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President Donald Trump again drew a parallel between white supremacists and counter protesters on Thursday, drawing a mild rebuke from South Carolina's Tim Scott, the only black Republican in the Senate who met with Trump to discuss racial issues a day earlier. ... Trump has come under criticism from Republicans as well as Democrats that his repeated assertion that both sides in the demonstrations were worthy of condemnation, rather than emphasizing condemnation for hate groups, confers legitimacy on white supremacists and risks emboldening racist organizations. That included Scott, who said he requested the meeting Wednesday because he was concerned that Trump had compromised his moral authority with his remarks.

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The only things Trump knows about Antifa were told to him by Nazi apologists who think fighting Nazis is as bad as being Nazis.

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Both sides were badddddddddd. It does take at least 2 people with opposing views to fight.

#1 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-09-14 06:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Sniper... We are talking about standing up to Nazi's here.

So was the United States and our Allies "badddddddddd" for standing up to and fighting the Nazi's the first time?

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-09-14 06:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

It does take at least 2 people with opposing views to fight.
#1 | Posted by Sniper

It sounds like you've never been in a fight. It only takes one person.

#3 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2017-09-14 09:38 PM | Reply

Sniper thinks there is good nazi's

#4 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-09-15 02:15 AM | Reply

"a lot of people are saying and people have actually written"

Same ol' story, same ol' song and dance.

#5 | Posted by TheTom at 2017-09-15 06:28 AM | Reply

Sniper is right. Nazis are vile, but the violence would not have occurred if the Antifa people had not come looking for a fight.

#6 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2017-09-15 07:33 AM | Reply | Funny: 6 | Newsworthy 2

#6

Nazis always come looking for a fight. It's the whole point.

That little girl who got killed wasn't in a fight. The man that killed her wasn't either. That's why her murder was cold blooded.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2017-09-15 08:22 AM | Reply

#6

Nazis always come looking for a fight. It's the whole point.

That little girl who got killed wasn't in a fight. The man that killed her wasn't either. That's why her murder was cold blooded.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2017-09-15 08:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

If you guys are patient enough one of them will post a 30 second clip from Germany with 8 or 10 people chanting something about "no USA at all..." to justify nazis running people over with they car.

It's just free speech. Stop trying to silence them.

I love that one.

#9 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-09-15 08:54 AM | Reply

Both sides we're bad. I'm not sure why that is disputable to any rational person.

#10 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2017-09-15 09:01 AM | Reply

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Both sides we're bad. I'm not sure why that is disputable to any rational person.

#10 | POSTED BY JAMESGELLIOTT AT

Yap.

God damn those people.

Getting ran over and trying to stifle free speech like that.

#11 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-09-15 09:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"The only Thing necessary for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing"

News to the NAZI apologists. Everyone opposing the Nazis and their sympathisers are the good men regardless of whether you approve of their methods.

The Trump -------- are upset because the good men did something.

#12 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-09-15 09:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

Both sides were bad in 911. The Saudis were not given a halal meal as requested and things escalated from there. Forgive and forget.

#13 | Posted by bored at 2017-09-15 12:27 PM | Reply

#1it only takes one bad side to attack.

Idiot.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2017-09-15 12:39 PM | Reply

#6 how's it feel to be a nazi apologist? Or are you more comfortable with being a white supremacist supporter because nazis are bad?

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2017-09-15 12:41 PM | Reply

Everyone that kicked a Nazis ass should get a medal.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2017-09-15 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

MRSILENCE, I have never seen anyone defend the person who drove through crowded people.

I have seen people, (Snoofy for example) defend masked people, who showed up with implements of violence and bottles of piss attacking people who disagreed with them including police.

#17 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2017-09-15 04:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

I said that?

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-15 04:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

people who disagreed with them including police.

