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Sunday, September 10, 2017

Washington Post editorial board: Unfortunately but predictably, an effort that would have forced release of [President] Trump's tax information was shut down last week by House Republicans. In a party-line vote Thursday, the House Ways and Means Committee rejected a resolution that would have directed the Treasury Department to turn over the tax returns of Trump and his many businesses. A law enacted in 1924 after the Teapot Dome scandal allows the Way and Means Committee, along with the Senate Committee on Finance and the Joint Committee on Taxation, to request tax information for review in a closed session with possible public disclosure.

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It's understandable why Donald Trump has felt no compunction about refusing to release his tax returns. After all, he got elected president despite breaking his promise to release his IRS filings, thus thumbing his nose at a tradition that had been followed by every major-party candidate for four decades. Keeping the information under wraps also appears to be an effective way of stymieing questions about whether there are potential conflicts of interest posed by his private business empire. What doesn't make sense is that Congress lets him get away with this, particularly since it soon will be debating an overhaul of tax policy. Shouldn't elected representatives know how President Trump might benefit and what interests are really being served?

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No tax returns, no peace.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2017-09-10 09:44 AM | Reply

LOL

#2 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-09-10 02:39 PM | Reply

Looks like Trump has been allowed into the club. To be sure, we'll have to wait and see what Mueller comes up with.

#3 | Posted by Ray at 2017-09-10 02:49 PM | Reply

When will we see the tax returns of every person that takes Government assistance?

#4 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-09-10 02:52 PM | Reply

Looks like Trump has been allowed into the club.

Is that what it looks like to you?

To me it looks like Republicans are partisan whores.

Crying for 5 years about needing to see Obama's birth certificate. But showing absolutely zero interest in where Trump's financial loyalties are.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-09-10 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Why should tax returns and other government filings not be public? The property tax rolls are public.

You would think that a guy who brags about how rich he is would want to prove it. What is he ashamed of?

#6 | Posted by TenMile at 2017-09-10 03:01 PM | Reply

Is that what it looks like to you?

Still waiting for Mueller before coming to solid conclusion.

To me it looks like Republicans are partisan whores.

Think of it as a war where each side believes itself in the right and the other wrong.

Kind of like a WWF cage match. A lot of yelling and chest beating. All choreographed by the men behind the curtain.

#7 | Posted by Ray at 2017-09-10 03:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You would think that a guy who brags about how rich he is would want to prove it. What is he ashamed of?
#6 | POSTED BY TENMILE

Trump ashamed of his wealth? His properties have the Trump name plastered in big letters all over the front. He was a houseold name by the time he ran for office. What more can a man do?

I'll tell you the real reason: to publish his tax returns would give his enemies ammunition to attack him with unfounded charges. The liberal media is notorious for that.

#8 | Posted by Ray at 2017-09-10 03:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"to publish his tax returns would give his enemies ammunition to attack him with unfounded charges."

Even worse: they'd attack him with founded charges.

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-09-10 03:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The liberal media is notorious for that.

LOL how's the air up there, ray? Does it improve with proper fiber intake?

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2017-09-10 03:22 PM | Reply

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Think of it as a war where each side believes itself in the right and the other wrong.

Isn't that the case in ever war?

This isn't a good model for running a government. Our elected officials shouldn't be at war with each other. They should be working together to strengthen our nation.

Instead they are intent on weakening America for the profit of a very few families.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-09-10 03:23 PM | Reply

LOL how's the air up there, ray? Does it improve with proper fiber intake?
#10 | POSTED BY JPW

C'mon! How can you deny that the liberal media attacks Trump for the slightest thing that annoys them? It was only recently libs wanted to impeach him.

I'm not defending Trump. I'm only calling it as I see it.

#12 | Posted by Ray at 2017-09-10 03:28 PM | Reply

Even worse: they'd attack him with founded charges.
#9 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

That's always possible. Either way, I'm sure that's why he won't publish his tax returns.

#13 | Posted by Ray at 2017-09-10 03:29 PM | Reply

C'mon! How can you deny that the liberal media attacks Trump for the slightest thing that annoys them? It was only recently libs wanted to impeach him.

I don't deny, I just think the "liberal media" pales in comparison to the right wing media.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2017-09-10 03:31 PM | Reply

Ray a Nazi sympathizer, and a liar. Says he isn't defending Trump, which is all he does.

