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Wednesday, September 13, 2017

Former President Jimmy Carter offered a damning indictment of U.S. foreign policy and domestic affairs Tuesday, saying money in politics makes the nation more like an "oligarchy than a democracy" and casting President Donald Trump as a disappointment on the world stage. ... Carter, 92, did not mention explicitly Trump's threatening exchanges this summer with North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un, but the former president said the U.S. should engage directly with the insular leader and discuss a peace treaty to replace the cease fire that ended the Korean War in 1953. "I would send my top person to Pyongyang immediately, if I didn't go myself," Carter said, noting that he's been three times to the country, even as successive U.S. administrations have refused to deal with the regime.

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The North Koreans, Carter said, want a treaty that guarantees the U.S. will not attack unless North Korea attacks the U.S. or an ally, particularly South Korea. "Until we talk to them and threat them with respect -- as human beings, which they are -- I don't think we're going to make any progress," Carter said.

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--Until we talk to them and threat them with respect -- as human beings, which they are

lol. This is the kind of flabby, mush-minded thinking you get from old hippies. Was Carter wearing beads and a flower in his hair when he said that?

The issue is not that the Korean people aren't human beings, it's that they are ruled by a vicious Marxist dictator who is trying to blackmail the world.

#1 | Posted by nullifidian at 2017-09-13 09:26 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"I would wait until North Korea kidnapped about 50 or so of our people, then let them hang on to them for four hundred days or so, the whole while embarrassing our country on a daily basis, then wait until a stronger leader gets elected here before I did anything."

-Jimmah

#2 | Posted by cookfish at 2017-09-13 09:37 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's a lot easier to scream threats than do something constructive. And Rs usually choose the easy way out.

#3 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2017-09-13 09:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Yes, let's ignore the 'oligarchy' part.

#4 | Posted by kudzu at 2017-09-13 09:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#4 We can, because Donny Doll Hands said he was "restoring power to the people" at his inauguration.

Appointing Wall Street 1%er's and lobbyists to his cabinet left and right.

Pushing tax cuts for the 1%.

Removing pollution protections.

Gutting consumer protections.

Gonna get to that restoring power any day now. Just let him golf a few dozen more times and have the taxpayers pay millions for it first, but any day now.

#5 | Posted by 726 at 2017-09-13 10:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

- old hippies.

What a maroon.

You must mean old Southern centrists who served as Naval officers on submarines. Not that facts have ever been a priority for you.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2017-09-13 10:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Jimmy Carter is right.

#7 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-09-13 10:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

AMEN Jimmy.

#8 | Posted by uncle_meat at 2017-09-13 11:40 AM | Reply

Jimmy Carter may have made for a crappy president but he is one of the greatest statesmen of recent times. It's idiotic to not recognize that. He had negotiated brilliantly for this country when called upon. Note he worked with NK several times. He has also done incredible things for the poor on this planet - note in particular his work on disease eradication in Africa. He is well respected globally as a negotiator.

Personally, Nulli - just because he is a dictator doesn't mean he isn't "human". I wouldn't even consider him a Marxist. Just a pure and simple dictator.

#9 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-09-13 11:44 AM | Reply

Jimmy Carter was a lousy POTUS, if you are old enough to remember him as president as an adult you know that is true. Advice from him about governance, economic policy or foreign policy should be considered, then take the exact opposite action. I wish he would stay with Habitat for Humanity, he can't screw up an entire country swinging a hammer. To him our allies are villains, our enemies are simply misunderstood. As far being as a hippie, we would have been better off if he had skipped the academy and fried his brain on acid.

#10 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-09-13 12:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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Jimmy Carter linked our economic policy with a pro-freedom agenda.

Naturally this was bad for business.

People like Docnjo hate Carter because supporting human rights is bad for business.

Reagan gave weapons to the Iranians who took our embassy workers hostage under Carter.

Docnjo loves Reagan. Because human rights are a stupid waste of time.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-13 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Jimmy Carter was a lousy POTUS, if you are old enough to remember him as president as an adult you know that is true. Advice from him about governance, economic policy or foreign policy should be considered, then take the exact opposite action. I wish he would stay with Habitat for Humanity, he can't screw up an entire country swinging a hammer. To him our allies are villains, our enemies are simply misunderstood. As far being as a hippie, we would have been better off if he had skipped the academy and fried his brain on acid.

#10 | POSTED BY DOCNJO AT 2017-09-13 12:34 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

You are more comfortable with presidents who sell weapons to terrorist states in violation of federal law, I take it. Good on ya.

#12 | Posted by anton at 2017-09-13 12:48 PM | Reply

#12 | Posted by anton, #11 | Posted by snoofy, I am for a president who puts the interest of THIS country first. I do not give a tinker's damn about the civil rights of a bunch of foreign nationals who have no concept of human rights. Face it, for most of the world, human rights mean about as much as a string of pearls do to a chimpanzee. From experience I can say the concept is alien to many populations. Being a good example of what you proclaim is more effective.

