Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Wednesday, September 13, 2017

Jack Goldsmith, The Atlantic: Donald Trump is testing the institution of the presidency unlike any of his 43 predecessors. We have never had a president so ill-informed about the nature of his office, so openly mendacious, so self-destructive, or so brazen in his abusive attacks on the courts, the press, Congress (including members of his own party), and even senior officials within his own administration. Trump is a Frankenstein's monster of past presidents' worst attributes: The news thus far is not all bad. The Constitution's checks and balances have largely stopped Trump from breaking the law. And while he has hurt his own administration, his successors likely won't repeat his self-destructive antics. The prognosis for the rest of our democratic culture is grimmer, however. Trump, in short, is wielding a Soprano touch on American institutions. "I'm --- King Midas in reverse here," Tony Soprano once told his therapist. "Everything I touch turns to ---."

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A long but sobering essay. It's fun to trash Trump. It's fun to ride his populist bandwagon. The long term effect of this all this fun on the body politic is not fun. It's depressing.

#1 | Posted by et_al at 2017-09-13 02:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I noticed something today while I was half listening to Morning Joe.

Everyone on the show was calling donnie dealmaker "the President." It's the same people who couldn't bring themselves to refer to the black guy that way.

They all just called him "Obama." 5 days a week for 8 years. Every. Single. One. Of. Them. It was like we didn't have a president in their eyes.

#2 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-09-13 09:27 AM | Reply

"...one, and only one, of our major parties has been going crazy for twenty years and is now having a full-fledged gibbering, I'm-The-Emperor-of-Antarctica breakdown. It is hard not to feel just a touch of schadenfreude about this. The Republicans have served up eight years of hatred and nihilism -- and now they are surprised to find they have inherited hatred and nihilism as they actually appear in the real world, not neatly blown-dry and smirking but red and orange and heaving, cursing and swearing and contemptuous."
Adam Gopnik

#3 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2017-09-13 10:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


I hold the opinion that many of Pres Trump's supporters like the chaos, inability and degradation that Pres Trump is bringing to the Presidency. I also hold the opinion that many Republicans look to Congress' inability to do anything substantial as a good thing because it works towards their ultimate goal of reducing Washington's power.


To those opinions, I offer the following observation: There is a determinable difference between an inability to govern (such as we see among the Republicans now), and the ability to govern but choosing to govern in small amounts.

 

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-09-13 10:20 AM | Reply

People like Goldsmith are so obsessed with being miserable and bitter it is really sad. Just move on and live your life, the world is not going to end because of Trump, you won't lose your house because of Trump, you won't get sick because of Trump, you won't lose your ability to make a living because of Trump (unless you are such a sour puss crybaby like Goldsmith that everyone around him needs him to go away) Holy crap, get a life already.

#5 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-09-13 10:49 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"People like Goldsmith are so obsessed with being miserable and bitter it is really sad. Just move on and live your life, the world is not going to end because of Trump"

the world is going to end because of OBAMA

sincerely
you, last year

#6 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2017-09-13 11:05 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 9

We destroyed the Presidency, allowing Donnie John to take the remains and defile them. Thanks for nothing "Conservatives"

#7 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-09-13 11:10 AM | Reply

"I hold the opinion that many of Pres Trump's supporters like the chaos, inability and degradation that Pres Trump is bringing to the Presidency"

Chaos is a ladder.

#8 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2017-09-13 11:10 AM | Reply


@#8 ... Chaos is a ladder. ...

But to where?

#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-09-13 11:21 AM | Reply

"the world is not going to end because of Trump, you won't lose your house because of Trump, you won't get sick because of Trump, you won't lose your ability to make a living because of Trum"

Each one of these assertions is open to question.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2017-09-13 11:24 AM | Reply

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Just move on and live your life

#5 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-09-13 10:49 AMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

You wouldn't do that if you saw your house being robbed.

The things that outrage you on a personal level---Some dweeb who shleps into the presidency by freak occurrence and cheating you just sit on your ass and watch.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2017-09-13 11:27 AM | Reply

"Holy crap, get a life already" --Fishpaw--

Ah yes, I forgot, you were in a monastery from 2008-2016 making toys for poor children, right?

#12 | Posted by e1g1 at 2017-09-13 11:34 AM | Reply

We have been told for 8 years that Obama was destroying the Presidency when in fact it was the right that was destroying it through unprecedented obstruction, birferism and open hostility to the President.