#17 | POSTED BY JAMESGELLIOTT AT 2017-09-15 04:05 PM

Thats usually how people who want to excuse white supremacists describe them. Antifa doesn't "disagree" with Fascists. Fascists are evil and deserve no forum for speech. Fascism is not just an opposing viewpoint. It is evil pure and simple.

#19 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-09-15 04:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I said that?" - Snoofy

You've defended ANTIFA's actions repeatedly. Do you deny that?

"Fascism is not just an opposing viewpoint. It is evil pure and simple." - Hatter

I agree. But they still have the right to PEACEFULLY assemble. And they still have to right to speak freely.

In Charlottesville, it didn't turn into a riot until people in black masks with implements of violence and bottles of piss showed up.

I disagree with both. Do you believe the actions of one of those parties is acceptable?

#20 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2017-09-15 05:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You've defended ANTIFA's actions repeatedly. Do you deny that?"

I deny that I've defended assault.

You've defended the neonazi and KKK actions, yeah? Their speeches and armed marches? But not when they assault people, right?

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-15 05:57 PM | Reply

"In Charlottesville, it didn't turn into a riot until people in black masks with implements of violence and bottles of piss showed up."

Remind me, who rioted?
Just antifa or did anyone else?

I guess you're saying Antifa started it, so they are worse, right?

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-15 06:07 PM | Reply

"In Charlottesville, it didn't turn into a riot until people in black masks with implements of violence and bottles of piss showed up."

They showed up angry because of what happened the night before. Or are you already forgetting what happened the night before?

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-09-15 06:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"I guess you're saying Antifa started it, so they are worse, right?" - Snoofy.

Dude, either you can't read or you can't comprehend. I've repeatedly called both reprehensible.

"You've defended the neonazi and KKK actions, yeah? Their speeches and armed marches? But not when they assault people, right?" - Snoofy

I'm going to defend any groups right to free speech until the point that they break the law and start inhibiting other peoples rights. I'm Pro-Rights.

Are you smart enough to understand the nuance of my position or do I need to explain it in more depth for you?

I will repeat the quote again, "Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose." You proved yourself unable to comprehend that a few weeks ago. Have you put some thought into it and now understand the meaning of the quote?

#24 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2017-09-15 06:48 PM | Reply

"Are you smart enough to understand the nuance of my position or do I need to explain it in more depth for you?"

Explain in depth what is the takeaway is from your comment "it didn't turn into a riot until people in black masks with implements of violence and bottles of piss showed up."

I'm missing the nuance there, unless it's that antifa are worse because they started it, which is the only thing I can think you're trying to say with that.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-15 06:58 PM | Reply

I never placed any value on who was worse. It's in your imagination.

I did state the fact that it didn't turn into a riot until antifa showed up.

I've repeatedly said both were reprehensible, but you're to blind to see it.

#26 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2017-09-15 08:47 PM | Reply

Jimmy G nazi sympathizing again, SMDH!

#27 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-09-15 11:06 PM | Reply

Using violence to silence speech is fascist, whether it's a neo-nazi driving his ------ sports car into a bunch of protesters, or a bunch of millenials breaking windows and pissing on the elderly because they think a never-Trump Jew is a "Nazi" and as such shouldn't be allowed to speak.

Perfectly fine to call out both extremes. Anyone who objects to calling out violence as a means to silence speech may as well be a member of ISIS.

#28 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-09-16 08:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#28 Being a Nazi is also anti-American. I d put Nazis and those who attempt to shut them up on the same moral plane. Yes, both are wrong, but on the scale of how wrong a thing can be they aren't very close to one another. "Calling out both sides" without acknowledging the difference in scale serves to legitimize Nazis by making them no worse than someone who attempts to silence them.

#29 | Posted by JOE at 2017-09-16 08:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

*i "dont" put

#30 | Posted by JOE at 2017-09-16 08:44 AM | Reply

"...but on the scale of how wrong a thing can be they aren't very close to one another." - #29 | Posted by JOE at 2017-09-16 08:43 AM

Like the difference between a free beer and a free puppy.

