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Saturday, September 16, 2017

Former Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke must revise his master's thesis or risk losing his degree in security studies from the Naval Postgraduate School, according to documents CNN's KFile obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request. The school arrived at its decision after a lengthy investigation triggered by a May CNN KFile report. The story revealed that Clarke's 2013 thesis, entitled "Making U.S. security and privacy rights compatible," contained language lifted from numerous sources, including multiple ACLU reports, the 9/11 Commission Report, The Washington Post, former President George W. Bush's book "Decision Points" and others. In all the instances KFile found, Clarke credited sources with a footnote but did not indicate with quotation marks that he was using the language verbatim.

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Really? Is this news now? Sounds more like a hit piece or foundation for dirt on the Sheriff. CNN has lost all objectivity now.

#1 | Posted by boaz at 2017-09-16 10:10 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyy making a cop be honest is a GOOD thing unless you're like Boaz.

#2 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-09-16 10:23 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

--CNN has lost all objectivity now

That happened a long time ago. Now they are just a PR agency for the Democrat Party.

#3 | Posted by nullifidian at 2017-09-16 10:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's called plagiarism.
For which yanking this boob!s degree is an entirely appropriate institutional response.
More to the point, why is he being given a Mulligan?

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-09-16 10:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ever done a master's thesis?

Stuff like this happens all the time. Him taking the material isn't the point. The college knew what he intended to do. But for a CNN hack person to actually file a FOIA for this is stupid.

#5 | Posted by boaz at 2017-09-16 10:55 AM | Reply

"Stuff like this happens all the time."

And when it's discovered, degrees are rescinded all the time.

Why should this guy get a pass others don't? Because he's black, or because he's a soldier?

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-09-16 11:06 AM | Reply

Boaz is the guy who goes way out of his way to post stories of Black people behaving badly.

Now, he runs to the rescue of a Black guy (first time I recall seeing that) because the black guy is a Trumphumping Republican, and now Boaz is questioning CNN's credibility?

Brother, please!

#7 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2017-09-16 11:25 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Cmon oldwhiskey fart,

You even you have to understand this is a nothing burger. It's just partisan politics with a so called objective news outlet.

And when it's discovered, degrees are rescinded all the time.

I don't agree. The honor committee saw that and ruled effectively. This was a clear case of an unintended mistake, not the hit piece CNN thought it would be.

Boaz is the guy who goes way out of his way to post stories of Black people behaving badly.

How about talking about the piece instead of about me? But I understand, you really don't have anything else, so you have to change the subject to me.

It's not hard to "go out of my way" to post stories of blacks behaving badly and no one holding them accountable for it. Yes, the only thing that's going to change black behavior is black culture.

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2017-09-16 12:18 PM | Reply

#6
Why should this guy get a pass others don't? Because he's black, or because he's a soldier?

Because he is an authoritarian Trumphumper of course.

#9 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2017-09-16 12:19 PM | Reply

Ever done a master's thesis?
Stuff like this happens all the time. Him taking the material isn't the point. The college knew what he intended to do. But for a CNN hack person to actually file a FOIA for this is stupid.
#5 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Master's thesis? Check.
Don't recall anyone in my cohort, or anyone I ever heard about, getting a Mulligan for plagiarism, though.
Educational standards must really suck in your neck of the woods.
What you're really whining about, of course, is that this loser got caught.
SAD!

#10 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-09-16 12:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

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Getting an advanced degree requires discipline. This guy didn't have it. His laziness reduces the value of everyone else's achievement.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2017-09-16 12:28 PM | Reply

It's not hard to "go out of my way" to post stories of blacks behaving badly and no one holding them accountable for it...Boaz

And yet you scour the foreign press to report black bad behavior on other continents all the time. But you are jumping in to defend the virginity of this guy. Why no "accountability" for this one black fella? Do you think he is somehow unable to perform up to academic standards and norms?

Why might that be?

#12 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2017-09-16 12:30 PM | Reply

"But for a CNN hack person to actually file a FOIA for this is stupid...Boaz

Did you ever call anybody out for demanding Obama's college transcripts? I dont think so.
Wonder why.

#13 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2017-09-16 12:34 PM | Reply

Too bad he doesn't wear his uniform anymore. Pretty sure one could find a quotation mark button pretty easily in either silver or gold.

#14 | Posted by TedBaxter at 2017-09-16 12:36 PM | Reply

Boaz,

Have you ever written a thesis for an advanced degree?

This is far from a nothing burger. Plagiarism is a major, potentially career ending for an academic, faux pas.

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2017-09-16 12:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Did he say he was Native American?

#16 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-09-16 01:34 PM | Reply

#15 | Posted by jpw a
Ask Mike Barnacle.

#17 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-09-16 01:36 PM | Reply

Plagiarism is, simply put, theft.

#18 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-09-16 01:37 PM | Reply

#16

I expect all remaining Trump supporters to come out at Halloween.

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2017-09-16 01:39 PM | Reply

Ever done a master's thesis?

Stuff like this happens all the time. Him taking the material isn't the point. The college knew what he intended to do. But for a CNN hack person to actually file a FOIA for this is stupid.

#5 | Posted by boaz at 2017-09-16 10:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

I betcha don't feel that way about Joe Biden ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh???

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-09-16 02:04 PM | Reply

#17 do you have a point?

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2017-09-16 04:23 PM | Reply

The only people that care are shills for either side.

#22 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-09-16 06:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--CNN has lost all objectivity now
That happened a long time ago. Now they are just a PR agency for the Democrat Party.

#3 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Or as those in touch with reality call them: fact based news.

#23 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-09-16 06:56 PM | Reply

Did he say he was Native American?
#16 | POSTED BY FEDERALIST

Don't know.
He does pretend to be a hilarioypsly butch, overcompensating "cowboy," though.
Beyond getting him audition with the Village People, I can't imagine what such a phony move would be about.

