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Sunday, August 13, 2017

Olivia Nuzzi, New York magazine: The White House has not responded to a request to explain why the president -- who for many years lanced political leaders who declined to use the term, "radical Islamic terror" -- couldn't put a name to the hate groups visible in Virginia. While we wait for their answer, which I'm sure is coming soon, here's a brief and certainly incomplete collection of some of the various people, things, and entities that the president has spoken out against by name since taking office.

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-- Opinion polls that are unflattering to him;

-- Nordstrom;

-- The "fake news" media;

-- Specifically "CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, NYTIMES & WAPO";

-- Meet the Press host Chuck Todd;

-- The New York Times;

-- The "fake" reporting on his campaign's potential collusion with Russia;

-- The "witch hunt" that is the investigation into his campaign's potential collusion with Russia;

-- #FraudNewsCNN;

-- Leakers;

-- Anonymous sources;

-- Senator Lisa Murkowski;

-- Senator John McCain;

-- Senator Lindsey Graham;

-- All Senate Republicans;

-- Congress;

-- Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch;

-- His own attorney general, Jeff Sessions;

-- Acting FBI director Andrew McCabe;

-- Former FBI director James Comey;

-- The FBI;

-- "Fake tears" Cryin' Chuck Schumer;

-- Nancy Pelosi;

-- Congressmember Adam Schiff;

-- Senator Richard Blumenthal;

-- Barack Obama;

-- Hillary Clinton;

-- John Podesta;

-- Democratic congressional candidate Jon Ossoff;

-- Democrats in Congress;

-- Obamacare;

-- North Korea's unsuccessful missiles;

-- North Korea;

-- Qatar;

-- China;

-- Mexico;

-- Canada;

-- London mayor Sadiq Khan;

-- "Crazy Joe Scarborough and dumb as a rock Mika";

-- Morning Joe;

-- Arnold Schwarzenegger;

-- Snoop Dogg;

-- Mark Cuban;

-- "Celebs";

-- Kathy Griffin;

-- The Ninth Circuit Court;

-- Transgender military service members;

-- Chelsea Manning;

-- M3-13 gang members;

-- The idea that his first 100 days in office were of symbolic significance.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-08-13 05:24 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

What is wrong with hit tweet?

"We must remember this truth: No matter our color, creed, religion or political party, we are ALL AMERICANS FIRST,"

Us older democrats remember when that was our call to arms. Today, it's all identity politics.

What would you have said?

#2 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-08-13 05:36 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

And why didn't nymag post all of his tweets instead of just a couple, even in the link in the article they don't mention this tweet.

#3 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-08-13 05:46 AM | Reply

"We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for. There is no place for this kind of violence in America. Lets come together as one!"

Latest Trump tweet.

#4 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-08-13 05:50 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

A bit late.

#5 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-08-13 06:16 AM | Reply

Trump's been dancing with the devil for a while now.
And dances with the devil always come at a cost,

#6 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-08-13 06:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

So he should have condemned the Klan and AntiFa immediately? Before we even knew who the rioters where? This is planned, organized left vs. right violence. This was probably planned weeks ago by both groups.

This crap is not spontaneous.

#7 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-08-13 06:25 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"So he should have condemned the Klan"
#7 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017

Uhm yes he should

and the Nazis, and yes for weeks now the racist scums have been handing out flyers and posting on web sites for this rally.

#8 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-08-13 06:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If your going to condemn the Klan, you have to condemn AntiFa for things like this: www.washingtontimes.com

Does Trump have the balls to do both?

His message was Americanism and unity instead of group condemnation.

#9 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-08-13 06:39 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

It's not conservative style, but yeah he should toss liberals a bone and condemn both groups by name. A leader could have had it both way....

#10 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-08-13 06:43 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

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#2 I found Trump's oral statement to be unconvincing. First of all, he had to read the damn thing. It didn't come across as if he was speaking from the heart. What was wrong with his tweet is that he needed to condemn the Nazis and White Supremacists outright. That's who all the protesters were. You are right that some of the counter-protesters also need to be condemned, but not all of the counter-protesters were white haters. In fact, I don't think most of them were. In this case you can't lump all the counter-protesters together, but you can lump all the protesters together, and Trump should have done that.