"Calling out both sides" without acknowledging the difference in scale serves to legitimize Nazis by making them no worse than someone who attempts to silence them."

You win today's Internet with that comment, Joe.

#31 | Posted by Hans at 2017-09-16 08:47 AM | Reply

There is no excuse for violence, and that is all being done here, for shame.

#32 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-09-16 09:10 AM | Reply

Ok, how about this. On a badness scale of 1-100; Nazis are a 100, Antifa a 99.

Nazis hold anti-American views and so does Antifa.

#33 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2017-09-16 09:13 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Both groups have the right to peacefully assemble.

#34 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2017-09-16 09:14 AM | Reply

"Calling out both sides" without acknowledging the difference in scale serves to legitimize Nazis by making them no worse than someone who attempts to silence them.
#29 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2017-09-16 08:43 AM

True, so far it's 1-0 Nazis vs Antifa, technically an infinite magnitude more murder on the Nazi side. Antifa needs to swap out their pee bottles with something more potent.

#35 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-09-16 09:15 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

"I did state the fact that it didn't turn into a riot until antifa showed up."

If this is different than blaming the antifa for starting the riot, please explain how.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-16 02:01 PM | Reply

Did the USA ally with the Communists or the Fascists in WW2? Asking for a friend.

#37 | Posted by hamburglar at 2017-09-16 02:02 PM | Reply

SNOOFY, I don't know who threw the first punch so I'm not placing blame.

But what indisputable is that Antifa showed up wearing masks bearing implements for violence.

#38 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2017-09-16 02:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#38

Nazis are existentially violent.

#39 | Posted by Zed at 2017-09-16 02:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Communists and anarchists are existentially violent.

#40 | Posted by nullifidian at 2017-09-16 02:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

I don't identify with Communists and anarchists. I don't identify with Nazis. I don't identify with you.

#41 | Posted by Zed at 2017-09-16 03:01 PM | Reply

Zed Haggard identifies with Ted Haggard.

#42 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-09-16 03:27 PM | Reply

There were honorable, peaceful anti-Nazi protesters present.

Trump and many here are lumping them into the same boat of Antifa, and worse, Nazis.

Please acknowledge some nuance.

#43 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2017-09-16 04:11 PM | Reply

"But what indisputable is that Antifa showed up wearing masks bearing implements for violence."

That's equally true of the Nazis, carrying rifles and torches.

Funny how you don't mention it, ever.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-16 07:20 PM | Reply

"But what indisputable is that Antifa showed up wearing masks bearing implements for violence."
That's equally true of the Nazis
#44 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2017-09-16 07:20 PM

Nice job equating the counter protestors to the Nazis, POS Nazi sympathizer.

#45 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-09-16 07:33 PM | Reply

"counter protesters" is more than just "antifa"

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-16 07:34 PM | Reply

Nazi scum.

#47 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-09-16 07:34 PM | Reply

"So was the United States and our Allies "badddddddddd" for standing up to and fighting the Nazi's the first time?"

Stalin's Soviets are largely to credit with defeating the Nazis.

It doesn't make them good people any more than it makes Antifa good people.

#48 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-09-16 07:35 PM | Reply

"Stalin's Soviets are largely to credit with defeating the Nazis.
It doesn't make them good people any more than it makes Antifa good people."

Maybe we are the bad guys.
We could have let the Nazis and the Communists eliminate each other.
Instead we teamed up with the Communists.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-16 07:37 PM | Reply

Snooty says neo-nazis and counter protestors like Heather Heyer are basically equal and use the same tactics.

White supremacy on full display.

#50 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-09-16 07:37 PM | Reply

It's funny that you're trying so hard.

Keep at it!

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-16 07:39 PM | Reply

"Maybe we are the bad guys. We could have let the Nazis and the Communists eliminate each other. Instead we teamed up with the Communists."