#15 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-09-10 03:33 PM | Reply

This isn't a good model for running a government. Our elected officials shouldn't be at war with each other. They should be working together to strengthen our nation.

It's a legacy with roots beginning with the framing of the Constitution.

Instead they are intent on weakening America for the profit of a very few families.
#11 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

That's about how I see it. I think of it as a cabal of extremely wealthy families and corporate chieftans who pull the strings of government. Commoner libs have no chance of getting in.

#16 | Posted by Ray at 2017-09-10 03:38 PM | Reply

Ray a Nazi sympathizer, and a liar. Says he isn't defending Trump, which is all he does.
#15 | POSTED BY ABORTED_MONSON

To get a sense of how Trump thinks, I put myself in his place. That was only for a few minutes.

I'm writing with my own voice now. I could care less if he gets impeached, driven from office or any other reason. But I wonder if Pence would be any more acceptable?

#17 | Posted by Ray at 2017-09-10 03:44 PM | Reply

to publish his tax returns would give his enemies ammunition to attack him with unfounded charges.

Wouldn't publishing his tax returns put an end to any and all unfounded charges?

Walk me through your thought process here.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-09-10 03:47 PM | Reply

I don't deny, I just think the "liberal media" pales in comparison to the right wing media.
#14 | POSTED BY JPW

I see it as a systemic problem with no possible chance of saving from collapse.

#19 | Posted by Ray at 2017-09-10 03:50 PM | Reply

How can you deny that the liberal media attacks Trump for the slightest thing that annoys them?

It's the same way conservative media attacked Obama for the slightest thing that annoyed them.

More divide and conquer tactics.

It was only recently libs wanted to impeach him.

We still do. But only if we can figure out how to get rid of Pence as well.

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-09-10 03:51 PM | Reply

Wouldn't publishing his tax returns put an end to any and all unfounded charges?
Walk me through your thought process here.
#18 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Nope. Stonewalling is the best of two bad choices. In a few more weeks, there will be another crises and Trump's tax returns be forgotten about. It took a measly hurricane to take the threat of nuclear war with Kim Jung un off the headlines.

#21 | Posted by Ray at 2017-09-10 03:55 PM | Reply

"Drain the swamp!"
ROTFLMAO

#22 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-09-10 03:59 PM | Reply

We still do. But only if we can figure out how to get rid of Pence as well.
#20 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Ryan would be next in line.

Barring unexpected revelations from Mueller, Dems are stuck until 2020.

#23 | Posted by Ray at 2017-09-10 04:00 PM | Reply

"Nope. Stonewalling is the best of two bad choices. In a few more weeks, there will be another crises and Trump's tax returns be forgotten about"

You mean, like they've been forgotten about since he first promised to release them?

Seriously, Ray, do you live in an abandoned missile silo sheathed into an exhausted gold mine that doubles as an underground mushroom farm?

#24 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-09-10 04:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

#24 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

All I did is explain why I think he's not releasing his returns.

He's a politician. Lying is an artform. I expect no less. I should hope you learned that lesson by now.
Party affiliation makes no difference.

#25 | Posted by Ray at 2017-09-10 04:14 PM | Reply

Trump is a con-artist turned politician, a simple transition if ever there was one.

#26 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-09-10 04:41 PM | Reply

Trump is a con-artist turned politician, a simple transition if ever there was one.

#26 | Posted by bayviking

His other option would have been Televangelist, but with three marriages and serial adultery, it would have been slightly more of a stretch.

#27 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2017-09-10 04:54 PM | Reply

So Republicans are crooks, just like most Democrats. It may not matter, since the IRS has teamed with Mueller and have access to ALL of Trump's tax returns. It would be unusual to dig deeper than three years, unless there's evidence of fraud.

#28 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-09-10 04:55 PM | Reply

Congress wants to stay ignorant to his crimes so they can deny having any knowledge.

Now if it were Hillary, she would have already had to publicly testify five times by now.

#29 | Posted by 726 at 2017-09-11 10:05 AM | Reply

It would be unusual to dig deeper than three years, unless there's evidence of fraud.

The IRS is limited to 3 years. I don't know if Mueller has that limitation.

#30 | Posted by 726 at 2017-09-11 10:06 AM | Reply

When will we see the tax returns of every person that takes Government assistance?

#4 | POSTED BY FEDERALIST AT 2017-09-10 02:52 PM

A copy of your tax return is one of the required documents for the application process.