#13 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-09-13 01:09 PM | Reply

"I am for a president who puts the interest of THIS country first. I do not give a tinker's damn about the civil rights of a bunch of foreign nationals"

Exactly. All you care about is profits. And if profits come from a brutal regime like China, that's fine with you too.

Honestly I couldn't have said it better myself. You literally don't care how you get rich. If it's on the backs of children working in third world sweatshops, that's no problem at all.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-13 01:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Face it, for most of the world, human rights mean about as much as a string of pearls do to a chimpanzee."

And it would be bad for business if they found out what Hunan rights are. Started demanding breaks, safe working conditions, maternity leave, all kinds of things that cut into working hours.

So, obviously, you've got to make sure they don't find out!

You sir are an economic genuis.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-13 01:17 PM | Reply

How the governments of China and India treat their populations is not our business. Y'all really underestimate how xenophobic most of these places are. Strange you object to slavery ever being practiced in this country, but you forget it was the banks and insurance companies in New York City and other Northern cities that kept most the profits from that practice. If you don't like the working conditions of the people who build your smart phone, don't buy them. Fat chance.

#16 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-09-13 01:30 PM | Reply

"How the governments of China and India treat their populations is not our business."

You don't believe that, I'll demonstrate how

You don't care when children get exploited.

But when children stop getting exploited and it cuts into your profits, then you care.

So how the governments of China and India treat their populations may not be any of your business, but it directly affects your investments, and your investments are very much your business.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-13 01:53 PM | Reply

"Y'all really underestimate how xenophobic most of these places are."

I think you're absolutely correct about that. Many, many years ago I discovered just how racist Japan was and from what I read and hear from old veteran friends who still go there, it's worse now.

"Strange you object to slavery ever being practiced in this country, but you forget it was the banks and insurance companies in New York City and other Northern cities that kept most the profits from that practice."

Yes, and the worst that free slaves were treated was in NYC.

"The long term damage to New York's black population was significant: In the aftermath of the riots, the city's black population plummeted by more than 20 percent, to below 10,000 (the lowest number since the 1820s), as blacks fled the city in droves. Many of those who stayed relocated from their racially mixed neighborhoods to areas with an elevated police presence or to the relative safety of the outskirts of the city."
Read more true history about the Draft Riots:
www.history.com The Most Violent Insurrection in American History

"If you don't like the working conditions of the people who build your smart phone, don't buy them. Fat chance."

You don't understand, their principles only deal with "feelings," not actions.

#18 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2017-09-13 01:59 PM | Reply

"Strange you object to slavery ever being practiced in this country, but you forget it was the banks and insurance companies in New York City and other Northern cities that kept most the profits from that practice."

Not sure where you're going with this.

Do you object to "unsafe working conditions" (or slavery if you prefer) in China and India, or not?

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-13 02:07 PM | Reply

"but you forget it was the banks and insurance companies in New York City and other Northern cities that kept most the profits from that practice."

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "forget."

You're saying I should not have objected to slavery, because the North profited from it too?

Perhaps the difficulty here is that my opinion of slavery is not rooted in profits.

You have a hard time understanding that. Because your opinion on human rights is rooted in the fact that enacting human rights is bad for profits.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-09-13 02:11 PM | Reply

Carter is eligible to run for office. Maybe he should.

#21 | Posted by Petrous at 2017-09-13 02:19 PM | Reply

#13 | Posted by docnjo

So since the era of deregulation started under Jimmy we should reverse it. Gotcha. Remember - he was a deregulation champion which I am sure chafes some people's nether regions. All things the right cry for were something Carter worked hard on.

He even negotiated to get our people out of Iran - the exchange simply didn't take place until Reagan was in. There are conspiracy theories around that. Some even say collusion...

#22 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-09-13 02:43 PM | Reply

To Nulli US refusal to sign a peace treat after China forced a stalemate and instead playing war games with 75,000 troops and artillery and nuclear bombs, means that the US alone is entitled to wage war and stockpile nuclear weapons. If we care about humanity why do we support the worst tyrants on Earth that actually attacked us in Saudi Arabia?

Cfish ignores the truth that prior to Carter's election loss the Reagan campaign conspired to prevent the release of US hostages held in Iran in order to defeat Carter. This is an act of high treason, playing with innocent lives.
Carter is merely stating a fact proven by Princeton study.

#23 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-09-14 04:06 PM | Reply

Jimmy Carter was a good president but the hostage crisis ruined his chances for reelection, and let's be honest here, that was engineered by the Reagan campaign, promising weapons for Iran if they held the hostages until after the election. That is not conspiracy theory, that is fact and REpublicans need to own the idea that all Republican Presidents starting with Nixon committed treason. You own that. Tell me Carter wasn't a good president and that you have voted for Republicans and I'll laugh in your face. Idiot Galaxiepete.

#24 | Posted by danni at 2017-09-15 10:16 AM | Reply

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