That's actually a really good point. The Nazis were going to kill based on selective criteria. The socialists were going to kill anyone who threatened socialism. In the end, the Nazis killed about 20 million. Depnding on how you do your accounting, the Socialists killed more to far, far more than the Nazis did.

#53 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-09-16 08:01 PM | Reply

Madbomber, you are historically correct

National Socialism (Fascists) killed a lot of people in the century.

Communist/anarchists (Antifa) killed way more.

Both are reprehensible. Given the death toll of the last century, Antifa might Move up on the historical society of evilness.

#55 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2017-09-16 08:51 PM | Reply

"Given the death toll of the last century, Antifa might Move up on the historical society of evilness."

So I was in the right ballpark when I said,

"I'm missing the nuance there, unless it's that antifa are worse because they started it, which is the only thing I can think you're trying to say with that."

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-16 09:24 PM | Reply

"Depnding on how you do your accounting, the Socialists killed more to far, far more than the Nazis did."

Well, isn't this really just because we teamed up with the Socialists to kill the Nazis?

Nazis really never got a toehold outside of Germany. But since we helped the Socialists, they got a lot more countries under their sway.

So these sorts of comparisons tend to over look the fact that while the socialists may have killed millions, we helped them do it, by killing the Nazis that were trying to kill the Socialists.

One thing though. Does this mean the Nazis weren't Socialists?

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-16 09:27 PM | Reply

"Checkmate atheists."

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-16 10:18 PM | Reply

"One thing though. Does this mean the Nazis weren't Socialists?"

Dude.

"Nazi" is literally a German abbreviation for "National Socialist." In German.

You speak English, right?

#59 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-09-16 10:30 PM | Reply

""Nazi" is literally a German abbreviation for "National Socialist." In German." - #59 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-09-16 10:30 PM

Does this mean that North Korea is literally a democratic republic (Democratic People's Republic of Korea)?

#60 | Posted by Hans at 2017-09-16 10:34 PM | Reply

I mean that the Norks are your people. Yes.

Socialism doesn't work without boots to throats.

#61 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-09-16 10:43 PM | Reply

""Nazi" is literally a German abbreviation for "National Socialist." In German.
You speak English, right?"

I speak English and German.
But you didn't answer the question.
What's it mean to compare the Nazi body count to the Socialist body count if the Nazis were Socialists?
The Socialist body count must necessarily include the Nazi body count, under those rules.

Perhaps you'd like to take this moment to discuss why we aided the Socialists in their fight against the Socialists.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-16 10:44 PM | Reply

"Socialism doesn't work without boots to throats."

Must be why we aided the Socialists.

Oooh, I got it! Is it because FDR was a Socialist, so he helped the Socialists, in their fight against the Socialists?

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-16 10:46 PM | Reply

"Socialism doesn't work without boots to throats." - #61 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-09-16 10:43 PM

The largest construction project ever undertaken by humans is the US Interstate system.

Don't remember "boots to throats" used to build that socialistic project.

#64 | Posted by Hans at 2017-09-16 10:47 PM | Reply

Yes snoofy it is true that Nazis were not socialists. The socialists were the enemies of the Nazis and were sent to the camps before the Jews were. The Nazis went after socialists, communists, trade unionists, and then Jews. There name had nothing to do with their politics. They were right wingers through and through. There was not and is not a liberal among them.

#65 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-09-16 10:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

U-Va. board votes to remove Confederate plaques, ban open flames

CHARLOTTESVILLE -- The University of Virginia Board of Visitors voted unanimously Friday to remove plaques honoring the Confederacy and to ban open flames, following student demands made after a torchlight march by white supremacists and Nazi sympathizers last month.

www.washingtonpost.com

#66 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-09-16 11:13 PM | Reply

"Socialism doesn't work without boots to throats."

Now what would a military man know about putting boots to throats, when the day is done?

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-16 11:24 PM | Reply

It is just shocking how many here are defending the violence, it shows just how weird these people are in thought. For some reason they think their in the norm.

