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Tuesday, August 08, 2017

That the Trump presidency is bedeviled is undeniable.

As President Donald Trump flew off for August at his Jersey club, there came word that Special Counsel Robert Mueller III had impaneled a grand jury and subpoenas were going out to Trump family and campaign associates.

The jurors will be drawn from a pool of citizens in a city Hillary Clinton swept with 91 percent of the vote. Trump got 4 percent.

Whatever indictments Mueller wants, Mueller gets.

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Before Trump departed D.C., the Washington Post ran transcripts of his phone conversations with the leaders of Mexico and Australia.

Even Obama administration veterans were stunned.

So, it is time to ask: If this city brings Trump down, will the rest of America rejoice?

What will be the reaction out there in fly-over country, that land where the "deplorables" dwell who produce the soldiers to fight our wars? Will they toast the "free press" that brought down the president they elected, and in whom they had placed so much hope?

But there is a far larger story here, of which this Post piece is but an exhibit. It is the story of a concerted campaign, in which the anti-Trump media publish leaks, even criminal leaks, out of the FBI, CIA, NSA and NSC, to bring down a president whom the Beltway media and their deep-state collaborators both despise and wish to destroy.

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Burning Man?

#1 | Posted by ichiro at 2017-08-08 02:57 AM | Reply

Naw. Civil war. Then fascism and Reptoid/Illuminti/NWO rule for 1,000 years.

But at least strawberry's picked by Mexican child slave labor will be cheap. Of course, we won't have any jobs after they all get outsourced, so we wont be able to afford the berries.

#2 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-08-08 03:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

criminal leaks...like Bush and Cheney or like Trump and Putin?

or mb Watergate or Rand Corp?

(Obama used the espionage act on leakers more than the past 3 combined.)

#3 | Posted by ichiro at 2017-08-08 03:01 AM | Reply

"(Obama used the espionage act on leakers more than the past 3 combined.)"

I hear that a lot, can you remind me the results?

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-08-08 03:12 AM | Reply

"But at least strawberry's picked by Mexican child slave labor will be cheap"

In San Diego, plenty of the strawberries actually come from Mexico.

Is it okay to buy those ones, picked by Mexican child slave labor, as opposed to the ones picked on American farms by Mexican child slave labor?

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-08-08 03:14 AM | Reply

Nope. Tariff them.

#6 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-08-08 03:20 AM | Reply

I don't have the ability to impose a tarriff.

I'm simply asking which strawberries to buy; from USA or Mexico.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-08-08 04:09 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Pat Buchanan began his career helping crooked president Nixon and now he's helping crooked president Trump. The circle is complete.

It's no surprise that someone as racist as Buchanan has a problem with D.C. having so many black people living in it. But the idea that D.C. grand juries shouldn't be allowed is a new one. I don't remember him airing that concern when Democratic presidents were under investigation.

If there's a coup, the lead plotter is Trump. No one has done more to further an obstruction of justice charge against the president than the president.

#8 | Posted by rcade at 2017-08-08 07:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

If the left succeeds in its effort to remove President Trump from office or renders him virtually powerless, America's working class – the "Eddies and Ediths" – will revolt, warned author and nationally syndicated talk-radio host Michael Savage.

Referring to a 1939 novel, Savage told his listeners Friday that "The Day of the Locust" will come and people will "resort to mob violence" when they "are finally aware of the fact that they've been tricked by their society, and that no matter how hard they work as middle class people" they are denied.

#9 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-08-08 10:19 AM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Michael Savage Weiner is a rabble-rousing demagogue who plays to the passions and prejudices of his easily manipulated audience. Witnessing someone being hypnotized by his maddeningly pathetic schtick is embarrassing.

#10 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-08-08 10:32 AM | Reply

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If Donald is a money-launderer, a tax fraud, or a traitor then he needs to be indicted, tried, and deposed.

If people want to riot on behalf of a criminal and a smaller-than-life loser it wouldn't the first time. It's not in the interest of the country to let the man stay in office simply because someone will throw a hissy-fit.

For you racists out there, imagine Black people rioting. There, you begin to understand, don't you?

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2017-08-08 11:21 AM | Reply

Impeachment is not a coup. It a process established by our founding fathers precisely for a situation exactly like we are facing.

