It's hardly a solemn event.

In any event, what the players do is between them and their employers and contract lawyers.

#19 | Posted by TenMile at 2017-10-08 08:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Screw: Jobs; Healthcare; NAFTA & Wall promises; infrastructure spending; Puerto Rico; Virgin Islands; Florida; Houston...

Lets focus on: Police, flag and anthem worship; more military spending; war with Iran and North Korea...

#20 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-10-08 08:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

For those who don't know, Peyton Manning was honored this weekend in Indianapolis. He had a statue unveiling yesterday and his number was retired and placed into the Colt's Ring of Honor at halftime today. Peyton is revered in Indiana because he helped ignite youth football all over the state in addition to his stellar play for the Colts during the decade plus he was here. He's the namesake of one of our largest Children's Hospitals and donated $10 million to get it started.

This was supposed to be Peyton's weekend and Pence decided to crash it and pull his divisive stunt. You're going to be hard-pressed to find many supporters of what he did today. The local (hardly flaming liberals) and national media are excoriating Pence. No one else seemed to leave the stadium when the Vice President did today and the capacity crowd that stayed were treated to a damn enjoyable game which went into overtime and was ended by another lead-pipe cinch for the Hall of Fame, Adam Vinatieri, to the delight of Manning and every other Colt fan or player.

#21 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-10-08 09:02 PM | Reply

What a snowflake. So does this mean if our soldiers find something offensive while on duty, they can walk out to?

#22 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-10-08 09:09 PM | Reply

It's all BS, driven by the media and folks looking to make some sort of political point. I was at the game, and personally, I like to stand and sing the anthem. That said, I couldn't tell you if anyone ever kneels because I'm looking at the flag. People that notice are looking for reasons to be offended.

#23 | Posted by JimDuncan at 2017-10-08 09:32 PM | Reply

Its not like Pence paid for his ticket like the real fans,sacrifice is cheap when the taxpayer pays the shot for his convictions.

#24 | Posted by Scotty at 2017-10-08 09:34 PM | Reply

You're going to be hard-pressed to find many supporters of what he did today.

If I was at an NFL game to honor a legend and a politician made the event about him, I'd be pissed off whether that politician was on my side or the other side.

#25 | Posted by rcade at 2017-10-08 10:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2


By 8 p.m. Sunday, the top five stories on the Indianapolis Star website were:

• VP Pence leaves Colts game after 49ers players kneel
• Swarens: Throw the flag on Mike Pence's walkout
• VP Mike Pence tweets same picture from Colts game
• Doyel: Pence uses Colts for political purposes
• Veterans, activists respond to Pence's Colts walkout

No popular headline about Manning's number 18 retired by the Colts or his induction into the team's ring of honor. Judge for yourself about the motives of Pence, a native Hoosier, at the glorious celebration of one of the greatest athletes in the history of the state. He could have stayed away from Lucas Oil Stadium on Sunday. It's a disgrace Pence copied his boss and hogged a spotlight he had no business even sharing, never mind owning.

But the vice president of the United States slapped Manning and Pence's beloved Colts in the face. Whether he's a puppet for the president or his own man, Pence trumped a day that belonged to the greatest football hero the state of Indiana has ever seen, and he did it for political purposes. He stole Manning's last great day as a Colt. Mike Pence will have to live with himself for that. Peter King - SI

#26 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-10-08 11:19 PM | Reply

The President and the Vice President are forcing your employer to punish you for peaceful exercise of your free speech rights.

Sounds like a constitutional violation.

#28 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-10-09 01:08 AM | Reply

#27 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Free speech is for all. But I thought he was there for the game instead of being "trapped" for the game. Guess it was just to sheet on other's speech huh? He knew it was going to happen.

What's amazing is that this stunt happened at all. It was totally a contrived and planned political stunt to work up the base. Take away from Korea, Las Vegas, Puerto Rico and all the other important stuff going on.

And actually I have to ask - did he pay?