#68 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-09-16 11:25 PM | Reply

MB still spreading rwing myths about Nazis, I see.

#69 | Posted by Corky at 2017-09-16 11:25 PM | Reply

"It is just shocking how many here are defending the violence"

Lol, who is defending violence?

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-16 11:31 PM | Reply

The St. Louis Police Department lauded its officers on Twitter for showing "great restraint" and said "agitators" had damaged property during the protests on Friday.

After a group called Resist STL posted a video by a television station of police officers pushing an older woman and then stepping over her after she fell, the department tweeted on Saturday that she had "failed to obey officers' orders" and was charged with "interfering."

#71 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-09-16 11:43 PM | Reply

#71 more leftist "violence"

#72 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-09-16 11:44 PM | Reply

"Yes snoofy it is true that Nazis were not socialists."

But... Naxi is a German abbreviation for National Socialist!

Are you saying those honorable trustworthy Nazis were lying?

Or are YOU lying???

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-16 11:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'll ask again Snoofy are you a member of Antifa?

Do you support all their actions?

You never answered the last time I asked so be a big boy this time and tell us..

Why do you choose to not acknowledge Antifa as a hate group?

The posters on here and I, have already acknowledged the Nazis as a hate group but you turn a blind eye to it.

As you already know I defend freedom of assembly and everyone's right to free speech regardless of the fact if I agree with them or not when you silence one person, that leads to your own voice getting silenced later. Why is this concept to hard for you to understand?

Don't worry reading this thread your not the only one that doesn't understand that.

#74 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-09-17 09:56 AM | Reply

I'll ask again Snoofy are you a member of Antifa?

No.

Do you support all their actions?

No.

Why do you choose to not acknowledge Antifa as a hate group?

No.

The posters on here and I, have already acknowledged the Nazis as a hate group but you turn a blind eye to it.

No.

As you already know I defend freedom of assembly and everyone's right to free speech regardless of the fact if I agree with them or not when you silence one person, that leads to your own voice getting silenced later. Why is this concept to hard for you to understand?

No.

Don't worry reading this thread your not the only one that doesn't understand that.

No.

#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-17 02:13 PM | Reply

As you already know I defend freedom of assembly and everyone's right to free speech regardless of the fact if I agree with them or not when you silence one person, that leads to your own voice getting silenced later. Why is this concept to hard for you to understand?
No.#75 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

So you don't support these rights and why?

#76 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-09-17 02:23 PM | Reply

Why do you choose to not acknowledge Antifa as a hate group?
No.

Care to explain how they are not a hate group?

#77 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-09-17 02:24 PM | Reply

Care to define "hate group?"

#78 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-17 02:27 PM | Reply

"So you don't support these rights and why?"

No.

"Why is this concept to hard for you to understand?"

I'ts not.

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-17 02:28 PM | Reply

"I defend freedom of assembly and everyone's right to free speech"

Do you defend protesters being forcibly removed from Trump rallies, where they've freely assembled to speak their protest?

#80 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-17 02:29 PM | Reply

"So you don't support these rights and why?"
No.
"Why is this concept to hard for you to understand?"
It's not.

Does that mean you wish to silence all voices that differ from your own?

#81 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-09-17 02:31 PM | Reply

"Does that mean you wish to silence all voices that differ from your own?"

What would it matter if I wish to silence them, seeing as the First Amendment is about the government not being allowed to silence them?

Are you asking me if I would try to find a way to curtail their rights if I were in a position of government authority to do so?

Like, if I were to ban their right to carry open flames and weapons, would that be tantamount to silencing them?

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-17 02:33 PM | Reply

Care to define "hate group?"

#78 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

What's yours?

#83 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-09-17 02:35 PM | Reply

Does that mean you wish to silence all voices that differ from your own?

It is a straight forward question stop side stepping and answer..

#84 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-09-17 02:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I already answered, the answer was:
No.

#85 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-17 02:40 PM | Reply

No.