A President of the United States who thinks he is above the law.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-08-08 12:06 PM | Reply

There is always David Brock and "Democracy Matters," his opposition stategy backed by Soros.

It all makes sense.

#13 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2017-08-08 10:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If you impeach Trump, there's Pence waiting behind him. Get rid of Pence, we get the speaker of the house..

Go ahead, get rid of Trump.

I wanted the other guys anyway..

#14 | Posted by boaz at 2017-08-09 09:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

The sad thing is, as stupid as people who voted for him are, all he had to do, is basically NOTHING, and he would have had at least a 50 percent approval rating and zero hot water. He would have likely gotten away with the collusion and money laundering.

He can't help but incriminate himself. America wasn't looking to get rid of Trump, even if people like me were. America would have let this pass because after Bush, our standards of acceptability got really, really, low. Think about how low Trump has pushed those standards down, and he STILL might hold onto power somehow.

#15 | Posted by bocaink at 2017-08-09 09:56 AM | Reply

Back during the primaries I predicted that Trump would be assassinated. The establishment and the deep state could not cope with an outsider who was not beholding to them and they could not control. Most of the country is fed up with the Federal government and the political establishment of both parties. Hence we had Sanders and Trump winning the primaries. HRC with the DNC stroll the nomination from Sanders, as there is copious proof via Seth Rich through Wikileaks. I do not like Trump, I did not vote for him. I am a libertarian, definitely not pro big government. But the country needs a shake up. Removing Trump by any means beyond lawful impeachment will more than likely start a civil war. Too many people around the Clintons who were intending on testifying ageist them have conveniently died. Too many pointless wars, too many boondoggle programs, too many regulations, too much tax. The corruption of the Clintons is monstrous compared to Trump, and I do not have much of of a favorable opinion of him ether. I suspect the new committees that have recently been empaneled looking into HRC and the so called foundation will bear much more fruit than 10 months of the Russian collusion narrative pushed on us by the DNC and their agents in the media. Play for pay was real. Between Podesta and Clinton they raked in about 200 million dollars on the Uranium One deal. The lions share of contributions came from foreign governments, if that does not give you pause, what will?

#16 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-08-09 02:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"The corruption of the Clintons is monstrous compared to Trump"

Day drinking again?

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-08-09 02:30 PM | Reply

#17 | Posted by snoofy One is conjecture, Trump, without a shred of proof. The other, Clinton, has a mountain of documentation.

#18 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-08-09 02:42 PM | Reply

"Conjecture" vs "proven" doesn't address the magnitude of the corruption.

(Also, the fact that Trump campaign operatives met with a foreign power to influence our election is proven, not conjecture.)

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-08-09 02:53 PM | Reply

A President of the United States who thinks he is above the law.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-08-08 12:06 PM | Reply | Fl

oh my gawd...OH MY GAWD......I've got a two o'clock deadline but this can't go without a remark.

the alternative, thanks to the DNC, was hillary clinton........we can start with HAITI and her "foundation" and really

no need to go further....alternative was a poster' person' for white privilege elitist who was let off the hook thanks

to "Elizabeth Carlisle " and if you don't know who that is, you're not informed enough to reply.

so at least I'll make my deadline laughing....

#20 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-08-09 02:59 PM | Reply

#19 | Posted by snoofy, a half hour meeting with a Russian lawyer saying she had dirt on HRC is not collusion, she had nothing, and any political campaign would jump at the opportunity even if it came from the prince of darkness. The whole thing looks like a set up. Hillery on the other hand did take assistance from the Ukrainians, looking for dirt on Trump. So it is OK for her but not for him?

#21 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-08-09 03:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

*a half hour meeting with a Russian lawyer saying she had dirt on HRC is not collusion"

I didn't say it was collusion.

Also, there was more than one meeting. There were multiple meeting with multiple Trump administration bureaucrats, including the Attorney General and the former National Security Advisor.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-08-09 03:14 PM | Reply

" Maxine Waters on The View said they were going to impeach Trump And then take down vice president Pence.

