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Tuesday, August 08, 2017

It took nearly six months after he left the governor's office, but Vice President Mike Pence and his legal team say they have now provided Indiana officials with all emails from his personal AOL account involving state business. The law firm overseeing the delivery of the emails on behalf of Pence is Barnes & Thornburg, whose managing partner, Bob Grand, is a top fundraiser for Trump and Pence. Pence's attorneys are only providing emails they consider to be related to state business, but Lotter did not answer questions about how those determinations are being made. Government accountability advocates said the role of Pence's campaign attorneys in deciding which emails to release raises questions about whether political considerations are playing a role in those decisions.

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Pence's use of personal email accounts for state business first came to light in March, when IndyStar obtained nearly 30 emails that showed Pence corresponding on homeland security and public safety issues. The state withheld an undisclosed number of additional emails because they were considered too sensitive for public release. Cybersecurity experts say the emails raise questions about whether sensitive information was adequately protected from hackers, given that personal accounts are typically less secure than government email accounts. In fact, Pence's AOL account was hacked in the summer of 2016. Open government advocates also expressed concerns about transparency because personal emails aren't necessarily captured on state servers that are searched in response to public records requests.

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Indiana's public access counselor recommends that public officials who use private accounts forward or copy state-related emails to their state accounts, so that they can be preserved and searched in response to public records requests.

There is no indication Pence took such steps.

On the day IndyStar disclosed Pence's use of personal email accounts for state business, his attorneys turned over 13 boxes of printed-out emails to the state and said additional emails would be forthcoming.

Pence has said he violated no Indiana laws. In March, for example, he said: "We had outside counsel review all of my previous email records to identify any that ever mentioned or referenced state business."

Talk about irony. Former Governor Pence used a personal email account to conduct public business and when compelled by the law to release the relevant emails, had a law firm run by one of his campaign's top fundraisers cull their totality while pinky-swearing they've indeed released all the relevant ones. Trust them, they'd never try to hide anything after taking 6 months to cough them up, right?

And to top it off, this particular account was successfully hacked in August of 2016.

As I said, ironic, isn't it when compared and contrasted to another person who's emails became a national scandal. But I'm sure the situations have very little in common but for appearances and operational similarities....

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-08-07 06:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Cool. Throw him in the same jail as Hillary. A two-fer.

#2 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-08-07 05:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

And the mouth breathing morons who support this ---- stain of an administration will hoot and holler when Trump brings up Hillary's emails.

You can't fix stupid.

#3 | Posted by 726 at 2017-08-08 08:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6


... Pence's attorneys are only providing emails they consider to be related to state business, but Lotter did not answer questions about how those determinations are being made. ...

This raises the same issue that I had with fmr Sec of State Clinton's use of a private email server.

FOIA requests are essentially useless because emails are made available at the discretion of the person (or his/her lawyers) that owns the account.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-08-08 09:40 AM | Reply

#4

Nailed it. I just want to see how outraged the right becomes over Pence's attorney's culling the emails and not turning all of them over like they demanded from Sec. Clinton. If he doesn't have anything to hide that shouldn't be a problem, right?

#5 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-08-08 09:46 AM | Reply


@#5 ... not turning all of them over ...

Well, Pres Trump could ask the Russians to provide the missing emails...

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-08-08 10:12 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Well, Pres Trump could ask the Russians to provide the missing emails...

Why the Russians? Just go to the NSA and fire up an XKEYSCORE search.

#7 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2017-08-08 11:06 AM | Reply

Lock Him Up, right?

#8 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-08-08 11:17 AM | Reply

Waiting for non stop coverage on Fox....

#9 | Posted by Bubba10 at 2017-08-08 11:29 AM | Reply

Clinton does it, it becomes a national scandal, and the FBI Director is on record as saying he thinks she did something wrong but won't press charges.

And the country then wonders why politicians aren't more careful about this kind of thing? Clinton can do it on a private server and have digital communications that impact the entire world with no punishment whatsoever and people can't understand why Pence wasn't chomping at the bit to comply in a timely manner? Seriously? When Powell was exposed, again...no punishment at all. Why would any politician care about using private communications if the worst thing that happens is the media has a lot of news fodder?

#10 | Posted by humtake at 2017-08-08 12:10 PM | Reply

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I just want to see how outraged the right becomes over Pence's attorney's culling the emails and not turning all of them over like they demanded from Sec. Clinton.

#5 | POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2017-08-08 09:46 AM | FLAG:

This is different because freedumb and jesus.

#11 | Posted by 726 at 2017-08-08 12:17 PM | Reply

Before you all wet your pants again read this from your must trusted news source, the Washington Post.
www.washingtonpost.com

#12 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-08-08 12:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This was also known before the election, but lock him up, right?

Tom Price had a private server too, iirc, and I believe it was even hacked.

#13 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-08-08 12:25 PM | Reply

The most shocking part of this story is the fact that AOL still exists.

#14 | Posted by RevDarko at 2017-08-08 12:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Clinton does it, it becomes a national scandal, and the FBI Director is on record as saying he thinks she did something wrong but won't press charges.
And the country then wonders why politicians aren't more careful about this kind of thing? Clinton can do it on a private server and have digital communications that impact the entire world with no punishment whatsoever and people can't understand why Pence wasn't chomping at the bit to comply in a timely manner? Seriously? When Powell was exposed, again...no punishment at all. Why would any politician care about using private communications if the worst thing that happens is the media has a lot of news fodder?

#10 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

It helped Clinton lose a national election. That's a good reason.

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-08-08 02:00 PM | Reply


@#7 ... Why the Russians? Just go to the NSA ....

Because Pres Trump seems to have a better relationship with the Russians than our Intelligence agencies.

#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-08-08 03:35 PM | Reply

Before you all wet your pants again read this from your must trusted news source, the Washington Post.
www.washingtonpost.com

#12 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

I love how its all "Pence says..." so its different. "Pence says" he is preserving emails consistent with Indiana law. "Pence says" it doesn't have any confidential information. "Pence says" blah blah blah. THEREFORE its all legal and legit.

#17 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-08-08 03:45 PM | Reply

I must have missed the tweet asking for Pence to be investigated. Trump isn't trying to politicize the DoJ is he?

#18 | Posted by bored at 2017-08-08 04:27 PM | Reply

Wonder if there are more details about the Carrier scam in there somewhere.

#19 | Posted by TedBaxter at 2017-08-08 04:57 PM | Reply

Gotta love it when Dem apologists desperately try to draw equivalencies where none exist.

#20 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-08-09 10:11 AM | Reply

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