Shouting out "LIAR" during State of the Union.

Trumps birferism.

Jan Brewer wagging her finger in his face on the tarmac.

Now all the ------ that had denied Obama any co-operation dare to say "Let's give Trump a chance".

You never gave Obama a chance, so suck it.

#13 | Posted by 726 at 2017-09-13 11:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

"Let's give Trump a chance".

Give the man a hand and he'll take your arm. Donald turns on everyone the instant it becomes profitable and convenient. We may yet see him send his own spawn down the sewer.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2017-09-13 11:41 AM | Reply

"Issued seven days into his presidency, the ban was sloppily written, barely vetted inside the executive branch, legally overbroad, and incompetently rolled out."

Wow, it's amazing how this same exact description could be used to objectively describe the ACA debacle...written with holes proven after the fact (sloppily written), some Executive branch are on record saying they didn't read the whole thing (barely vetted), it blurred the lines between what is a tax and what isn't with millions agreeing to one side or another (legally overbroad), and the roll-out was a mess and couldn't handle the legislation's timeline. None of that is opinion and is all easily researched.

I know two wrongs don't make a right. But in politics, one wrong allows that wrong to be repeated again and again. And the ACA wasn't the first to start this so hardly it's fault.

#15 | Posted by humtake at 2017-09-13 11:42 AM | Reply

the world is going to end because of OBAMA
sincerely
you, last year
#6 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES AT 2017-09-13 11:05 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Wrong Chief, I did fine during Obama's 8 years, could have done a little better if the economy did a little better but I didn't bitch and moan like you snow flakes are doing.

#16 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-09-13 12:15 PM | Reply

Now all the ------ that had denied Obama any co-operation dare to say "Let's give Trump a chance".
You never gave Obama a chance, so suck it.

#13 | POSTED BY 726 AT 2017-09-13 11:37 AM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 1

Did Harry Reid give the GOP in congress and the senate any chance to co-operate? Is anyone on either side of the isle co-operating with Trump right now? Did Trump just get a debt ceiling deal done with Schumer and Pelosi? Did Obama ever do that? No.

#17 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-09-13 12:20 PM | Reply


@#17 ... Did Harry Reid give the GOP in congress and the senate any chance to co-operate? ...

Not cooperating is different than not having a chance to cooperate.

Early on in fmr Pres Obama's presidency (i.e. Inauguration Day) the Republicans decided to "just say no" to anything and everything the Democrats proposed in Congress. That was according to the Republican strategist who organized the meeting on inauguration day (he actually stated that in a television interview during the second term). The Republicans had decided the best way to make fmr Pres Obama a one term President was to obstruct everything he tried to do.

So, it wasn't, as you say, the Democrats preventing the Republicans from participating. It was the Republicans refusing to participate, and then trying to paint the problem as the Democrats. Republicans - the party of personal responsibility that blames everyone else but themselves.

#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-09-13 12:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

How did a spot-on thread regarding Trump devolve into a discussion of how the GOP treated Obama?

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-09-13 12:43 PM | Reply

#18 So if that is how it went and it is so wrong are you ok with the Dems totaling shutting down with Trump?

#20 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-09-13 03:27 PM | Reply

#19 see #5. The lefty posters here are saying that Trump should be treated like --- because Obama was treated like ---. In other words we should all be playing on teeter-totter and swing sets.

#21 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-09-13 03:35 PM | Reply

The lefty posters here are saying that Trump should be treated like

#21 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-09

Like the skulking mutant that he is. There's no reason to trust him. None. Makes it kind of hard to form any sort of a bond, if you know what I mean?

#22 | Posted by Zed at 2017-09-13 04:56 PM | Reply

Did Obama ever do that? No.

#17 | POSTED BY FISHPAW AT

bfy.tw

#23 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-09-13 07:28 PM | Reply

The demise of an imperial presidency should be a goal held by both the left and the right. The left should realize that big government is about as popular as an inflamed hemorrhoid, unless someone needs some services offered. Neither side is guaranteed the office. Sense Truman and Ike, executive orders have had the power and weight of law, which I do not believe is constitutional, but congress refuses to challenge the practice. Congress has emasculated themselves. We are 20 trillion dollars in debt, our enemies are emboldened, and criminals go free if they hold a political office,(or so it seems). Congress needs to do their job for a change. Dump the leadership on both sides and start over.

#24 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-09-14 12:30 PM | Reply

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