Vice president Pence hasn't even been accused of anything, but yet the Democrats are going to try and take him

down. The people in this country elected Donald Trump in all ways legally, constitutionally and by a clear margin of

victory, the electoral college haters ( constitution ) be damned. To be kind, let's call it irony, that the same

people inclined to go to immeasurable lengths beyond the constitutional parameters are the ones who also stake some

sort of claim to moral equivalency concerning the rule of law. I've said it repeatedly and the left continues to

expand my level of correctness...A republican in the white house and the left will do a complete 180 on the "abuses

of the expansion of executive power".

#Informedcitizensunited

#23 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-08-09 03:25 PM | Reply

"The people in this country elected Donald Trump in all ways legally, constitutionally and by a clear margin of
victory, the electoral college haters ( constitution ) be damned."

I seriously doubt that is even true. Republicans since Nixon have won the Presidency by cheating. Eisenhower was the last legitimate Republican President.

#24 | Posted by danni at 2017-08-09 03:29 PM | Reply

#22 | Posted by snoofy, People in government office talk to Russians every day. Senators, Representatives, Cabinet members, Lobbyist and even the President. As far as the former National Security Advisor, he got fired for lying about that meeting to the VPOTUS. As far as the Attorney General, who are the Russians going to talk to about law enforcement in this country? There are around 4000 Russians with diplomatic passports in this country right now. There is a maze of sanctions and restriction on them. I would consider it wise to consult with the chief law enforcement officer in the United States from time to time.

#25 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-08-09 03:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Danni....

puullleasee..........that 'song and dance' has played itself out long ago... even IF the man who has become FILTHY RICH

OFF THE ENVIRONMENT as his mansions use close to twice the energy as a normal home... still maintains his 2000

"victory"...

but seriously, I do appreciate your attempt at reminiscing on such wonderful memories from 17 years ago because

unlike some of these 'young whippersnappers"....we were HERE weren't we ? :) :)

#26 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-08-09 03:39 PM | Reply

Only in Danni-world can a Republican win 49 states and still not legitimately win the election.

#27 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-08-09 03:42 PM | Reply

without a doubt....these numbers have all the look of "cheating'.....lol


Popular Vote EC
Ronald Reagan 54,455,472 58.77% 525 97.6%

Walter Mondale 37,577,352 40.56% 13 2.4%

AND let's not forget the STOCK that today's left puts in the POPULAR VOTE...

#28 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-08-09 03:52 PM | Reply

OR MAYBE JEFF....they're talking about "HW" in 88

Hmmmmmmmm

George Bush 48,886,597 53.37% 426 79.2%

Michael Dukakis 41,809,476 45.65% 111 20.6%

and there's that POPULAR VOTE AGAIN.....lets' see....subtract the 6...carry the....LOOKS LIKE ABOUT SEVEN MILLION OF

SO .....

:)

#29 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-08-09 03:58 PM | Reply

and again.....PLEASE LET ME SAVE YOU SOME TIME..

"..BUT...BUT....WILLIE HORTON !!!"

:)

#30 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-08-09 03:59 PM | Reply

Mueller has assembled a magnificent 7 team to take down the Trump gang of Russian backed thugs for their crimes.
If Clinton was guilty of anything, why did she spank Trey Gowdy's butt during her testimony?
I am looking forward to little d melting down on the stand when faced by competent and honorable people defending the US from corruption.

#31 | Posted by bored at 2017-08-09 04:09 PM | Reply

well that's enough for me..I'm gonna see if I can find the little "judd girly" and call her "SWEETHEART" and see how much money I can sue her for....

lol

#32 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-08-09 04:10 PM | Reply

#30 | Posted by afkabl2, It worked, but not as well as the film Mike Dukakis riding in the commander's hatch of a tank. He looked as comfortable as a hooker in Church.

#33 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-08-09 04:13 PM | Reply

"Ronald Reagan 54,455,472 58.77% 525 97.6%"

He also made a treasonous deal with the Ayatollah in Iran to sell him parts for aircraft and weapons if the Iranians would hold the hostages til after the election. Had Carter not been prevented from getting the hostages freed the election would have had very different results.

#34 | Posted by danni at 2017-08-09 04:17 PM | Reply

#34 | Posted by danni, I seriously doubt that. As I remember most did not blame Carter for what the Iranians did. Some wanted to pound Iran into the stone age, but not many. Remember Carter took office only three years after Vietnam. The savings and loan failures and the subsequent rescission had much more to do with his loss.