#85 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

No you answered with a question, and attempted to side step the answer. I appreciate that you finally answered.

So why are you advocating for a group that wants to silence another? That doesn't make sense if your answers is a no.

#86 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-09-17 02:45 PM | Reply

"So why are you advocating for a group that wants to silence another?"

I'm advocating for a group?

#87 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-17 02:46 PM | Reply

Let me put it this way:

When you support the KKK's right to free speech and free assembly, aren't you advocating for a hate group that wants to enact a racist agenda?

If you're not, then what are you advocating for?

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-17 02:50 PM | Reply

Yes! You have been.

I was pretty sure you were trolling, but in doing so you have been advocating for Antifa.

I have questioned you before on it so have others. Were you unaware that is how that was been seem?

Honestly, when you openly debate issues Snoofy your pretty good at it, even if you and I disagree I generally like the debate because you bring up interesting thoughts and perspectives.

When you troll it often makes it look like you support nonsense, I often wonder if that may be what you actually believe at moments.

#89 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-09-17 02:58 PM | Reply

If you're not, then what are you advocating for?

#88 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

I openly say I don't the Nazis message. I don't like antifa message either.

I do support both of their rights to spout their nonsense though.

I'm advocating for all to voice there descending views, or views that I do agree with. Either way all should be able to be heard regardless of the message.

#90 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-09-17 03:04 PM | Reply

"I do support both of their rights to spout their nonsense though."

Okay.
So what's your answer to your question,

"So why are you advocating for a group that wants to silence another?"

#91 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-17 03:22 PM | Reply

"I openly say I don't the Nazis message. I don't like antifa message either."

What is the antifa message?

#92 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-17 03:24 PM | Reply

It is openly to silence speech of any group they disagree with Snoofy.

Look up any of their sites and it outlines that they are anti-free speech and anti-government.

#93 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-09-17 03:44 PM | Reply

It's their right to say that's what they want. I disagree with there method as I disagree with the Nazis method. Neither has a right to violence towards the other. They can talk all they want.

#94 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-09-17 03:46 PM | Reply

"It is openly to silence speech of any group they disagree with Snoofy."

So long as they're not the government, why would that even be a problem?
Plenty of Homeowners Associations have similar rules in place.

#95 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-17 03:46 PM | Reply

"Look up any of their sites and it outlines that they are anti-free speech and anti-government."

Doesn't quite sound like a hate group to me.

#96 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-17 03:48 PM | Reply

What's your definition of a hate group then?

#97 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-09-17 04:56 PM | Reply

#95 So long as they're not the government, why would that even be a problem?
Plenty of Homeowners Associations have similar rules in place.

Because they do it by violence!

Last I checked most homeowners associations aren't a violent faction. Just petty. That and you have to join the to be part of the private group.

#98 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2017-09-17 05:06 PM | Reply

"Because they do it by violence!"

Then it's the violence that's the problem, which is separate from any free speech issue.

"What's your definition of a hate group then?"

I asked you that. You didn't provide one. Why should I?

#99 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-17 06:46 PM | Reply

"As you already know I defend freedom of assembly and everyone's right to free speech regardless of the fact if I agree with them or not when you silence one person, that leads to your own voice getting silenced later. Why is this concept to hard for you to understand?"

You came off as one of those who supported restricting the rights of the Neo-Nazis to covey their message. Don't let your progressive friends know that you're OK with Nazis having freedom of speech. They might throw pee on ou or something.

#100 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-09-17 08:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Throwing pee on Nazis and Antifa alike isn't silencing them, nor does it infringe on their Second oops I mean First Amendment rights.

Unless it's the cops doing the throwing, of course. Then it infringes on their right to peaceably assemble.

#101 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-17 09:32 PM | Reply

"Unless it's the cops doing the throwing, of course. Then it infringes on their right to peaceably assemble."

Antifa has yet to demonstrate their capacity to peaceably assemble.

#102 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-09-18 06:36 PM | Reply

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