#24 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-09-16 07:29 PM | Reply

"Really? Is this news now? Sounds more like a hit piece or foundation for dirt on the Sheriff. CNN has lost all objectivity now."

Boaz is disappointed that plagiarism isn't considered morally acceptable.
#MAGA

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-16 07:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Have you ever written a thesis for an advanced degree?

Yes, I have. In fact, I'm working on my 3rd post graduate certificate now. And I do hold a master's degree.

The man didn't intend to make his mistake. The ethics board saw that and correctly took appropriate action. You just made the college didn't overreact.

#27 | Posted by boaz at 2017-09-16 08:37 PM | Reply

"The man didn't intend to make his mistake."

Who does intend to make mistakes???

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-16 10:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The man didn't intend to make his mistake." - #27 | Posted by "cpl." boaz at 2017-09-16 08:37 PM

He plagiarized but didn't intend to plagiarize?

That must be some new variation in the "party of personal responsibility" "values."

#29 | Posted by Hans at 2017-09-16 10:23 PM | Reply

There may have been as many as 47 instances of improperly annotated footnotes. The FORMER sheriff claims the omissions were "formatting errors." I call B.S.!

www.outsidethebeltway.com

See, BOAZ? It is not difficult to offer citations if you believe they're important.

#30 | Posted by john47 at 2017-09-17 07:43 AM | Reply

First, he didn't plagiarize. He did credit his work. It's just how he formatted it.

So please liberals, stop saying he plagiarized, he didn't. He gave credit...

Get it right. This is a non news story unless you hate the Sheriff, like liberals do.

#31 | Posted by boaz at 2017-09-17 03:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So please liberals, stop saying he plagiarized, he didn't. He gave credit...

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-17 03:24 PM | Reply

"First, he didn't plagiarize. He did credit his work. It's just how he formatted it." - #31 | Posted by "cpl." boaz at 2017-09-17 03:16 PM

Only in the world of "cpl." boaz does a formatting issue potentially result in losing one's degree ("...risk losing his degree in security studies from the Naval Postgraduate School.").

We might have been born at night, "cpl." boaz.

But it wasn't last night.

#33 | Posted by Hans at 2017-09-17 05:41 PM | Reply

According to the LA Times: "A July letter published Friday by CNN shows the school found a violation and gave Clarke 100 days to make revisions. The letter from Cmdr. Paul Rasmussen, dean of students, says the violation was "not a result of any intentional deception."

You can't plagiarize if it isn't an "intentional taking of another's ideas and passing them off as your own."

#34 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-09-17 06:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Get it right. This is a non news story unless you hate the Sheriff, like liberals do.

#31 | Posted by boaz

Defenders of the Bill of Rights (as you took an oath to be) would have a problem with his violations of the 4th, 5th, and 8th Amendments. Oh, I forgot, the only Amendment that matters to you guys is the 2nd.

#35 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2017-09-18 01:33 AM | Reply

This is news for the left, if they can take down any individual who is right it is big news for them. What will be amazing is all the crying and whining they will do when the shoe is on the other foot.

All this administration bashing, trump hating, family hating will make full circle when the left get in office and they will make up every excuse about how it is disrespectful and un-American.

#36 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-09-18 03:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

All this administration bashing, trump hating, family hating will make full circle...

It's making full circle now. "O'Bummer" and "Moochelle" probably find it amusing.

#37 | Posted by REDIAL at 2017-09-18 07:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#37

Among certain people, a circle means something else entirely.

#38 | Posted by Zed at 2017-09-18 08:18 AM | Reply

You can't plagiarize if it isn't an "intentional taking of another's ideas and passing them off as your own."

Plagiarism doesn't require intent. One can commit plagiarism unintentionally, but this would be a sign of sloppiness in and of itself.

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2017-09-18 10:59 AM | Reply

#36 more non-partisan partisanship.

You never fail to disappoint.

#40 | Posted by jpw at 2017-09-18 11:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"the violation was "not a result of any intentional deception."

IOW, the excuse is, he got all the way to his masters theses without ever learning how to footnote.

Is the assumption at this point he never had to footnote before, or they'd given him a pass in every prior instance?

#41 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-09-18 12:23 PM | Reply

"The only people that care are shills for either side."

NW

thread should have ended there.

But there is too much drama associated with this. There are probably thousands of plagiarized thesis written every year.

But this guy is special....

#42 | Posted by eberly at 2017-09-18 12:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Stuff like this happens all the time. Him taking the material isn't the point. The college knew what he intended to do. But for a CNN hack person to actually file a FOIA for this is stupid.

#5 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Brought to you by the people who spent time discussing Obama's elitist taste in spicy mustard versus regular mustard.

#43 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-09-18 12:35 PM | Reply

One can commit plagiarism unintentionally

Um, no, you cant. To not cite is plagiarism. He did cite. He was not trying to plagiarize.

#44 | Posted by boaz at 2017-09-18 06:47 PM | Reply

RCADE,

You changed the title incorrectly and to something that is false. They didn't say he plagiarized.

In all the instances KFile found, Clarke credited sources with a footnote but did not indicate with quotation marks that he was using the language verbatim.

That is the very definition of not plagiarizing.

#45 | Posted by boaz at 2017-09-18 06:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

It sounds more like sloppy scholarship than plagiarism. It sounds like the people overseeing his thesis did a poor job. In either case, David Clarke needs to fix it or lose the degree.

#46 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-09-18 06:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#45 | Posted by boaz
More fake news. Russians fault.

#47 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-09-18 06:58 PM | Reply

#46

Agreed.

#48 | Posted by boaz at 2017-09-18 07:11 PM | Reply

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