#35 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-08-09 04:35 PM | Reply

#34 | Posted by danni, Is your tin foil hat getting too tight? I wonder if the Iranians would actually collude with an infidel who they hated more than Carter. Source?

#36 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-08-09 04:38 PM | Reply

"I wonder if the Iranians would actually collude with an infidel who they hated more than Carter."

No need to wonder.

Iran Contra proves conclusively the Iranians would indeed collude with the Republicans.

Maybe you were busy invading Grenada that weekend so you missed the news?

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-08-09 04:43 PM | Reply

#37 | Posted by snoofy Nope, that was some rouge agents who were trying to circumvent a law passed by congress. When Reagan heard about the scheme he hit the roof, seems they got his signature while he was on pain meds after a surgery while still in the hospital. Besides your conjecture is that the Iranians made some deal with him before he took office.

#38 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-08-09 04:53 PM | Reply

Patrick Buchanan was an early advocate of "Cultural Marxism" so it's not surprising that he is a purveyor of it's descendant war on social justice, nor is it surprising the Lock and Load! candidate is spouting off about civil war if Trump is dumped as he should be.

If he keeps it up, he'll end up in a cell next to the Unabomber.

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2017-08-09 04:53 PM | Reply

#39 | Posted by Corky, So there was never a Frankfort School at Columbia? There was never a academic philosophy called "Critical Theory" that has invaded university standards? And universities are not involved in political indoctrination in many departments? The Marxist Left operate most freely where they deny they exist.

#40 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-08-09 05:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 2

#40 |

Read/Learn (if possible. offer not valid in red states. no returns. use at your own risk)

www.splcenter.org

#41 | Posted by Corky at 2017-08-09 05:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

#'s 40-41 FLAGGED FUNNY BY NULLIFIDIAN, FUNNY BY HELIUMRAT

Wow, those Trump Lurkers stick to other rwingers like glue!

#42 | Posted by Corky at 2017-08-09 05:56 PM | Reply

"There was never a academic philosophy called "Critical Theory" that has invaded university standards?"

Which standards were changed because of it?
None that you can name.
You're running on fumes.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-08-09 07:03 PM | Reply

#42 Says the guy who believes that communism is a Jewish conspiracy, so anti-communists must be anti-Semites.

#44 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-08-09 08:06 PM | Reply

"Besides your conjecture is that the Iranians made some deal with him before he took office."

Before he was elected. Then, after he was inaugurated they did it again to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. And they got caught that time. Reagan was a treasonous piece of garbage who helped ruin American and we still haven't recovered from his Presidency.

#45 | Posted by danni at 2017-08-09 08:19 PM | Reply

"Whatever indictments Mueller wants, Mueller gets."

So, they get indicted, their lawyers would be perfectly capable of getting a change of venue for their trial.

#46 | Posted by danni at 2017-08-09 08:20 PM | Reply

"Whatever indictments Mueller wants, Mueller gets."

So, they get indicted, their lawyers would be perfectly capable of getting a change of venue for their trial.

#47 | Posted by danni at 2017-08-09 08:20 PM | Reply

#44

Says Auntie Lucid.

#48 | Posted by Corky at 2017-08-09 09:38 PM | Reply

#45 | Posted by danni He won the cold war without firing a shot, something no leftist desired or believed was possible. Lest we forget.

#49 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-08-10 12:59 AM | Reply

#43 | Posted by snoofy Which standards were changed because of it? You have never had to submit a thesis in history, have you? Saying that the men who founded this country were more than money grubbing monsters is an anathema. Critical Theory is the ultimate historical revision. All the heroes were villains, all the bloodiest villains in history are history are heroes.

#50 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-08-10 01:30 AM | Reply

#49 he won the cold war without firing a,shot.

You are quite the -------. As your hero would say " there you go again"

#51 | Posted by bruceaz at 2017-08-10 03:05 AM | Reply

#4 nope; #7 i thought you did.

#52 | Posted by ichiro at 2017-08-10 04:03 AM | Reply

#51 | Posted by bruceaz, name calling is the final signal that your opponent has lost the argument. I proudly wear the mantle of your description. Such are the ones that actually accomplish something. What you feel does not mater. What you do does mater, a lot.

#53 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-08-10 03:09 PM | Reply

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