The requirements include

1) proof of identity

Birth Certificate, US passport, VISA, Resident Alien Card

2) Social security card

3) Proof of income. Last 4 paystubs, Last years tax returns, Social security award letter, proof of other forms of income

There are also other documents required

#31 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-09-11 11:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'll tell you the real reason: to publish his tax returns would give his enemies ammunition to attack him with unfounded charges. The liberal media is notorious for that.
#8 | POSTED BY RAY AT 2017-09-10 03:12 PM | FLAG:

This is the big reason. The Libs like Clownshack would see he expensed a lunch where he had a salad with Russian dressing and they would go off the deep end.

#32 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-09-11 12:09 PM | Reply

#31 How much are you getting a month?

#33 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-09-11 12:13 PM | Reply

he expensed a lunch where he had a salad with Russian dressing

#32 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-09-11 12:09 PMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

If he had such a lunch on a day he went money-laundering then, yes----I'd find that interesting.

#34 | Posted by Zed at 2017-09-11 12:17 PM | Reply

I'll tell you the real reason: to publish his tax returns would give his enemies ammunition to attack him with unfounded charges. The liberal media is notorious for that.
#8 | POSTED BY RAY AT 2017-09-10 03:12 PM | FLAG:
This is the big reason. The Libs like Clownshack would see he expensed a lunch where he had a salad with Russian dressing and they would go off the deep end.
#32 | POSTED BY FISHPAW AT 2017-09-11 12:09 PM | REPLY

Look at dumb and dumber here, trying to have some kind of point.

If Trump is the straight forward businessman with nothing to hide, he'd have no reason to not reveal his taxes. Like every president before him has.

I understand if you two are unable to understand this simple concept. You're partisanship is cutting off oxygen to your brains.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-09-11 12:18 PM | Reply

All I did is explain why I think he's not releasing his returns.

Well. You tried.

Your first reason was he'd be attacked with unfounded charges. Which is what republicans did to obama for 8 years.

Your second reason was people would be distracted and forget. Which isn't really a good reason not to. But, it explains why people still choose to vote republican.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-09-11 12:24 PM | Reply

If Trump is the straight forward businessman with nothing to hide, he'd have no reason to not reveal his taxes. Like every president before him has. - #35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-09-11 12:18 PM
False.
PolitiFact found only seven presidential or vice president candidates since 1976 have refused to release any tax returns
CNN says that the first president to release his returns was Nixon.

#37 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-09-11 01:48 PM | Reply

PolitiFact found only seven presidential or Vice President candidates since 1976 have refused to release any tax returns
CNN says that the first president to release his returns was Nixon.
#37 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE AT 2017-09-11 01:48 PM | FLAG:

Lots of fun words in your statement. Such as candidates. And refused.

So. Who are these seven candidates who refused to release their tax returns?

From your article:

"Those seven include five Republicans, one Democrat, and one Green Party: Jerry Brown, Pat Buchanan, Mike Huckabee, Steve Forbes, Rudy Giuliani, Richard Lugar, Ralph Nader."

Your article doesn't support your claim. It actually reinforces mine.

But. Way to post something out of context. You clever girl.

#38 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-09-11 03:02 PM | Reply

PolitiFact found only seven presidential or vice president candidates since 1976 have refused to release any tax returns
CNN says that the first president to release his returns was Nixon.

#37 | Posted by Avigdore

Candidates are not presidents.

How many PRESIDENTS have refused to release them?

Better question - why are conservatives so desperate to help hide the president's financial dealings. Dont you want to know if the president is a criminal?

I bet you would if he were a dem.

#39 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-09-11 04:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

take the threat of nuclear war with Kim Jung un off the headlines.
#21 | POSTED BY RAY

There was no threat, you drama queen.

#40 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2017-09-11 05:00 PM | Reply

#35 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK
"Like every president since Nixon has."

FTFY

#41 | Posted by TheTom at 2017-09-11 07:21 PM | Reply

"Like every president since Nixon has."

Thanks.

I remember when Jefferson wouldn't release his tax returns.

JQ Adams was livid!!!

#42 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-09-12 02:50 AM | Reply

@#42 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-09-12 02:50 AM
Glad to see you can admit that you were incorrect.

#43 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-09-12 07:59 AM | Reply

#42 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK
"JQ Adams was livid!!!"

Nah, that's just his regular drunk face.

#44 | Posted by TheTom at 2017-09-12 04:01 PM | Reply

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