#11 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-08-13 08:12 AM | Reply

"His message was Americanism and unity instead of group condemnation."

Unfortunately, that hasn't been Trump's message, implicitly or explicitly, up until now, so most folks aren't inclined to believe his sincerity based on a tweet urging national unity. He also threw in the bit about law and order when he spoke, and most people remember his use of those words in his convention speech and his inauguration speech, when he was not preaching national unity in the least. Because of his own past actions and language, he's going to have to work a lot harder to convince people he really sees the White Supremacists and Nazi for who they are. Right now it still seems like he sees them as one thing: his base.

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-08-13 08:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"If your going to condemn the Klan, you have to condemn AntiFa for things like this: www.washingtontimes.com"

Sure, that's just like driving a car into a crowd of people, possibly even worse!
Definitely worth mentioning in the same breath as murder.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-08-13 08:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#12 I have to admit, you have a point. "Law and Order" requires busting Nazi heads. Always has, always will. And / or infiltrating them with FBI agents. But you know, the same can be said of AntiFa.

#14 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-08-13 08:42 AM | Reply

The problem is the white nationalists THINK Trump is on their side.

That's what happens when you don't condemn strongly enough.

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-08-13 12:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

m.huffpost.com

#16 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2017-08-13 12:54 PM | Reply

What would of happened if the anti's never showed up?

#17 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-08-13 12:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

I'm out.

I can't take the absolute stupidity of party over country republicans anymore.

They can't even denounce actual nazis, just like our ---- for brains president.

Good bye.

#18 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2017-08-13 01:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

#18 | Posted by Alexandrite
Another quitter. No one likes Nazi's but they have a right to protest in this country.

#19 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-08-13 01:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

What would of happened if the anti's never showed up?

I suppose some skinhead would have been run down instead.

#20 | Posted by REDIAL at 2017-08-13 01:05 PM | Reply

One thing is certain about the ------------------- in the White House. He's the perfect representative for the murdering nazi filth who showed up in Charlottesville.

#21 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2017-08-13 01:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#21 | Posted by reinheitsgebot
Try to stay on subject. You sound like a Nazi.

#22 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-08-13 01:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#17

What would have happened if the Nazis never showed up?

Hard to tell, except that one little girl would be alive.

#23 | Posted by Zed at 2017-08-13 01:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#22 | POSTED BY FEDERALIST

Hey deplorable, the fact that the ------------------- won't denounce his nazi followers is the topic.

#24 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2017-08-13 01:18 PM | Reply

#24 | Posted by reinheitsgebot
Well if you only listed to CNN I understand why you did not hear it.
Did you blame Obama for Ferguson?

#25 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-08-13 01:28 PM | Reply

#23 | Posted by Zed
They had a permit to have a march. I guess you have a problem with that. Freedom of speech needs to be monitored by you?

#26 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-08-13 01:29 PM | Reply

#26

Killing people with an automobile is free speech? You do realize that every victim of that Nazis had their back turned when the brave young fascist set out to murder them?

#27 | Posted by Zed at 2017-08-13 01:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Killing people with an automobile is free speech?

Maybe the perp thought it was? How else can you explain the thought process behind taking that action?

At least suicide bombers know they won't have to deal with the consequences, but what was this nut thinking was going to happen?

#28 | Posted by REDIAL at 2017-08-13 02:46 PM | Reply

"No one likes Nazi's but they have a right to protest in this country."

Clearly people like Nazis or there wouldn't be groups of them getting together and protesting.

Bannon. He likes Nazis. Trump likes Adolf Hitler's speeches. Plenty of people like Nazis, even if you limit the discussion to members of the Trump administration.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-08-13 03:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Trump tweets against the violence but not against the hate filled historically violent group that brought it to Charlottesville. It is a tacit approval of the neo Nazi unite the right rally. In his view rallying for hate is not the problem, violence at the rally is.