#29 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-10-09 01:10 AM | Reply

Mike Pence's NFL Walkout Was a Cheap, Transparent Stunt
For which taxpayers picked up the tab.

Pence used the NFL to star in a cheap, transparent political stunt. The narrative Pence tried -- and failed -- to sell was that he showed up at the Colts-49ers game in Indianapolis and then supposedly left in a huff after being shocked -- SHOCKED! -- at seeing the San Francisco 49ers kneel. After assumedly taking a whiff of his personal smelling salts, he immediately released a statement that magically was already prepared, which read in part, "I left today's Colts game because @POTUS and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem."

Forget for a moment that this is a vice president who fronts for a Commander-in-Chief that mocked a POW and insulted the family of a slain solider, yet blathers about "disrespect." Forget that he just used "soldiers, Flag, and National Anthem" for his own form of protest (irony!). Forget even his bizarre capitalization of "Flag."

It's not what happened. It's how it happened. This was staged: a taxpayer subsidized stunt aimed at attacking dissenting black athletes. It was revealed in record time to be yet another toxic effort by this administration to divide people along racial lines and distract us from a train wreck of an administration, described by Senator Bob Corker as "an adult day care center" that looks after a big orange baby.

This was amateur hour fraud. It was Gulf of Tonkin for idiots: a ham handed effort to isolate people brave enough to dissent in the face of the most powerful people in the world and raise issues of racism that this administration is too craven to discuss. It's also very disturbing. The very week Sarah Huckabee Sanders spoke about Trump's "respect for the 1st Amendment," we had a staged spectacle with the highest levels of government attempting to intimidate and coerce people to not exercise those rights. It's disgusting and another example of Pence's degradation, his Faustian bargain with this administration.

#30 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-10-09 06:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Pence and his grandstanding would be more convincing if he didn't work for a man who had gone on record as being anti-POW. When he demands that Trump apologize to McCain and every other American POW ever, he can worry about the NFL. Until then this military hater needs to STFU.

#31 | Posted by Sully at 2017-10-09 09:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Glad we could pay for Pence's protest.

#32 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-10-09 10:28 AM | Reply

Here i am, a liberal. Eating my stake bloody, watching American foorball on a sunday wondering what those shiffty Russians are up to.

While our "conservative" V.P. walks out on a football game.

I am living in a bazzaro world where i am my father 30 years ago and my dad has become some sort of crazy conspiracy nut.

#33 | Posted by Alaskan_Guy at 2017-10-09 12:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

so the players can exercise free speech / expression, but the VP can't?

#34 | Posted by Maverick at 2017-10-09 05:26 PM | Reply

#34 The VP is merely a vessel for Trump's free speech, on this one.
Think of Pence as an animatronic Tweet.

And of course Trump can order his VP to play the fool!
That's not the issue.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-09 05:30 PM | Reply

When Pence was commencement speaker RECENTLY at Notre Dame, he was angry at protestors who walked out. He couldn't let his hypocrisy even ferment a little over time. It had to be served early.

#36 | Posted by e1g1 at 2017-10-09 10:18 PM | Reply

Gotta feel for poor ole Mike Pence.

All he wanted to do is oppress women and gay people. Maybe electrocute a few of them until they either grew a penis or turned straight.

The poor fella had no idea he would end up being a pawn in donnie dealmakers racist morality shtick.

#37 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-10-10 04:36 AM | Reply

The VP's protest seems kind of shallow and hypocritical when it never bothered him that people in the crowd stay seated, don't take their hats off, wear the flag as clothing, and don't even know the words to the anthem. kneeling in protest to bring attention to injustice is far more respectful of the flag and what it stands for. I wonder if the stars and bars flying from pickup trucks in the parking lot bothered him?

#38 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-10-10 12:29 PM | Reply

"don't even know the words to the anthem."

And everybody in the stadium turned to me and asked, "Jose, can you see?"

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-10-10 12:32 PM | Reply

Just wtf was wrong with my post that said, Pence has just as much right to free speech (protest) as the players do?

#40 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-10-10 03:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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