#30 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-08-13 04:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#23 | Posted by Zed
So the parents of a little girl brought her to a Nazi protest?

#31 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-08-13 04:12 PM | Reply

#27 | Posted by Zed
So you are saying the person driving the car pulled the protest permit?

#32 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-08-13 04:14 PM | Reply

Waiting Zed..............

#33 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-08-13 04:26 PM | Reply

This from a few days ago:

White House adviser says people should stop criticizing white supremacists so much

On Wednesday, Gorka lashed out at "at [New York Times reporter] Maggie Haberman and her acolytes in the fake news media, who immediately have a conniption fit" and brought up McVeigh. He added that "white men" and "white supremacists" are not "the problem."

It's this constant, "Oh, it's the white man. It's the white supremacists. That's the problem." No, it isn't, Maggie Haberman. Go to Sinjar. Go to the Middle East, and tell me what the real problem is today. Go to Manchester.

Gorka noted that the Oklahoma City bombing was 22 years ago, which is true. But since 9/11, right-wing extremists -- almost always white men and frequently white supremacists -- have been far more deadly domestically than Muslim extremists. A study found that in the first 13.5 years after 9/11, Muslim extremists were responsible for 50 deaths in the United States. Meanwhile, "right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities."

thinkprogress.org

Make that 255 fatalities. Why is Gorka still in the WH? Actions speak louder than words.

#34 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-08-13 04:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

FYI:

Maggie Haberman‏ @maggieNYT
A few days ago, Trump adviser Seb Gorka faulted the media for focusing on white supremacists.

Then Haberman tweeted the link I posted above.

#35 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-08-13 04:40 PM | Reply

Posted by Federalist

Your willful ignorance/stupidity is appalling.

#36 | Posted by Angrydad at 2017-08-13 04:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

Look everyone has rights in this country if you want to actively spout hate you have the right to an extent. You have the right to harbor it but not to infringe on anyone else's rights. The nazi's started it the other night by attacking peaceful protestors. That brought out people ready for that kind of intimidation and assault.

The counter protesters were there legally. Period. In my book you are either on one side or the the other when it comes to groups like these fascist neo-nazis. I grudgingly agree they have their rights and that includes public gatherings. But they are not better than the gangs that plague this country and in fact IMHO far worse. They have a sinister agenda and people in power to aid in carrying it out. They shouldn't be given an inch and stood up to by sane people every time we get a chance. You can not harbor and be willing to act on so much hate and have any value to society.

#37 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-08-13 05:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Did you blame Obama for Ferguson?

#25 | POSTED BY FEDERALIST AT 2017-08-13 01:28 PM | FLAG:

People on the right did. They also blamed the protesters

#38 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-08-13 05:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The interesting thing about Ferguson - the actual protestors weren't the problem if you recall. Many of them actually confronted the looters.

#39 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-08-13 06:33 PM | Reply

Central Park Five.

#40 | Posted by fresno500 at 2017-08-14 03:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Central Park Five.

#40 | Posted by fresno500

Bears repeating. Even after the actual rapist confessed and the Five were freed and their convictions reversed, Donald Trump Says Central Park Five Are Guilty, Despite DNA Evidence. www.nbcnews.com.

#41 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2017-08-14 08:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

What would of happened if the anti's never showed up?

#17 | POSTED BY FEDERALIST AT 2017-08-13 12:55 PM | REPLY |

What if Britain never stepped up for Poland?

What if the US never showed up for WWII?

What if the north never showed up for the civil war?

The answer is never to not stand up to evil.

#42 | Posted by 726 at 2017-08-15 02:46 PM | Reply

Freedom of speech needs to be monitored by you?

#26 | POSTED BY FEDERALIST AT 2017-08-13 01:29 PM | FLAG:

Free speech now includes body armor, weapons and running over a woman with a car.

#43 | Posted by 726 at 2017-08-15 02:54 PM | Reply

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